17th Issue General Heroin Discussion v. Perfect Day

[Effect]

Finally managed to score myself a little supply of benzos for Adderall comedowns. Although I didn't get that many in some people's eyes, it's more than I usually have on hand.

I got myself:
(2) 2mg Alprazolam
(6) 2mg Alprazolam XR (Anyone have any experience with these or know how the time release works?)
(6) 5mg diazepam
(1) 10mg diazepam

I just decided to take one of the alprazolam 2MG bars and to get on topic with the thread, am about to cop a .3 bag of some good dope that my neighbor has right now. Gonna take it easy though cause I took the bar. Post back in 15 minutes and let you guys know how I'm feeling.

 

[ohshea]

Ok, I figured that as it would be the only sensible way to smoke powder (if there is such thing). I wouldn't mind trying smoking heroin though, preferably just being able to get my hands on some tar so it'd be a much easier process. I'm sure there are people who sprinkle it on boys and lace joints/blunts with it. I never done it or seen it done, but use to do that with coke quite often back in the day.

Sprinkling heroin on a joint like coke will render it useless, direct flame destroys it. Which probably explains why youve never seen it done.

 

[BlueHues]

^If you throw a big enough chunk of tar on top of Some weed, you'll get something off of it, but that pretty much only applies to people who don't already have an IV habit. When I lived in WA state, I saw a few different people melt crack and tar together and smoke it through a glass straight a shooter, but that was mostly crack heads just looking to change things up.

For some reason, there's a lot of potheads out there that are determined to smoke every drug they come across!

Man, tar is so cheap in WA, and its not too far from Alaska, hmmmm. Of course I've never tried driving through Canada to Alaska before...With my luck it would end badly!

 

[RTrain]

Sprinkling heroin on a joint like coke will render it useless, direct flame destroys it. Which probably explains why youve never seen it done.

Yeah I know that, if I saw it done I would probably say the same thing. I wouldn't and don't think its reasonable to smoke powder at all, regardless the method. Just saying people probably do it. People do a lot of stupid things with drugs.

 

[Jabberwocky]

mentioned it in the bupe thread so I'll mention here.. I rode the drop train last night.

took 8MG bupe in the AM; was at a gas station and ran into some girl I knew dealt w/ shiz. she said oh I have "blah blah" now. so I gave her 100 for a bundle and 2 bupe for the favor. then she walks away. I said, "what did you drop the bag". she goes, "no, I have to go pick up". so she gets back, throws me the bundle and say, "can I borrow 5 bucks for gas", which I gave her for the favor.

anyway, her and I ended up splitting the 2 G's we got, prob for about 180 but I threw in 100 and she didnt want me on the trip to pick up; so we just sniffed rather than shoot. she never shot anyway and I'd rather just sniff because I dont plan on going back on this, but I DID SLIP UP! it was the last few weeks on bupe I cut from 12-6MG too fast and fucked up. going back to 8MG in the morning.

did this dope last night around 830 and just did my first bupe dosage of 4MG 15 minutes ago.

damn girls, dude. you run into them and they fuck up your life, ha.

 

[Jabberwocky]

its funny cuz I kinda went against all I said about staying on a higher dosage and being safe but decided to shrink quick and hopefully be ale to get off bupe as a whole... well guess what? I was wrong. so be in no rush to drop that bupe if it has killed your cravings, need, feelings toward the drug .

who knows, tho. even if I was on 16MG I just happen to run into her and she offers; so I could have been dope free for 25yrs and got into that and said yes. its part of WHY I TRY AND STAY away from all the bad people on the earth.

 

[axl blaze]

it's ok man, we all fuck up. you're on the right track and that's all that matters is the NOW

on the other hand - I feel bad for you ECP users who can't enjoy a good smoke session. the high is a lot more cerebral and heady, almost like good marijuana. and if it's good quality it tastes real nice (if it's bad it just tastes like burning LOL)

 

[Jabberwocky]

I was always a shooter anyway; this girl was party of a "sniff" gang and last thing is I need her going to the gang saying "I just used w/ XXX - he showed me to shoot. OMG hes such a junkie". but it was funny tho cuz both of us are saying to one another NOT to tell the other persons group of what we did, ha. was kinda funny.

this girl is a true dope fiend but wants NO ONE TO KNOW. only the dopies, that it. if you just meet her she wants you to think she has the world by the balls and is making a huge success of herself. yet shes cheating me out of abut $25 and 2 bupe (I offered the bupe). ha. I know 2 bundles usually go 160-180 depending on the person, so I got cheated there. and she also asked me for $5 gas, ha.

 

[LSDiesel]

So, after finding http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/317605-cocaine-purification-the-absolute-final-thread-thread, I have sorta been obsessing about something.

Now, granted, since I have used illegal drugs in the past, it has probably made me more paranoid than most people since it is a criminal and illegal action, so I always had to be looking over my shoulder.

Anyway, Le Junk states that basically, all cocaine on the street today is garbage, because the manufacturers in Peru, Colombia & Bolivia don't "wash" the final product properly, and it results in a much more fiendish, edgy cocaine high. He states that "good, clean cocaine" stopped in the early 90s.

What else started in the early 90s? South American heroin!

I remember reading somewhere that 1993 was a pivotal year in increased heroin production, and trafficing to the East coast of the US. Basically, previously most heroin was coming from Golden Crescent/Golden Triangle or even Mexico, but not from Colombia, as cocaine was "their product"

Conspiracy theory? The cartels in colombia and south america decided to make heroin instead of cocaine because its more addicting and ultimately a bigger money maker pound for pound if we are talking by weight of very pure product, of which cocaine apparently never is anymore!

 

[ohshea]

it's ok man, we all fuck up. you're on the right track and that's all that matters is the NOW

on the other hand - I feel bad for you ECP users who can't enjoy a good smoke session. the high is a lot more cerebral and heady, almost like good marijuana. and if it's good quality it tastes real nice (if it's bad it just tastes like burning LOL)

Word i started using heroin smoking it. It was much easier, could just run to my car on lunch break and toot a few and go back into work feelin 100x better. Nothin felt better than that first exhale. Youre right, tasted delish.

 

[Welderman]

mentioned it in the bupe thread so I'll mention here.. I rode the drop train last night.

took 8MG bupe in the AM; was at a gas station and ran into some girl I knew dealt w/ shiz. she said oh I have "blah blah" now. so I gave her 100 for a bundle and 2 bupe for the favor. then she walks away. I said, "what did you drop the bag". she goes, "no, I have to go pick up". so she gets back, throws me the bundle and say, "can I borrow 5 bucks for gas", which I gave her for the favor.

anyway, her and I ended up splitting the 2 G's we got, prob for about 180 but I threw in 100 and she didnt want me on the trip to pick up; so we just sniffed rather than shoot. she never shot anyway and I'd rather just sniff because I dont plan on going back on this, but I DID SLIP UP! it was the last few weeks on bupe I cut from 12-6MG too fast and fucked up. going back to 8MG in the morning.

did this dope last night around 830 and just did my first bupe dosage of 4MG 15 minutes ago.

damn girls, dude. you run into them and they fuck up your life, ha.

We all have our weak moments where we slip up. At least you admitted it that's something I would always keep to myself and the guilt of it would fuck with my buzz. But out of curiosity did you get high or did the sub block it to much?

 

[cj]

its happened about a half dozen times that I can confirm, a couple other times I assumed thats what happened but I cant really be sure.

Idk man like I dont like talking about it because I feel like everyone has near death experiences but sometimes I wonder if maybe I actually DID overdose one of those times and this is all just a dream or something Hollywood like that lol. Shit just last week I could have fucked up big time with those MMG bags on christmas eve. meant to bring 4 of em to a family get together and slipped into the bathroom but I only took 3 without realizing. did those and took a xanax I got randomly from a friend and I couldnt tell you what happened after that. I feel like if I had done 4 I could have really ruined just about everyone in my family's life if I dipped out and stopped breathing but maybe someone was trying to tell me something or some shit right?

But due to some new developments in my life, Id be pretty dissappointed in myself if I continued to do it at this point. But words dont mean anything really I just have to prove it.

2 days clean! lol i could never go to rehab and do that shit without being forced to. I know what I need to do I just havent been doing it because you dont give a fuck when youre getting high

Dude i have had that same thought a bunch of times. Like i overdosed and im in a coma waiting for the plug to be pulled. The last time i fell out was 2 weeks ago. I did a big shot i remember putting the needle up then bam im waking up. It had been at least 20 minutes as my legs where numb. It was wierd.

 

[chefman]

Dude stop,shooting before you die,I never fell out that I know of.

 

[Jabberwocky]

We all have our weak moments where we slip up. At least you admitted it that's something I would always keep to myself and the guilt of it would fuck with my buzz. But out of curiosity did you get high or did the sub block it to much?

exactly why I am on this board and writing my BLOG on here; trying to be OPEN and HONEST as possible. I did make a mistake and say 8MG of bupe but it was really 6MG bupe that morning; I will be going back to 8MG starting tomorrow. I took 4MG today and it's gotten me through thus far w/ a little tingling but I know I def. aint buying so I am in no rush to push extra dosage now.

using wasnt the same as it once was for me; I used w/ this girl in her car and sniffed. usually I'd blast OFF at home and just NOD or go to work and blast in those bathrooms; this was just me getting in the car and splitting the bags open to see if it looked right. TELL ME IF YOU GUYS THINK ITS A GRAM! this was JUST MINE and it looked OK once I saw hers; but at first I thought she was going to say she did her and I was stuck w/ this.

Either way, it was a fuck up but I did take 8MG bupe that MORNING so between the bupe and me NOT BLASTING it there were no pleasure but i did feel at ease and much more relaxed and talkative. the thing is, it cost me X. I am SURE she got it 2 for LESS but she took my money, as mentioned, drove up the street, met and then came back. thats fine. its just a favor. but a favor for what? making me use again? ha. i dont blame anyway but me, but kinda funny when you think about it. she even texted me today asking if I needed more and I told her to chill out and I made a mistake. she went on to say shes so sorry and she wont bother me, etc. I said "wait till I bother you.. please dont bother me". ha.

NSFW:

 

[Tommyboy]

^^^

The lyric "into the flood again" is from a different song than the one you linked to. You linked to "Junkhead", did you mean to link to "Would"? That's where that lyric is from.

Anyway, Junkhead is actually one of my favorite AIC songs. That, and the unplugged version of Sludge Factory.

I saw them with the new singer about 3-4 years ago at Terminal 5. I was decked out in my grunge attire and of course brought some dope with me for good measure. Unfortunately two of the people I went with ruined the vibe since they work in the city at jobs that their daddies got for them and so they showed up to the concert in their suits straight from work, and instead of being on the ground floor they wanted to stay up on the balcony at one of the bars, going round for round with the drinks. I backed out after the second round as they were $40 each between the 4 of us, and my other friend who is more down to earth from them admitted to me that it was a mistake to go with them, and he would never do that again.

My favorite part of the night though was when we ditched them and 'Rooster' came on and I saw some dudes spark up a joint and asked to get down on a few hits since it would be my only time seeing AIC and how often do you get the chance to smoke up at a concert like that, so I got my two hits on top of my opiate buzz and it was amazing. That at least redeemed some of the things from my night. Seriously though, wearing a suit and paying for overpriced drinks up on the balcony at a venue like that goes against everything 'grunge' so I was happy to ditch those guys. On top of that I ended up emptying what little amount was left in my bank account on the tickets that I thought I was getting for free but my friend later told me his girl wanted what she paid for the tickets so that caught me off-guard. Then when we got to Penn Station my friend was wasted and went up to some homeless guy there and started telling him how pathetic he was so that got me a little ticked off since I knew that with my habit I could end up there too, and low and behold I did end up on the streets but at least not living in Penn Station at night.

 

[Jabberwocky]

no updates/word on the pic posted? I am allowed to post, right? I'd like to see what others think.

 

[Tommyboy]

no updates/word on the pic posted? I am allowed to post, right? I'd like to see what others think.

It's impossible to tell without something next to it for scale. I have no idea how close or far away the camera is to the dope, so have no idea how big of an area that is that it's taking up. Having said that it definitely looks like it can be a gram.

I don't know how you didn't get high off that amount. When I was on 16mg of bupe a day I would get high from sniffing 4 bags (probably .3 total) after 48 hours, so you would figure that's gotta be close to doing more than twice the amount on less than half the dose of bupe and with the shorter wait. Then again I have no idea how you were able to do 3 grams a day. I equate .1 of heroin to be like 80mg of oxy (fire stuff is more like 100-120mg of oxy, ok stuff is like 60mg of oxy) so 3 grams of average dope a day would be like 2400mg of oxy which is pretty crazy.

 

[RaZkaL86]

no updates/word on the pic posted? I am allowed to post, right? I'd like to see what others think.

It looks like a decent amount but not knowing how much you paid for it (damn rules, haha) leaves it up in the air...been really broke the last few days...my get high bud would throw me a bag when I went to his house every day to have a few coffees and smoke cigs in the AM. But today I was like "why bother with one bag all I'm doin is prolonging the inevitable; gonna have to just kick and be done with it" (at least for the time being, ha) so I stayed home all day just laid up watchin TV under the covers. Shit got old quick and around 5pm I said fuck it and walked over to his house. I could tell he was high he was noddin his ass off and he usually gets this kinda frog in the throat thing when he talks he sounds like he's gargling a huge loogie (yeah it sounds gross) and I bust his balls and tell him swallow that damn frog already!! Alas, today he couldn't help me out with a bag but he gave me a quarter of a sub...it was white and he says these subs he gets sometimes are supposedly for pregnant women!!! I'm like WTF??? But it helped a bit I could eat and it dried my nose up but unfortunately after lying there in bed for about 2 hours(couldn't sleep for shit) so I got up and got on the PC which is why I'm here now writing this....I'm really wanting so bad to just stop so I can go look for a steady job without worrying about the drug screens...then I can afford to get high again, haha!!!

 

[BlueHues]

It looks like about what I usually get for grams, give or take....its the color that I don't like. Every time I get something light brown\orangish, its usually not that great. Its usually "shoot the whole gram" type shit...but its usually cheap...maybe the color came out wrong, and I'll be the first to say: color means nothing. But, THAT particular color that it looks like, has almost always been pretty weak when I've had it..

 

[Effect]

mentioned it in the bupe thread so I'll mention here.. I rode the drop train last night.

took 8MG bupe in the AM; was at a gas station and ran into some girl I knew dealt w/ shiz. she said oh I have "blah blah" now. so I gave her 100 for a bundle and 2 bupe for the favor. then she walks away. I said, "what did you drop the bag". she goes, "no, I have to go pick up". so she gets back, throws me the bundle and say, "can I borrow 5 bucks for gas", which I gave her for the favor.

anyway, her and I ended up splitting the 2 G's we got, prob for about 180 but I threw in 100 and she didnt want me on the trip to pick up; so we just sniffed rather than shoot. she never shot anyway and I'd rather just sniff because I dont plan on going back on this, but I DID SLIP UP! it was the last few weeks on bupe I cut from 12-6MG too fast and fucked up. going back to 8MG in the morning.

did this dope last night around 830 and just did my first bupe dosage of 4MG 15 minutes ago.

damn girls, dude. you run into them and they fuck up your life, ha.

Haven't read the bupe thread in a few days so I'm not sure if you got into more details in that post but where were you that you were able to score a bundle? Surprised you just let her leave with your cash too.

Anyway I don't wanna give you the whole deal about reminding you how you didn't wanna go back to that lifestyle before your OD cause I'm sure you know what the deal is and don't wanna hear it from someone else.

Whats your plan now though? Bring your bupe dosage back up or keep it low and try to just keep going as if you didn't get high? Or you could play the whole jump back and forth gane, which can be shitty in it's own way, especially if you just end up using for like a weekend straight and then when your bupe 'vacation' is over and it's time to take it again, you ultimately just say fuck it and don't.