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Lyrica (Pregablin)

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I am prescribed 600mg daily of this drug for GAD and the anti seziure properties but have a few concerns about long term use as it's not available in generics yet so the cost if uber high and I don't know anyone else who has long term experience with this substance as doctors are told not to prescribe it due to the high cost.
My psyc says there are no discontinuation symptoms when stopped but I call bullshit on that as it works on the Gaba sites so there will be some, I am fed up of being lied to by someone I am supposed to trust. Note I had a massive 2 hour seizure in rehab so think that if I have another it will be when I stop these.
Has anyone used this for periods of more than a year at the same sort of dose I am on and how were the w/d's? I am not afraid of a good ole cluck as came off a 13 year benzo, amphet and opiate habbit last year all at the same time so it would be a walk in the park in comparison (I hope).
Can anyone share some thoughts/experiences on this substance and how was it jumping off? Did you consider it worthwhile when taking it and would you take it again knowing what you know now? Any input much appreciated, thanks in advance trancepants!
 
Not available as a generic ? Check again. ;) Sri lanka do generic pregabalin, at £2.49 per blister of 10 75mg pills. It works perfectly well, and is literally cheaper than chips.

Fuck needlessly paying extortionate rip off rates to big greedy pharma for their patents and the Drs that make you wonder if they are on commission sometimes, give those sri lankan businesses your money instead. ;)

It is one of the few substances i have managed to avoid forming a dependecy on. I only take it occasionally, tolerance doubles overnight, literally. It was brilliant for a trapped nerve/muscle pain i had for a while. I also abuse it to potentiate the hypnotic effect of benzos, it has a massive effect on this, also as a stand alone substance it's relaxing and mood boosting.

If you got through the horrific w/ds of what you described above, pregabalin might be quite easy by comparison. As it has a simillar mode of action to benzos i would imagine that the discontinuation syndrome would be simillar to benzo cessation, and a gradual taper would probaby be the best way to do it. Yes your Dr is full of shit, Pregabalin has the same risk profile as benzos, in terms of potential for dependancy formation and discontinuation syndrome.
 
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The NHS pay for mine mate, it's not the sort of drug I would go out of my way to obtain and am only using it for legit reasons. I am still yet to find anyone who has been on 500mg daily for a year plus whom has come off of them. They are dangerously good at ramping up the effects of opiates and giving them proper legs but all Gaba drugs are in a way so that goes without saying I guess. I bet they would be really good for tapering off benzos with, if I had these to come off benzos last year I bet my seizure would of been avoided...
 
possibly, but by then you would have possibly developed a pregabalin dependency, as you would just have been replacing one GABA drug with another, and not really tacking the object of getting your GABA levels re-adjusting back to normal. When new anti depressants come out they can cost like £4,000 per year per patient, until the patent expires. Yet the Docs are usually very keen to prescribe wahatever new anti depressant happens to be flavour of the month at the time.
 
Yeah but would rather that than having the seizure I had, it triggered really bad psychosis and I have been diagnosed as skitzo -I was fine before I went to rehab and had that seizure. Lyrica costs the NHS £70 a box where as other meds along those lines which can be bought in generics cost £1-2. I don't want to carry on taking these if I am going to have to go through a benzo type cluck but don't have anyway of gauging the w/ds as yet to speak to a long term user who has jumped.
 
darkinthepark said:
My psyc says there are no discontinuation symptoms when stopped but I call bullshit on that as it works on the Gaba sites so there will be some, I am fed up of being lied to by someone I am supposed to trust.
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This is just the standard, stock "party line" whenever a new generation of drugs comes in to replace a previous one. In this case pregabalin and... what's it called? the other one, they're being hyped as being what benzos used to be when they were flavour of the month only with none of the problems of dependence and withdrawal that benzos themselves have. I'm pretty sure you are right to be suspicious and I'd expect standard GABA-type w/d if stopped cold turker without tapering. I've seen a few people mention w/d symptoms from discontinuing use but I've not really paid too much attention as I just plain didn't like 'em when I tried 'em. I'd insist on a taper when the time comes to stop if it were me.

Oh, and congrats on quitting three separate families of drugs at once last year. Fukkin OW! is all I can say. That and well done you - hope you're getting what you need from the pregas and good luck with quitting when the time comes. As you said, after that lil cluckfest last year it can only be easier cos a triple whammy like that has gotta be pretty damn extreme in the w/d stakes 8o
 
Remember when tramadol was touted as having 'low abuse potential'? That's only, what, ten years or so ago?

This Lyrica sounds right up my street. It comes highly recommended by babylonboy, whom I trust despite his dismissal of Ramones attire as outdated.

Hope it works for you!
 
It all started with heroin (or actually Heroin as it was branded back then) being sold as a "cure" for morphine addiction cos - as we all know - it's impossible to become addicted to heroin and there are ceratinly no w/d symptoms. You'd think folk - specifically doctors - would've spotted the running theme over the last century and a bit but apparently not 8)

And just to balance it out a bit an inject a lil reality (;)) I really don't get why anybody would take pregas recreationally cos it just ain't recreational as far as I can see. Either does nothing at all or makes you fall over (even if sat down 8)) and forget stuff. Which sounds kinda like fun in a be-benzo'd kinda way... but isn't even remotely. Least recreational recreational drug I've yet come across. But whatever floats ya boat and all that :)
 
It's weird, I went through a fair bit of pregabalin a few months back, and I can't really describe what the effects were, but I do miss it, which is odd. I suppose benzos are similar to that, I really liked flubromazpem, went through my bag pretty fucking sharpish, but I couldn't honestly say it was euphoric or anything, it just hit some spot that I can't quite put my finger on. Although, I can describe etizolam's effects, it fixes my bad neck for a start and also changes the way my skin feels, but I can't really describe flubro's effects, or lyrica's.

And I found the generic pregabalin totally inferior to branded Lyrica. But I don't know in what way.

I suppose I do suffer a bit of anxiety, so maybe I just enjoyed having that turned off.
 
Lyrica is a bonafide gem.....while it works. Intermittent use is best for recreation, but OP you sound like that isn't your approach.....but FWIW it is one of my fav "downers"....Or "upper, downer, all arounder" as it does a little bit of everything for me. Great anxiolytic effects, chatty, euphoric, drunken fucktard....one stop shopping!

That being said, was prescribed 600mg a day for a year and a half for neuropathic pain until my insurance cut changed....ugh. I've had many a benzo problem in the past, as well as a variety of GABA-B agonists, and pregabalin withdrawal was awful! Felt like a cross between opioid withdrawal and benzo withdrawal.....I spent about 5 days suffering, and then got on Gabapentin, stat, 2400mg a day. Stopped the WD cold. So, I don't know how long it lasts....

From reading around some people have no withdrawals and some people have it bloody awful for ages....I know, I know, same thing for every substance, YMMV and all that, but there does seem to be a huge variation in pregabalin/Gabapentin dependance....

Now whatever happened to that 4-methyl pregabalin? Where the fuck is it??!
 
10 times inferior ? Which is roughly the price difference. If the ingredient is 100 % pregabalin then it shouldnt matter if its branded or generic. Ive never tried the branded stuff, as much as i like it i dont think its worth £80 for a box of it. I might see if i can get just one blister of the branded stuff with my next order for comparison purpsoses.
 
It really shouldn't make a difference MDB but when I was on extended hiatus in India I sure to shit noticed the difference between the generic pregs and Lyrica.....same with benzos. To make matters even more confusing, there is also a shit ton of counterfeit brand name stuff in India! But those minor inconveniences were offset by the $2 10ml vials of ketamine. In fact India as a whole was offset by said vials! And real, quality opium...mmmmm. Had been off the skag for some time too, but couldn't help buying a gram or 20 of the lovely astonishingly pure uncut heroin coming over from Paki too.....mmmm.....luckily you could buy the .3mg buprenorphine ampules if ya asked around, so that month back on dope wasn't too awful to get away from..

I tell ya, everything OTC for the right price pharmacies in third world countries should be a first world necessity!
 
Shambles said:
This is just the standard, stock "party line" whenever a new generation of drugs comes in to replace a previous one. In this case pregabalin and... what's it called? the other one, they're being hyped as being what benzos used to be when they were flavour of the month only with none of the problems of dependence and withdrawal that benzos themselves have. I'm pretty sure you are right to be suspicious and I'd expect standard GABA-type w/d if stopped cold turker without tapering. I've seen a few people mention w/d symptoms from discontinuing use but I've not really paid too much attention as I just plain didn't like 'em when I tried 'em. I'd insist on a taper when the time comes to stop if it were me.

Oh, and congrats on quitting three separate families of drugs at once last year. Fukkin OW! is all I can say. That and well done you - hope you're getting what you need from the pregas and good luck with quitting when the time comes. As you said, after that lil cluckfest last year it can only be easier cos a triple whammy like that has gotta be pretty damn extreme in the w/d stakes 8o
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indeed. heroin was the non addictive opium and methadone the non addictive heroin. "first they gives it ya for free, then they starts to charge ya for it once yer 'ooked"
 
yo M i need to tallk to you bout this i can't type cos i burnt me hand i'll hit you uop on uyer lline later mate i was cgiven 100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 300mg gapapetins by pain clinic went insane !¬¬¬
 
Have you used pregabalin before brimz ? It does work wonders for nueropathic pain. Tolerance is a bitch with it though, im not sure if thats just if your abusing it for the recreational effects, and it might not be such an issue if you are using it for pain relief, i dunno. It very strongly potentiates benzos too.
 
I'm on it.

Yeah it works alright. But nothing special for my back pain.

It deffo has wd, Drs should know that by now. My GP and consultant know for sure.

Recreational use is pretty shit,
 
i gave em all back to my gp n kept m,y oxy n all me benzo's they put bme oin a dangerous position to say the lerast mate these were avtuall Gapa[pentin 300mg not pregab !
 
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