Rethinking schizophrenia: Taming demons without drugs

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Rethinking schizophrenia: Taming demons without drugs

Antipsychotic drugs may do more harm than good. The tide is turning towards gentler methods, from talking therapies to brain training

"I WAS trembling all the time. I couldn't shave. I couldn't wash. I was filthy," says Peter Bullimore. "I had become the archetypal schizophrenic. People would write on my windows: 'Schizo out' and I had one member of the public slash my face."

Today, that period of Bullimore's life is long behind him. He runs a mental health training consultancy in Sheffield, UK, and travels the world giving lectures on the subject.

You might think that Bullimore's turnaround is thanks to a wonder drug that has brought his schizophrenia under control. On the contrary: it was the side effects of his medication that had brought him so low. Instead, he opted for a seemingly radical course of action – he was slowly weaned off his medications and started a new type of therapy.

Bullimore's experience may be an extreme case, but we have long known that the drugs used to treat schizophrenia are very far from ideal. The downsides have always been seen as a necessary price to pay for relief from the condition's devastating symptoms, but now that idea is being called into question. Not only are the side effects of these drugs worse than we thought; the benefits are also smaller. Although people need to be taken off their drugs slowly and carefully to avoid a relapse, it looks as though outcomes are better in the long run if medication is kept to a minimum.

Now, there is growing interest in less damaging ways of helping people with the condition, in particular talking therapies, which research published in The Lancet today suggests can be just as effective as medication. Other alternatives include using virtual reality and special forms of brain training. "People are starting to think differently about schizophrenia," says Max Birchwood, a psychologist at the University of Warwick in the UK. "Attitudes are definitely changing."

Since it was first described by European psychiatrists in the late 19th century, schizophrenia has often been seen as the most fearsome of all mental illnesses. Those affected usually start behaving oddly in their teens or 20s: hearing voices or seeing things that aren't there, often coupled with paranoid delusions, such as that members of their family want to kill them. These periods of psychosis may come and go unpredictably over the years, and they can be life-wrecking; 1 in 10 people with schizophrenia commits suicide.

Bullimore was 29 when it first hit. Ostensibly his life was on track: he ran a manufacturing business and was married with three children. But during a period of stress and overwork, things started to go badly wrong. He became convinced that cars were following him, and heard voices calling him a pervert. He saw the horror-film character Freddy Krueger looking back at him from mirrors. "It was a very frightening time," he says.

After a particularly terrifying hallucination one night, the next day, Bullimore smashed his business partner over the head with a telephone, then went home and curled up in a chair. "I stopped there for three weeks," he says. "All the voices were really, really bad."

The causes of schizophrenia are frustratingly mysterious. A long-standing theory is that the strange symptoms stem from a person's inability to distinguish between their own thought processesMovie Camera and inputs from the outside world. The imagined voices often say things the person could plausibly be thinking themselves, for instance. But that doesn't so neatly explain the hallucinations and delusions, nor the memory and concentration difficulties that often come with schizophrenia.

Many genes that raise the risk of schizophrenia have been discovered, most of which seem to affect brain development or functioning – suggesting that the condition arises when something goes wrong with the brain's wiring as it develops and matures during adolescence. The prevailing theory is that the problems lie in neural networks that use the brain chemical dopamine, in part because drugs such as LSD and amphetamines, which can cause symptoms of psychosis, are known to raise dopamine levels.

Until the 1950s, there was little that doctors could do for someone like Bullimore, other than lock them up in an asylum and sedate them with strong tranquillisers called barbiturates. But then a new class of drugs was developed that proved helpful in treating people in the grip of acute psychosis. These antipsychotics, as they became known, could calm people who were distressed or shouting, without knocking them out like tranquilizers did. The drugs were found to block dopamine signalling, bolstering the theory that overactivity of these pathways caused schizophrenia.

As wider use of antipsychotics allowed people with schizophrenia to live in the community rather than a psychiatric hospital, they are often credited with bringing an end to the often inhumane asylums. But right from the start these drugs were known to have unpleasant side effects.

Continued here http://www.newscientist.com/article...taming-demons-without-drugs.html#.UvQ5YfldVmk
 
I read the whole article. Hope more studies confirm the brain training scheme and they can find a way to circumvent acute symptoms through genetic tests of high risk individuals.
 
I think schizophrenia is just a mid step in the evolution of our brains.. i think it is the beginning of the ability of our conscious and subconscious being able to communicate clearly. if you look a the voices that are commonly heard by schizophrenics they seem to be representing specific emotions. I think as this progresses through time it will form a human where the conscious has merged with the unconscious. I always think of a time where i got a head injury an was able to remember every phone number i had ever dialed or heard with out hesitation for the doctors who were looking for contacts. I think they were amused and a friend I was with that had known me for years was there.. he said I spit out hundreds of phone numbers for my entire family and friends.. so this information is locked in the unconscious.. imagine if we had access to it. This is an interesting piece on a woman that has been able to work with her voices and they gave her the answers to on of her doctoral exams..

Is It Possible To Live With The Voices In Your Head? Eleanor Longden
 
very interesting article. but anything that advocates getting rid of psych meds to deal with severe mental illness makes me a little nervous. i guess it worked well for this guy, but I'm severely bipolar and after years of fighting doctors trying to give me pills, i've finally found a med combo that works for me - - but now I'm 34, all my friends have high-power jobs or moved or whatever, I'm a bit old to try to attempt college again, I've scared away every relationship I've ever had, and I have no marketable skills. Hooray. That's an after-school special for you.
 
hard to make an absolute rule, but most people do agree that for some people (generally people diagnosed with a psychotic/delusional disorder by a competent physician), anti-psychotics are the most effective course of treatment and, for those people, necessary for the establishment/maintenance of a life free of hospitalizations, possible entanglement with law enforcement, and other consequences of living the life of an untreated psychotic disorder.
Anti-psychotics have a really bad reputation, even with educated people, but the truth of the matter (and I speak from experience, having been treated with various anti-psychotics, mood stabilizers, anxiolytics, etc. for most of my life, having had my own bouts of psychotic illness when I've "gone off" my meds) is that they aren't that different from any other medication used to treat any other human illness. Cancer, HIV, acne, and bipolar disorder with psychotic features... Not-stupid people take the appropriate medication for their ailment, if they aren't part of some wackjob religion that chooses prayer over hospitals. (Sorry, if I offended any of those religious people. You aren't nuts. Yeah. Not nuts.)
 
A natural treatment for psychosis follows:

Psychosis:
For some people suffering from psychosis, (hallucinations, and/or delusional beliefs) the following may well help reduce, or even in some cases, completely eliminate the need for antipsychotics, with their known risks and sometimes unpredictable side effects, but don't expect overnight results; begin the program, preferably maintaining your current medication regime for 6 weeks, and only then consider reducing their amount by around 10% weekly. Google: "TheRoadBack; weaning off antipsychotics"

Take 9 Omega 3 fish oil supplements, (high in E.P.A.) or the recommended dose of a high quality of fish, or krill oil daily, like Carlsons, or Melrose: (certified free of mercury) it is best if consumed with an antioxidant, such as an orange, or its FRESHLY SQUEEZED juice. If vitamin E is added, it should be certified as being 100% from natural sources, or it may be synthetic: avoid it! Basically, if a vitamin supplement shows dl, which is the acronym for dextro-levo, it contains both isomers, and is therefore synthetic in origin.
Females may benefit by balancing the DHA, & EPA versions of Omega 3 in fish, or krill** oil with ALA flaxseed oil Omega 3, or at least one heaped tablespoonful of ground flaxseed, daily. Vegetarians: Google: "Omega 3; vegetable; supplies" and use with flaxseed.

Dr Mercola advises: in the winter months, if not getting sufficient daily exposure to strong light, go to a doctor and ask for a 25(OH)D, also called 25-hydroxyvitamin D, blood test. When you get the results, don’t follow the typical “normal” reference range, as these are too low. The OPTIMAL value that you’re looking for is 45-52 ng/ml (115-128 nmol/l)". The company which tests your levels has to be one of those using the correct form of test, and this topic is addressed via the searchbar at Mercola - "vitamin D3; testing". 59% of Americans are deficient in the extremely important vitamin D3, with their lowest levels occurring in late winter, and early spring. Canadians get even less sunlight exposure. People with the lowest levels are 11 times more likely to suffer depression (psychosis can occur with major depression).

Dr. Cannell advises that the co-factors most often deficient in the American diet, and necessary to optimise its absorption, and utilisation are magnesium, zinc, boron, and
vitamin K2 ( Google: mercola /2011/03/26/the-delicate-dance-between-vitamins-d-and-k
Google supplies, or Mercola have supplies of the considerably more bioactive Menaquinone-7 variety of vitamin K2). Otherwise, I recommend using either health food/vitamin stores, or Googling: " Menaquinone-7; variety of vitamin K2; supplies" rather than risking any old, or substandard products at supermarkets, or even on pharmacy shelves.
The Omega 3 and vitamin D3 will act as preventatives for a wide variety of disorders and diseases, both physical and psychological, as well as boosting your immune system, and are 2 that most people in Western countries are deficient in, so I suggest that you recommend them to others as well. The best dietary source of vitamin K2 is natto (Only FERMENTED soy products, like natto are safe for females).

10,000iu/daily is generally regarded as safe daily upper limit for vitamin D3, although some people may need 3 times as much, and it is worth checking AFTER you have been using effective strength supplements for 3 months to make sure you have achieved as safe level according to Dr Mercola's suggestions. Test every 6 months in late winter, and late summer. Children should take at least 2,000 IU for every 25 pounds of body weight; test again in 6 - 8 weeks, and if normalised, reduce to 1,000 IU for every 25 pounds of body weight. Some need considerably more, or less.

"A study from the Orygen Research Centre in Melbourne suggests that omega-3 fatty acids could also help delay or prevent the onset of schizophrenia. The researchers enlisted 81 'high risk' young people aged 13 to 24 who had previously suffered brief hallucinations or delusions and gave half of them capsules of fish oil while the other half received fish-tasting dummy subtitute. One year on, only three percent of those on fish oil had developed schizophrenia compared to 28 percent from those on the substitute, but the result has not yet been published in a peer reviewed journal.[13]"
At wikipedia: "oilofpisces + depression"

Google: "niacin + psychosis".

Begin using 50 mg of niacin / vitamin B3 daily, to get your body accustomed to it, for at least a few days, before beginning to increase the dosage to 100 mg. Read the doctoryourself website on Hoffer about the dosage, and decide if you want to adopt the conservative approach, above, or start at 100 mg, three times daily, which is safe, and works quicker, but may well cause more skin flushing.

Take 3,000 mg of vitamin C daily. I am aware of advice, however, that for it to be utilised, synthetic vitamin C needs to be taken with some of the natural form, (such as the FRESHLY SQUEEZED juice of an orange) and / or bioflavonoids.

Optimise vitamin D levels, and take omega 3, niacin, & vitamin C.

If supplementing, (the non preferred method, according to Dr John Cannell at the vitaminDcouncil ) use only vitamin D3.
 
^And food effects how we function. A full work-up should be done on people with mental (or any) disorders, to see what their diet is like, to see if there are any interactions, to see if there are any sensitivities that the person has to... everything they might be consuming.

Also, things in the environment should be taken into account. Fragrance for instance could effect mood negatively, without the person knowing it. Try switching to unscented everything. Clear the head. Breath fresh air. You have no idea how things effect you, until you remove them, and try them later, isolated.

I think schizophrenia is just a mid step in the evolution of our brains.. i think it is the beginning of the ability of our conscious and subconscious being able to communicate clearly. if you look a the voices that are commonly heard by schizophrenics they seem to be representing specific emotions. I think as this progresses through time it will form a human where the conscious has merged with the unconscious. I always think of a time where i got a head injury an was able to remember every phone number i had ever dialed or heard with out hesitation for the doctors who were looking for contacts. I think they were amused and a friend I was with that had known me for years was there.. he said I spit out hundreds of phone numbers for my entire family and friends.. so this information is locked in the unconscious.. imagine if we had access to it. This is an interesting piece on a woman that has been able to work with her voices and they gave her the answers to on of her doctoral exams..

Is It Possible To Live With The Voices In Your Head? Eleanor Longden

Thats amazing...
 
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very interesting article. but anything that advocates getting rid of psych meds to deal with severe mental illness makes me a little nervous. i guess it worked well for this guy, but I'm severely bipolar and after years of fighting doctors trying to give me pills, i've finally found a med combo that works for me - - but now I'm 34, all my friends have high-power jobs or moved or whatever, I'm a bit old to try to attempt college again, I've scared away every relationship I've ever had, and I have no marketable skills. Hooray. That's an after-school special for you.
I try not to make assumptions about what others experience. I also had a late start in life and I think there is a way to get past it without medication. Have you had any success finding the source of these thoughts yourself?
 
Someone close to me (and that really is the case, I'm not attempting to use any form of the swim thing), has experienced what I'll call medication induced schizophrenia. From one of the meds mentioned that is supposed to help. Barbituates. Butalbital to be exact.

When large amounts of barbs are taken by this person, they hear voices. For about a year, they swore their neighbors were stealing their mail, and talking about them. The person spent hours w their ear against the wall "listening" to the neighbors talk about their personal information, things they were planning to do w it, etc. The person even had their family convinced (and me) this was true. And caused their family to be cold to the neighbors, as they had no reason to doubt it was truth. The individual suddenly realized that they were hearing voices, and it really wasn't happening. I'n not exactly sure how the realization was come to. They told me this one day, nearly in tears.

I asked what the voices sounded like, and the individual told me, "like someone is right next to you speaking normally". That had to be horrible. And I can imagine the realization, was frightening and devestating. This person has a form of autism, a form that is high functioning. I don't know if one has to do w the other...just mentioning this in case anyone happens to read this and has some knowledge or experience w it.

This only happened when taking barbituates in high amounts. They no longer take barbituates in large amounts and no voices since have been heard. What I'm wondering, is if the person has schizophrenia...and it's going to end up happening eventually whether they take large amounts of barbituates or not. Or if it's possible to have a reaction to meds that cause "medication induced schizophrenia".

I once had dealt w a woman dx'd w paranoid schizophrenia, that believed I was saying bad things about her to her boyfriend, when we literally, were talking about the weather, t.v. shows we liked, etc. about two feet away. She had badgered me terribly, and was defaming me w untrue things that could be very damaging to my career at that time, that I had to cut the relationship. I pretended I didn't hear her when she was badgering me i.e. following me everywhere, then telling anyone that would listen delusional things, that she had actually did, and was doing but said I was. I didn't want to feed into it. I tried explaining that what she was "hearing" was simply not happening. Of course, that didn't work... She eventually apologized to me. But, I could see it would be nearly impossible to have a relationship w her, and dangerous to me, as she had tendencies to become combative physically...and how can you explain to a paranoid schizophrenic that they're perception is off completely when what they hear is so real to them? I wish it could've been different. I felt so badly, and guilty for having to cut the relationship due to something she couldn't help...

Very intersting read neversickanymore...and really wonderful that the woman on the tape managed to overcome such an upsetting, frightening situation. I felt horrible reading about how the man couldn't shave or wash, and people wrote things on his window. Very cruel, and hurtful. Also great that he too overcame his situation.
 
Defanged, I don't believe it's too late for you to go back to school...there are ppl much older than you that begin...then complete their degree. Don't throw in the towel. <3
 
Antipsychotics are necessary for some conditions and people.

They do not have any therapeutic effect. All they do is reduce behaviour and thought, essentially disabling the person to a degree depending on the dose. Their action in the brain is simply not specific enough. The are a crude and heavy implement that reduces symptoms of mental illness by reducing cognition in general alongside with muscle tone. They can sedate a violent person with racing thoughts but to use them for maintainence is simply to fall for a ploy to sell pharmaceuticals based on the fear of a patient acting out later. It is too much of a sacrifice to be considered for long-term treatment. All neuroleptics cause nerve damage eventually leading to a movement disorder called tardive dyskinesia.
 
"Antipsychotic drugs are the main type of treatment for people with schizophrenia, but they can cause serious side effects. Indeed, the investigators found that patients who took antipsychotic drugs had more negative side effects than those who took a placebo, including movement disorders (16 percent versus 9 percent), sedation (13 percent versus 9 percent), and weight gain (10 percent versus 6 percent)....
"'Antipsychotic maintenance treatment substantially reduces relapse risk in all patients with schizophrenia for up to 2 years of follow-up,' Stefan Leucht from the Technical University of Munich, and colleagues, said in a journal news release 'The effect was robust in important subgroups such as patients who had only one episode, those in remission,' he added."
Antipsychotics Do Help Many With Schizophrenia - More than 50 years of data shows the drugs cut relapse rates, although side effects common, May. 3, 2012
 
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What I'm wondering, is if the person has schizophrenia...and it's going to end up happening eventually whether they take large amounts of barbituates or not. Or if it's possible to have a reaction to meds that cause "medication induced schizophrenia".
There are a number of steps to diagnose the person and it takes quite a lot of information to diagnose either of those conditions.

Substance induced psychosis does not mean you have schizophrenia, but having schizophrenia and taking drugs can certainly trigger the related symptoms. Whether it is relapse or a first episode.

This relationship is often misunderstood. For example, in this study the prevalence of alcohol induced psychotic disorder (AIPD) in the general population was 0.5%. This is similar to the prevalence of schizophrenia in the general population of 0.6%. What some have failed to realize is this population of AIPD, with abnormal experiences similar to those of schizophrenics, is in addition to schizophrenics, not merely some overlapping misdiagnosed or "untriggered" population of schizophrenics.

The fact there is a completely different classification for the two diseases and that this alcohol use did not cause the group to have permanent schizophrenia, says it all. In other words, the amount of people among the general population experiencing psychotic symptoms, theoretically, due to schizophrenia and AIPD would be 1.1% ~ 3 million people.

For AIPD brief episodes would not be counted, neither would episodes outside a certain period of use (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders). If a person has substance issues, I would guess they are fortunate. In either case it can be extraordinarily debilitating, owing to the death of 37% of AIPD diagnosed individuals in an 8 year follow-up; and in a similar study's 11 year follow-up of schizophrenics, 14% had died, fourfold higher than in the age-matched general population; with that groups most common cause of death being suicide.
 
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pmoseman, thank you for your response. It's difficult to say, I suppose, without some looking into whether this person is schizophrenic. From witnessing schizophrenia, it is a devestating illness.
 
I think schizophrenia is just a mid step in the evolution of our brains.. i think it is the beginning of the ability of our conscious and subconscious being able to communicate clearly. if you look a the voices that are commonly heard by schizophrenics they seem to be representing specific emotions. I think as this progresses through time it will form a human where the conscious has merged with the unconscious. I always think of a time where i got a head injury an was able to remember every phone number i had ever dialed or heard with out hesitation for the doctors who were looking for contacts. I think they were amused and a friend I was with that had known me for years was there.. he said I spit out hundreds of phone numbers for my entire family and friends.. so this information is locked in the unconscious.. imagine if we had access to it. This is an interesting piece on a woman that has been able to work with her voices and they gave her the answers to on of her doctoral exams..

Is It Possible To Live With The Voices In Your Head? Eleanor Longden

I agree. That's a fascinating story about the phone numbers.
 
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