General Heroin Discussion #18 - v. Stupidity ain't no badge of honor

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tomatalli said:
I was on a different site today that talks about price and stamps, the shit from NYC is 2-2.5x the price I pay in Hartford. Is it that much fatter than shit from where I go or is it that much better? What's the deal with it costing so much more
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Verso copped in Connecticut and weighed his bags, and the ones from NYC that I was getting were over twice the weight, so it all works out. It seemed to be that the bigger, wellknown stamps were more expensive here especially if they were sold by black people since they were buying them from their source and selling them for more. I've gotten those same big bags for less money though when I went to some Spanish dudes that had decent operations where they bagged it themselves and had weight, so it all depends.

Re: zneg- I havent heard from him in a while. I chilled with him twice but as of a year ago I stopped being able to get ahold of him. I tried calling him this time last year as I was heading to Brooklyn for the day but he didn't get back to me. Then a few weeks later I heard back from him and he had a lot going on, and he was just wrapped up in that for a while and wasn't able to log on here that often so left staff.
 
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I routinely paid the same price in CT as I do in NYC. I never noticed them being any more expensive in CT. I mean, I never copped in Hartford, mostly just Waterbury.. but the bags I got from a few different sources where a little smaller than NY bags, but where still around the same price.

Maybe ya' gotta find better connections, tomatalli. I heard stories from people I know in CT that always said Hartford was really cheap. But, who knows. They are big cities. Ha. There are people in NY paying way too much for dope too. Happens.
 
oldhippytony said:
Tomatalli wrote: "I 100% new [knew] what they were asking because they straight up told me that I needed to bring in papers proving I had been to a detox within the last year, mine was 17 months ago. I was trying to get admitted into methadone maintenance"

Toma- Per Mass. State regulations 164.070 the program must provide written admissions eligibility criteria and procedures to prospective clients upon application for services. This is to determine if the level of care that the program offers is suitable to meet your needs.

Did you receive a copy of the program’s admissions eligibility criteria and procedures? If so, does it say that for the purpose of entry into their MAINTENANCE program, a prospective client must have attempted formal DETOXIFICATION services within the past year?

Mr. Scag- I grew up in Central New York, a couple hundred miles from the Big Apple.
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I found a new place


dsd said:
Wow, that's f****d up, you can't get 'done without having done a detox previously. WHY?

I'm in the UK and tens, twentys etc of gear always come in a rizla(cigarette paper) wrapped in cling film. Easy to swallow or hold in mouth if shit happens. But your USA 'stamp' bags don't look like something you can swallow especially these brick/ bundle deals . Can they be swallowed?
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I've had to swallow 7 bags before it didn't feel good. I found a new place I can go to without having gone to a detox recently
Mr.Scagnattie said:
I routinely paid the same price in CT as I do in NYC. I never noticed them being any more expensive in CT. I mean, I never copped in Hartford, mostly just Waterbury.. but the bags I got from a few different sources where a little smaller than NY bags, but where still around the same price.

Maybe ya' gotta find better connections, tomatalli. I heard stories from people I know in CT that always said Hartford was really cheap. But, who knows. They are big cities. Ha. There are people in NY paying way too much for dope too. Happens.
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U miss understood I'm saying New York is 2-2.5 times more expensive than what I pay I get shit and cheap member I posted the price on here before by accident and some dude said if I was getting it that cheap I should sell it lol. Especially when I buy in bulk and I get a bundle for free essentially it's almost too cheap and that's why my tolerance sky rockets
 
^ I don't think that he was complaining about his price. He was just asking if we pay more in NY and if the bags are fatter here to justify the higher prices. But yea the only sources that I went through that were more expensive (just meaning they didn't give deals on bundles but bag prices were the same) had fat bags that were fire. If that wasn't the case then people would just go elsewhere.

One of the kids in detox was getting the same bags in the same area and was getting better deals on bundles, so it was just my source that wasn't cutting any deals. And I had a Spanish dude with fat bags (I'm talking dope over the first fold and it weighed just over .1 per bag so def fat) that were fire and he was actually my cheapest source, so it's all in who you know.

Edit: he beat me to it with clarifying what he meant.
 
Tommyboy said:
^ I don't think that he was complaining about his price. He was just asking if we pay more in NY and if the bags are fatter here to justify the higher prices. But yea the only sources that I went through that were more expensive (just meaning they didn't give deals on bundles but bag prices were the same) had fat bags that were fire. If that wasn't the case then people would just go elsewhere.

One of the kids in detox was getting the same bags in the same area and was getting better deals on bundles, so it was just my source that wasn't cutting any deals. And I had a Spanish dude with fat bags (I'm talking dope over the first fold and it weighed just over .1 per bag so def fat) that were fire and he was actually my cheapest source, so it's all in who you know.

Edit: he beat me to it with clarifying what he meant.
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Are you talkin bout the normal size bags or the triple wide bags that are up to the first fold, if it's the triple wide that are up to the first fold that's insane and apparently I'm doin it wrong
 
Has anyone heard of people getting raw in CT? In heroin town connecticut (look it up) I got half grams from someone I knew which were over priced and I realized it wasn't worth the price once I got good connects in Hartford for cheap bundles. None of my boys even the ones who have been in te game for years longer than I have ever gotten raw. I'm sure it's out there, I really wish I could find grams and higher up but I'm 100% sure that's not the type of dealer that just walks up to your car when ur parked somewhere and introduces them selves lol.
 
tomatalli said:
Are you talkin bout the normal size bags or the triple wide bags that are up to the first fold, if it's the triple wide that are up to the first fold that's insane and apparently I'm doin it wrong
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People from NJ usually refer to them as the 'wider NY bags' and yes, that's what I'm referring to. I've got pics of those bags in the old dope threads from like Oct 2011. I was laughing because when we copped from the guy one night he jokingly said to my boy 'man, I should be charging X for these bundles' and the price he said was still cheaper than most other sources. The other sources with those same bags filled just below the first fold are the ones that are typically more expensive, so when you see people listing the prices you saw that's why.

Edit: Found them:
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...o-keyboard?p=10052135&viewfull=1#post10052135
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...o-keyboard?p=10181327&viewfull=1#post10181327

It's hard to tell how wide the bag is from the pic, but it's def the wider kind. You can tell that the line is nice and fat too.

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...o-keyboard?p=10207215&viewfull=1#post10207215
These bags were fat, I think they weighed in at 107mg. These were the more expensive ones since there were no deals on the bundles, but as you can see they are huge. The pics of my stuff were cheaper, and of course the pic I had of the dope going over into the second fold was removed. But yea, these were all from Bushwick, Brooklyn.
 
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Tommyboy said:
People from NJ usually refer to them as the 'wider NY bags' and yes, that's what I'm referring to. I've got pics of those bags in the old dope threads from like Oct 2011. I was laughing because when we copped from the guy one night he jokingly said to my boy 'man, I should be charging X for these bundles' and the price he said was still cheaper than most other sources. The other sources with those same bags filled just below the first fold are the ones that are typically more expensive, so when you see people listing the prices you saw that's why.
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Ahh ok cus in CT I've gotten 3 different size bags so. One really thin, normal bags, then the triple wides. Yeah I would deff pay 2-2.5x the price for those it's just like buying 2-2.5 bundles anyway


Gotta question for you guys, I'm snorting 10-12 bags to get a nod goin up sometimes 8-9 if it's fire fire. How much should I shoot up to get the same high goin on? 5?
 
tomatalli said:
Ahh ok cus in CT I've gotten 3 different size bags so. One really thin, normal bags, then the triple wides. Yeah I would deff pay 2-2.5x the price for those it's just like buying 2-2.5 bundles anyway


Gotta question for you guys, I'm snorting 10-12 bags to get a nod goin up sometimes 8-9 if it's fire fire. How much should I shoot up to get the same high goin on? 5?
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No way. Don't start with 5. That's way too much to IV first time, even snorting 10 bags. Start with 2, man. Honestly. It is much stronger that way. You can always do more but start low to gauge how it effects you IV'ed.

And about the bag prices, yeah I don't know how much the person you talked to said they were paying in NY for bags (maybe they where getting shitty deals), but everyone I know, including myself, pays the same price for NYC buns as in CT, if anything the CT bags are more expensive sometimes. Only place that is significantly cheaper is NJ. Otherwise it's about the same, IME.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
No way. Don't start with 5. That's way too much to IV first time, even snorting 10 bags. Start with 2, man. Honestly. It is much stronger that way. You can always do more but start low to gauge how it effects you IV'ed.

And about the bag prices, yeah I don't know how much the person you talked to said they were paying in NY for bags (maybe they where getting shitty deals), but everyone I know, including myself, pays the same price for NYC buns as in CT, if anything the CT bags are more expensive sometimes. Only place that is significantly cheaper is NJ. Otherwise it's about the same, IME.
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Brotha in Hartford we don't get the same bags as up toward waturbury and shit they're half the price if not less I went to a site and it talks about price and bags that are good mainly people from NYC and NJ


Anyone have a response for my question about raw in CT
 
tomatalli said:
Ahh ok cus in CT I've gotten 3 different size bags so. One really thin, normal bags, then the triple wides. Yeah I would deff pay 2-2.5x the price for those it's just like buying 2-2.5 bundles anyway


Gotta question for you guys, I'm snorting 10-12 bags to get a nod goin up sometimes 8-9 if it's fire fire. How much should I shoot up to get the same high goin on? 5?
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Dude, please think long and hard before making the switch. Just look at how much worse your habit has gotten in the last 2 months. If you start shooting up I guarantee that you will be banging the same amount that you are snorting in a months time. At first you will start with 2 bag shots, probably a few times a day. Then it's 3 bag shots twice a day, and it's only a few more bags per shot or one more shot a day before you are doing the same amount of dope as you are now. The sickness comes on a lot quicker when you start banging it a lot, so you do it more often which makes it not worth it if you think you will be saving money by making the switch.

If you do then start with a 2 bagger. I never really go higher than that other then when I've done a 3 bagger on 'special occasions.' That's how you can keep your tolerance down too. Just do a few bags to get a small buzz and keep the sick away the majority of the time, and then do more 1-2 days a week to get your real high. To be safer just do a 2 bagger (always start with 1 if it's a new batch) and then do a shot or two more once you gauge how it's hitting you.
 
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tomatalli said:
I'm gonna buy micron filters and syringes online, what g should I get? 18?
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29 gauge is the most popular, but that's a little wide for me so I go 30, and even 31 sometimes. The higher the number the thinner the pin. Next is length. 1/2 inch is the most popular but I go with 5/16th which looks tiny but is perfect for being able to go all the way in with it without piecing through the other end of the vein, and since you are all the way in you get better leverage since you don't have to balance how far in you are holding it like you have to with 1/2 inch which are easy to poke through the other end with or just slip out in general. As for the capacity, I go with 1/2cc, but 1cc is fine too but a bit big to handle when you have to get to the back of the plunger to push down.
 
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This. I like 30 or 31G short tips, (8mm/ 5/16") syringes. But that's because I have to go in the small veins in my hand and shit now. When I was hitting the larger veins in my forearm and bicep, I was using 29G long tips (12.7mm/ 1/2") But, I actually think the short-tips are better because you can put them in right to the hilt of the plastic, making it easier to stay in and prevent slipping out as in the case of the long tip 1/2" rigs.
 
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Yeah 18's are giant. That's closer to the needles they use to draw blood in the hospital. Those things are like a hole punch. If you use those everyday to IV, you'll destroy all your veins within a couple years.
 
I think I'm gonna go with 30g and I'm gonna start in my arm near my elbow and forearm. Sorry tommyboy my mind is set bro I'm buying them the next pay day.
 
Appreciate the words dawg, I'll let u guys know how it goes. Kinda messed up but I'm so excited to get really high snorting isn't doin it for me anymore
 
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