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Benzos under dose

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methylone1

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i swapped from doc to psych & used to be on 100 valium a month. This psych has given me 50. I thought id be alright but i worked out how many days id use & Im going to run out in less than 15 days. In the meantime which will be another month before i see this psych what other benzos are similar to valium? I tried etiz & it was nothing of the sort. Diclaz? Pyraz? How are they? Amy others?
 
You are under the care of a doctor. He reduced your dose and it's not working. Call his office and speak to him, tell him the situation and I'm sure he will work with you.
 
Using RC benzos is just asking for trouble. Your doctor should not have cut your dose in half, it is obviously not working. If you are trying to use valium medically, and not recreationally at all, then you need to listen to exactly what your doc tells you or you will slip down the slippery slope of benzo addiction.
 
Yeah, you need to work this out with your new doctor.
If you were using the diazepam as directed and not abusing it then you should be able to reduce at a slower safer rate. Reducing you by 50% is a joke and completely against your doctors duty of care because a reduction that quick could cause seizures and/or painful muscle spasms.
The hippocratic oath says first do no harm....cant see how your docs actions follow this.
 
if only it were that easy to call & ask for an increase. Its a lot more complicated than u think
 
well my doc cant prescribe me it anymore thats why i was referred to this psych. This psych isn't any old psych. Took me ages to finally get it subscribed. He said no about 3 times & every time id turn around & say something that would back him into a corner. He knew i wasn't going to back down & take no for an answer. Ok maybe its not valium. Im just paranoid he may be reading this but im not doing anything wrong im no doc shopper nothing like that just benzos play games with ya head ya know?
 
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i swapped from doc to psych & used to be on 100 valium a month. This psych has given me 50. I thought id be alright but i worked out how many days id use & Im going to run out in less than 15 days. In the meantime which will be another month before i see this psych what other benzos are similar to valium? I tried etiz & it was nothing of the sort. Diclaz? Pyraz? How are they? Amy others?
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Flubromazepam...its quite expensive if you can find it though. I use valium everyday and cover up for my fucking up days (when I take more than scripted) with etizolam...it works but you need to take more than 1-2mg if you have a tolerance which seems similar to mine. I eat 5 to 8mg a day and do totally fine. Do not buy pyrazolam, its as weak as oxazepam and takes as long to kick in, pass on that one. Never tried diclaz, it seems alright according to the main thread about it on this board, but nothing beats flubromazepam if you want a benzo without a script. You like bromazepam ? (Lectopam in Canada), well imagine an even more hypnotic bromazepam that lasts about the same amount of time.
 
tried flubro & in high doses too. No effect but my toll is pretty high but could just been bunk pills
 
And i heard every1 saying pyraz is good if ur not tryin 2 chase a high (if there is any for some ppl) guess ppl take them for diff reasons but i dont take them For any high at all
 
Still, cutting your dose like that…there is a strong argument that that is malpractice; being yanked off of a large dose of benzos without weaning down (because if your doctor did it the competent way, you would have gotten a step-down schedule) can not only lead to the withdrawals that we all know and love, but cutting your daily intake/habit (doesn't really matter which it is if you were taking them as prescribed by your old doctor) puts you at a high risk for seizure.

My ex used to take 15+ bars a day, and when he was drinking (a handle a day, but he was never doing that regularly at the same time as the heavy bar use; before the bars he was doing this daily, though) he'd still be taking xans on top of it. Long story short, he's now on a veritable pharmacy's worth of god-awful seizure medication (he now gets them regularly; I have seen it everywhere from on the couch to on tile floor at work) and Klonopin, which most of us know is the devil's very own brand of benzodiazepine. He turned into the walking dead on i

At any rate, I would (in vaguer terms, of course) relay these concerns to your doctor. Hell, you could even tell him that your family has a history of seizures and that's why you're concerned. But cutting in half without weaning, that's just stupid, lazy and reckless.

Of course, it sounds like your doc is a little bit wary of you and drug-seeking behavior. I've been in the same boat with valium and xanax, and the funniest part is that I fucking hate benzos and the only time you'll catch me taking my script is when severe anxiety kicks in, which rushes acid to my stomach and irritates my ulcerative colitis. But it really doesn't matter WHY he cut you down, what matters is HOW, and whether he gave serious consideration to the possible consequences. Try the angle where you admit that your previous script was probably unnecessarily high, and you want to get down to his recommended dose, but that you don't feel comfortable or safe doing so in one fell swoop.
 
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I know all of that rednosed broski, if you were talking to me. What I do is different from that, I buy some of those no-rx benzos because I am underdosed, so I take my correct dose, but that leaves me empty-handed for up to a week sometimes. The etizo or flubro allow me not to experience the insanity that is benz wd. I have 3/4 of a BS in pharmacology but even more important, a decade+ of self experience and not part of the program reading by the truckload :)

Oh I see, replying to OP, nevermind then. Yes, the doctor has been ridiculous on him and knows nothing of how to taper one from benzos. When I tapered 2/3 my dose of benzos I was on 3mg clonazepam, switched to 50mg valium for a week, 45mg for a week etc. until I reached 20mg.
Can't go lower than that and the occasional .5mg xanax for panic (i only get 15 every 2 weeks), I def rely much more on the diazepam, which coupled with my regular tagamet script gives chances to its metabolites.
 
lol no . You hot it all wrong once again. I dont know everything bout benzos but i can say i know a damn well more bout em than this psych who has put me from a longer acting benzo to a shorter acting one at only 50 pills instead of 100. Yes i tried the powder too 10mg diclazepam fell sleep 4 hours. GOt 20 mg etiz but that just gon make worse. Fark is there any country where you dont need a script for bennys?
 
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lol no . You hot it all wrong once again. I dont know everything bout benzos but i can say i know a damn well more bout em than this psych who has put me from a longer acting benzo to a shorter acting one at only 50 pills instead of 100. Yes i tried the powder too 10mg diclazepam fell sleep 4 hours. GOt 20 mg etiz but that just gon make worse. Fark is there any country where you dont need a script for bennys?
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All them countries sandwiched between germany and russia, except Poland, these people only swear by vodka, for the flu, for sex enhancement, for work, everything.
 
:( screw it then. If theres no countries that dont require a script for bennys then ill just get more. Its really annoying been up for bout 2 hrs now so guess gonna just eat the last 20mg etiz. I have other meds 2 put me 2 sleep but i wake up feeling like poo
 
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