16th issue General Heroin Discussion v hit it raw or bag it up?

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I had a 1 gram a day a habit which in New Jersey is less than a Grant,
all depends on where you live and who you know I guess
But where I am from its cheaper to buy the dope than to spend 40 cents
plus a Mg and when your needed to score around ten times an OC/80-mg it can get pricey
 
4 am and I can feel the withdrawals kickin in, dd the last of my d earlier today. I really just want to get clean for myself for once. The other times I got clean because I was forced to, idk, i feel like I should try and stop dope for good before I move on to the needle which I've already done a few times, snorting it is just so damn inefficient and costly, plus I'm kicking the shit out of my nose
 
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Man, I'm fucking nervous...I have a sub doctor out here in cow-country. I never wanted to be on this shit again, but a month relapse on the dope last winter and here I am!

I'm only scripted 4mgs a day, which was plenty for the first few months, but these last 2 months I've been taking six mgs a day. I only filled my script 40 days ago, and I used up what was supposed to be 2 months worth. I see the doc tomorrow and I'll have a new script, but I don't know if I'll be able to fill it because on the system it will say I'm not due for another 20 days! Of course, the only reason I made it to the doctors appointment tomorrow with sub is because I was only taking 2mgs a day and saving the rest a few months ago. What an idiot, I went from 2 a day to 6 a day...Actually I'm taking about 4mgs a day and my girlfriend is taking 1.5 to 2.0!

I hope the doc calls the pharmacy and tells them to fill it, if not I'm gonna be stuck having to go back to dope or whatever the fuck else I can find out here, which is way too expensive! keeping my fingers crossed!
 
XThexXTank said:
Hey whats good yall. Gotta quick question. I posted in the cwe thread but didnt get an answer so ima ask here. What % of ibuprofen doesnt get extracted from a cwe? Im planning on doin alot of pills an each one has 200mg so i wanted to know if lets say from each pill theres like 10 or 20mg that dont get extracted so i know.
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I don't know off hand. It's going to depend on variables like water temperature and the type of filter you are using. You might be able to find something in the OD directory but, keep in mind that it won't be exact. Why are you concerned?
 
Well lets say from the 200mg only 50% gets filtered so theres 100mg from each pill left over. If i was to down 20 pills from the cwe that still leaves 2000mg of ibuprofen im eating an i dont want that.

Is the more cold the water the better?
 
@Johnnyblue, I hated my 2 months on suboxone made me feel like shit even at low doses. I would conisider methadone, idk. Methadone scares me


On second thought, that might take care of my pain management too. I think I'll look into methadone.
 
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Man, I'm fucking nervous...I have a sub doctor out here in cow-country. I never wanted to be on this shit again, but a month relapse on the dope last winter and here I am!

I'm only scripted 4mgs a day, which was plenty for the first few months, but these last 2 months I've been taking six mgs a day. I only filled my script 40 days ago, and I used up what was supposed to be 2 months worth. I see the doc tomorrow and I'll have a new script, but I don't know if I'll be able to fill it because on the system it will say I'm not due for another 20 days! Of course, the only reason I made it to the doctors appointment tomorrow with sub is because I was only taking 2mgs a day and saving the rest a few months ago. What an idiot, I went from 2 a day to 6 a day...Actually I'm taking about 4mgs a day and my girlfriend is taking 1.5 to 2.0!

I hope the doc calls the pharmacy and tells them to fill it, if not I'm gonna be stuck having to go back to dope or whatever the fuck else I can find out here, which is way too expensive! keeping my fingers crossed!
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Maybe get a dosage change so they will have to fill it right away. I know that they started making 4mg and 12 mg subs to fill in the gap between the 2 and 8mgs, so if you are getting the 8's ask for twice the amount in 4's or something, or if you are getting 4's tell him you would rather have 8's so it's less pills or whatever you want to say.
 
^Yeah, that's what I'm thinkin, better to just tell the doctor I need more than to take my chances and end up screwed for 10 days! I met someone for tar here that I've picked up a few times but this isn't the East Coast! I really don't know that many people that do anything other than weed, any pills are gonna be outrageous and unaffordable for me right now. I'm sure there's people on subs, but to have to wander around this backwards-ass city looking for anything other than crack and meth would be pretty f'in stressful in 95 degree weather!

I just hope he's not one of these morons that's like, "You should of told me before you started taking more!"...It's like, dude I'm on suboxone, if I could control myself with opiates we wouldn't be sitting here right now!
 
The methadone clinic makes it so difficult to get started.

Picked up three points today, how y'all doin this morning?
 
hope everyone is doing well.

I managed to fall right back into chipping as soon as my friend got out of jail, which I kind of was expecting because he had been asking for me to get him LSD and wanted me to fix his laptop for him so I had a lot lot leverage to be honest. I went down to his new house and it was crazy because it was literally on the same street of this other guy I knew and used to get weed off of. It was just on the opposite set of row homes after a street split it in two, so not the same street section per se but real damn close. So I get down to his house around 2:30 pm and the whole situation immediately sucks because his girlfriend is there and they seriously have the stupidest and most ridiculous love/hate relationship I've ever seen. They like both do dope, but don't want the other to do dope like it's fucking retarded lol.

Either way, I get down there and fix his laptop (which was really nice actually), explain to him I will be able to get him LSD by the end of the month, and then as soon as his gf took a piss I was just like "you know you can pay for this in bags right?" and he just said, in his goofy ass voice, "argght I'll make a few calls" and he walked out front of the house.So im just sitting in this dirty ass house watching Martin on a nice ass TV with this girl who makes everything so much more annoying than it has to be. But he comes back in like not even two minutes later and says to his girlfriend that I would give them a ride to go pick up some shit from her house after he helped me get some bags. She was just all "ok but you better not be doing them Timothy" (not his real name at all I just think its funny because he looks nothing like a Timothy). at 3:48pm we leave his house to head out to get the bags, and by 4pm were getting to the spot were supposed to meet the guy at but he didnt respond for about a 5 minute period so we wound up just going to a different spot that both him and his gf used to go to.

So they get into this big stink over whether she is still going there to get high and all that "get your shit together" talk we've all heard either given to us or people we know before. He accused her of getting free bags from the dealer because she was fucking him while he was in jail and all of these just general whore-related practices. Either way, I didn't really care at that point since I got what I needed so I take them to her house which was like 25 minutes away and she goes inside to get her shit. Apparently, her family hates my friend (her bf) and isn't afraid to let the girl know. While she's inside he's just sitting in the passenger seat muttering that she's probably shooting up right now and all this other shit. So she finally comes out like 20 minutes after she goes inside (way too long to just be grabbing clothes) and she's like all stumbling across the street towards the car clearly crying over something. She gets in the car and just starts balling her eyes out about how her family fucking hates her and she forgot it was her mom's birthday and got high instead and like all this typical scumbag shit that is really bringing down my high and just fucking with the chi of my entire vehicle at that point.

And what she doesn't know at that point in time is that my friend is already planning on leaving her because she acts like a 3-year old when shes high, and a 10 year old when she's not. So she's babbling about how he's all she has left and im just sitting there knowing that her entire world is about to be pulled out from underneath her.

But I don't say anything and drop them off, and as he's about to get out of the car I just told him with his recent legal situation it'd be a lot easier if I could just get the guy's number and that'd id make it worth his while to give me it. He probably would have given me it just because he doesn't really sell anymore anyway, but I pulled out the 1 1/2 Ecstasy pills I had left (about 220 mgs total) and told him id give it to him for the number. So after that whole exchange I drove home thanking god I wouldn't have to deal with that drama again the next time I just want to buy some fucking bags.

hit the new dude up a few times, every time has been smooth as shit and I don't even have to go into a real hot area to meet him. For the price of a few mgs of mdma I was trying to put off taking anyway, it was a mutually beneficial trade id say. been getting blue blanks for a decent price, pretty good quality too. Can't complain right now
 
^Yeah that's cool, but I think I posted this somewhere the other day....

When you can't just easily get dope anytime or you have to go through people to get it, you think it's gonna be so great when you finally have that guy you can call anytime for any amount of dope....but once you can get it that easily like that is when you turn into a junkie...If you love doing heroin and you're gonna do it anyway its great, but removing those extra few steps and not having to give up any dope, and being able to get any amount makes it a virtual guarantee that you'll end up completely strung out! With a middleman, chances are you won't even bother trying to cop with $20-$30....When you have that good connect, you'll be calling up the guy bein like "I have $30, can I get back at you for the other $20", and shit like that....

There's been a lot of times when I was getting dope for people, and I knew they were right on the line of having it be serious....I wouldn't give them the number because I knew that once they had that number, they were all done!

You're young, you're not married and don't have kids, so aside from your family, it's really your life to fuck up! I get tired of lecturing people and I know you know the ramifications of what you're doing, but be prepared to be married to opiates in one form or another for the rest of your life at this point, because that's the just the way it is!

Keep it reasonable and don't do anything stupid or get locked up....16 years later, I can't really say that I regret using heroin or being addicted to it. I love getting high, it's what I wanted to do and I did it. It makes everyone do fucked up things from time to time, but I've actually managed to pull it off without turning into a complete scumbag, which is possible, contrary to popular belief! The only thing I regret is the time I've wasted.....I've still done a lot of things in my life, but it will kill your ambition...You may end up successful to some degree, but you'll never realize your full potential if you use heroin....Which most people don't realize their full potential anyway, so...I guess there's there worse things...

I was off it and now I'm on Suboxone, again! Since I started shooting heroin 16 or so years ago, I've been physically dependent on opiates in one form or another for probably around 12 years out of 16...
This is a funny thing to say, but the key to my longevity in the dope game....I know when to let off the gas and back off for awhile, there's a lot of kids I've seen that start IVing it and go insane and start fucking over everybody and everything, stealing...Never fuck over your real friends or burn all your bridges for drugs...

Lecture over.
 
idk its never gotten to that point in the past

not that its impossible to reach, I just dont really know how else to explain my heroin usage, and how little I fiend for it
 
^Only time will tell....I have an addictive personality and I really don't even feel bad about it, but a lot of people hate the whole stigma and the idea of it.
I've met so many people who have prided themselves on being able to do drugs and not get addicted, who thought everyone who did was weak willed, and would launch into an hour long lecture about how they only do it when they take care of all their responsibilities, etc.

One of my best friends was like that. He started doing it at the same time as the rest of my friends did, but he stopped and took 2 week breaks and everything else. I would always be the one to get it for him for years. He has 2 bachelors degrees and a masters degree in Astro-physics. He works in software development for a major corporation and makes a shit ton of money!

For years, I would love it when he wanted to party because he would just start by going to the ATM and taking out $500 and we'd just go buy whatever we wanted!

He chipped like that for years, kept his job....About 4 years ago, he started doing it more and more and ended up with a habit, still always going through me. He was tough too, he would kick it by tapering on suboxone and go into work sick all the time.

When I left for rehab a few years ago, I finally hooked him up with my best connect at the time, because he asked me too and I didn't want him to get sick. Since then, he's been doing more dope than even I ever did. I don't even know how much...when I was last there, I saw him picking up 3 bricks(150 bags) one day and then 2 days later calling for another 3 like it was nothing....

all I'm saying, once he finally got the direct line to the dope, it just made it way too easy for him. Money wasn't an issue and it just goes that way.....

Other drugs maybe, but heroin will grab you sooner or later, and once it does...all the willpower in the world doesn't mean shit...
 
Oh trust me man im not doing dope with the intention of trying to beat the long term effects due to some percieved ability to be unaffected by it. Im just trying to get high
 
^Well that's cool anyway....Nothing drives me more insane than someone sitting there getting high while trying to convince everyone and themselves that they're not getting addicted...
 
i dont have a heroin addiction I have a drug addiction

heroin just happens to be the best value
 
i love baltimore dope. been doing speedballs since 6am. my one coke vial is almost gone (ill save a nice bump for the am) but i got 5 vials left of raw so im straight. also got a sub strip which ill need cuz my parents wanna start drug testing me. its good cuz i really gotta stop my habit, save money, get a car etc and maybe this will be a little kick in the ass to help me. its not the only thing thats gonna help cuz eventually ill be on my own anyways.

fuck. i feel awesome
 
even though its about afghanistan..this is one of the saddest docs ive seen on dope..15,13,12, 9year old...even a 3year and one year old all addicited to heroin..the little babies because of their father smoking it and then being in the same room..but the otherones all started out by it being given to them by their partents bc they have pain and cant afford medicine or they started using cause their paretns were both killed when they were little and by the time they are 12 they are smoking it themselves

and they talk about the price..1gram is about the price on 1 british pound, so what like 1.50$ here in america? for a fuckin gram of dope, not some bag that is cut to shit with dormin and costs you 10bucks...fuck i need to go hit up afghanistan at those prices..sounds like the place to go if you wanna die cause at those prices if the taliban dont caatch you that dope habit will being so cheap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyvFBqlCiCw
 
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