I posted this on another forum but I figured I'd post here as well just to add to the collective experience.
So I thought I'd share my experiences with Diphenidine since nobody seems to be talking about it. This is based on four experiences, never higher than 100mg. I'll probably push the dose a little but the magical 150 people talk about seems like a bit much for me. To start this one has almost no euphoria or sense of well-being like many of the arycylohexylamines. WIth MXE you can take a low dose and just relax, enjoying movies and music. With Diphenidine everything seems distant and uninteresting. This is one to take for exploring different states of mind rather than recreation, I'd be very surprised if there was any affinity for SERT or DAT.
The time frame of diphenidine is what makes it difficult, it has a slow come, about an hour without feeling much of anything. Then out of nowhere it all comes on at once. A very powerful dissociation characterized mostly by sensory distortion, a strong buzzing in your head, and amnesia. This state, which I'll talk about a bit more later, lasts maybe an hour tops before devolving into a pretty lucid but still altered headspace. The entire experience resembles a dissociative punch in the face, the rapid onset of the peak leaves you disoriented and confused, combined with the amnesia the second less intense portion is spent mostly wondering what just happened.
Now when I say amnesia I don't mean it in the sense of benzos or alcohol. You can still remember what you were doing and what happened but you can't remember your thoughts, feelings, or even being there really. It feels like you blacked out for about an hour and someone else made up some memories for you to fill in the gaps. It's the kind of drug where I could see myself staring at a wall for 45 minutes without even realizing it. Some people have described this as being similar to a type of "zen state" where you have silenced your inner dialogue but comparisons to becoming a zombie or having a lobotomy also come to mind.
There are no CEVs like MXE or Ketamine but there is the capability for some horrendus sensory distortion. I'm sure all of us are familiar with the "stuttering" effect that can happen with high dissociative doses, the stuttering on diphenidine was to the point where I couldn't tell what was to my left and what was to my right at times. To summarize your senses become a jumbled confused mess and your subconscious seems to take control almost like an emergency autopilot as your conscious mind fails to connect with even your thoughts or emotions.
Next I want to talk about the "buzzing" I've experienced. With many drugs there is an associated physical feeling in your head. Diphenidine is one of those, the only way to describe it is a buzz especially since there is a literal buzzing sound which I can only assume is some kind of tinnitus warped by the sensory distortion. This buzz is very similar to the one that I get on 4-MeO-PCP but beyond this superficial aspect the chemicals are nothing alike. Infact the headspace doesn't resemble arylcyclohexylamines at all, when described they both sound like dissociatives but they *feel* completely different.
Finally I want to mention the combos with MXE I've done. The "boring" phase after the peak tends to last for a really fucking long time and so sometimes I've found myself taking bumps of MXE during it to spice it up a bit. Both times have resulted in a very deep but lucid hole from relatively small amounts of MXE. The hole resembles some of my early MXE holes but without the overwhelming confusion. The visual aspect is more muted than a standard M-hole, there are no otherworldly visions conjuered but there are some rather abstract psychedelic CEVs.
I hate to simply reiterate what everyone else has said before but this is something worth taking a handful of times at most. It certainly gives you some interesting data points in the spectrum of altered states and I would be VERY interested to see it's binding affinities, but it's not one that I can see myself coming back to for mind blowing experiences and certainly not one for recreation.
I will give it one or two more tries, maybe 110mg and once again mixed with noopept. The second phase is a good launching point for other dissociatives but I also found the mix quite physically draining.
So I thought I'd share my experiences with Diphenidine since nobody seems to be talking about it. This is based on four experiences, never higher than 100mg. I'll probably push the dose a little but the magical 150 people talk about seems like a bit much for me. To start this one has almost no euphoria or sense of well-being like many of the arycylohexylamines. WIth MXE you can take a low dose and just relax, enjoying movies and music. With Diphenidine everything seems distant and uninteresting. This is one to take for exploring different states of mind rather than recreation, I'd be very surprised if there was any affinity for SERT or DAT.
The time frame of diphenidine is what makes it difficult, it has a slow come, about an hour without feeling much of anything. Then out of nowhere it all comes on at once. A very powerful dissociation characterized mostly by sensory distortion, a strong buzzing in your head, and amnesia. This state, which I'll talk about a bit more later, lasts maybe an hour tops before devolving into a pretty lucid but still altered headspace. The entire experience resembles a dissociative punch in the face, the rapid onset of the peak leaves you disoriented and confused, combined with the amnesia the second less intense portion is spent mostly wondering what just happened.
Now when I say amnesia I don't mean it in the sense of benzos or alcohol. You can still remember what you were doing and what happened but you can't remember your thoughts, feelings, or even being there really. It feels like you blacked out for about an hour and someone else made up some memories for you to fill in the gaps. It's the kind of drug where I could see myself staring at a wall for 45 minutes without even realizing it. Some people have described this as being similar to a type of "zen state" where you have silenced your inner dialogue but comparisons to becoming a zombie or having a lobotomy also come to mind.
There are no CEVs like MXE or Ketamine but there is the capability for some horrendus sensory distortion. I'm sure all of us are familiar with the "stuttering" effect that can happen with high dissociative doses, the stuttering on diphenidine was to the point where I couldn't tell what was to my left and what was to my right at times. To summarize your senses become a jumbled confused mess and your subconscious seems to take control almost like an emergency autopilot as your conscious mind fails to connect with even your thoughts or emotions.
Next I want to talk about the "buzzing" I've experienced. With many drugs there is an associated physical feeling in your head. Diphenidine is one of those, the only way to describe it is a buzz especially since there is a literal buzzing sound which I can only assume is some kind of tinnitus warped by the sensory distortion. This buzz is very similar to the one that I get on 4-MeO-PCP but beyond this superficial aspect the chemicals are nothing alike. Infact the headspace doesn't resemble arylcyclohexylamines at all, when described they both sound like dissociatives but they *feel* completely different.
Finally I want to mention the combos with MXE I've done. The "boring" phase after the peak tends to last for a really fucking long time and so sometimes I've found myself taking bumps of MXE during it to spice it up a bit. Both times have resulted in a very deep but lucid hole from relatively small amounts of MXE. The hole resembles some of my early MXE holes but without the overwhelming confusion. The visual aspect is more muted than a standard M-hole, there are no otherworldly visions conjuered but there are some rather abstract psychedelic CEVs.
I hate to simply reiterate what everyone else has said before but this is something worth taking a handful of times at most. It certainly gives you some interesting data points in the spectrum of altered states and I would be VERY interested to see it's binding affinities, but it's not one that I can see myself coming back to for mind blowing experiences and certainly not one for recreation.
I will give it one or two more tries, maybe 110mg and once again mixed with noopept. The second phase is a good launching point for other dissociatives but I also found the mix quite physically draining.
