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What Was Your Morning Fix? v. Cheese and Heroin Omelette

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Well i had a semi long post that did have some attacks. But the main point of it was debunking some of your logic against him for using heroin etc.
And i did back up my claims, but it all got deleted. O well : (
 
Ho-Chi-Minh said:
I'm interested in decent conversation, seriously. The fact of the matter is that you are verbally abusing me for taking my medicine as prescribed; that you have yet to post any sources which concludes that the medicine I take is toxic; and that you generally have no idea of what you're talking about. Please don't take this as an insult; I make it my duty to understand the risks that go into my decisions.

If you want to get anywhere in this beyond yelling meaningless insults, I encourage you to back up your claims. If you respond with further personal attacks, I will simply assert my maturity by ignoring them.

That is all.
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I think people are getting on your case because most peoples idea of a "morning fix" do not include your daily psych meds and supplements. Also, if you are taking your ADD/ADHD medication as prescribed then it's not getting high, is it? Perhaps the Healthy Living subforum has a thread more suited to vitamins, supplements and therapeutic dosages of psych meds.

Can't we all get along?! =D
 
F1n1shed said:
And W.A i was actually kind of going off on Ho Chi, not really you.
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Ok cool. I was assuming you lumped me in with HCM because I agree with a couple of his points. I'm sure you had some valid points, I agreed with a couple of your statements. I would like to see what you were going to say and would like to see this dialogue on the topic continue. Probably better in a new thread. I will start one. Please keep discussions civil. If I'm going to start a thread I don't want it to get wasted or closed down because people favored emotion over reason.
 
smokemctoke420 said:
^ probaly was. It's straightened you out so far. Keep up the good work.

Ot: 3 bags of dope (2 before work 1 now)

2 bowls of super sour diesel
Cigs
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Yeah it did... cause man I was pretty fucked up near the end of my use... and was lying to myself and everyone about how bad my use was, but anyways thank you.
 
Lol i can go off sometimes, but i don't mean any real harm. I'll try to keep it toned down more, unless someone is fucking with me.
 
Had Vitamin C, Vitamin B complex, Calcium that also has small amounts of magnesium, glucosamine, coffee, cigarettes, plenty of water, and a protein shake, so that I can endure this meth comedown. :-\
 
A large spliff, large coffee, and bacon. Happy amrrica day peoples. I cant wait to get home from work and relax %)
 
Rabidrabbit said:
I think people are getting on your case because most peoples idea of a "morning fix" do not include your daily psych meds and supplements. Also, if you are taking your ADD/ADHD medication as prescribed then it's not getting high, is it? Perhaps the Healthy Living subforum has a thread more suited to vitamins, supplements and therapeutic dosages of psych meds.

Can't we all get along?! =D
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I understand this position, and appreciate your candor/outreach effort. However, what I'm hoping is that we can get to a place in the future where our "fix" is in fact healthy and productive; I am attempting to set an example. My fix used to be something along the lines of:

1 large glass poppy seed tea
one giant bong rip dank nugs
two large coffees

Why relate this? Because it got me no where. Now I'm not about to tell people what drugs to do, but they certainly shouldn't be ostracizing me for not doing drugs. Do you agree?
 
Ho-Chi-Minh said:
I understand this position, and appreciate your candor/outreach effort. However, what I'm hoping is that we can get to a place in the future where our "fix" is in fact healthy and productive; I am attempting to set an example. My fix used to be something along the lines of:

1 large glass poppy seed tea
one giant bong rip dank nugs
two large coffees

Why relate this? Because it got me no where. Now I'm not about to tell people what drugs to do, but they certainly shouldn't be ostracizing me for not doing drugs. Do you agree?
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Yea you shouldn't be ostracized for not doing drugs. But this is a morning 'fix' thread on a (drug forum site,drug culture section) meaning you would usually talk about what mind altering substances you woke up to. Not vitamins and things of that sort... but to each their own.
 
Ho-Chi-Minh said:
I understand this position, and appreciate your candor/outreach effort. However, what I'm hoping is that we can get to a place in the future where our "fix" is in fact healthy and productive; I am attempting to set an example. My fix used to be something along the lines of:

1 large glass poppy seed tea
one giant bong rip dank nugs
two large coffees

Why relate this? Because it got me no where. Now I'm not about to tell people what drugs to do, but they certainly shouldn't be ostracizing me for not doing drugs. Do you agree?
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Of course one should not be ostracized for their abstinence from drug use. I definitely aspire to have a morning fix similar to yours and ingest things that are healthy for my body and mind. But I feel like Drug Culture, as a forum, attracts the heaviest users of substances and perhaps the largest number of addicts on Bluelight, except of course for The Dark Side, but this is a forum for "lighthearted conversation about drugs" rather than conversation about getting clean. Perhaps we haven't admitted to ourselves we have a drug problem. Perhaps we feel like we have our drug use under control. Perhaps our drug use actually ISN'T a problem.

Whatever the case may be, however, most of us in DC are multiple-times-a-week drug users, all the way up to multiple-times-a-day drug users.

I'll use myself as an example: I'm physically addicted to 4 substances: benzodiazepines, opiates, caffeine and nicotine. Obviously, this is not a point of pride for me, but rather a statement of fact. If I don't manage to "fix" each morning by ingesting each one of those substances in some form, I will end up with, at best, a nagging psychological craving (caffeine) and at worst, a grand mal seizure in which death is a possibility (benzodiazepines). At the very least, I'm not going to be feeling good - hell, I'm not going to even be feeling like a NORMAL HUMAN BEING -- if I don't get these "fixes". Perhaps it's the word "fix" that is where the misunderstandings come into play.

When you say you take your psych meds at the proper dosages and use herbal supplements, it can seem condescending to someone who isn't comfortable with the amount of drugs they use but who still wish to talk lightheartedly about drugs. It's not the "let's get the posters of Drug Culture clean" thread, lol. Although I'd love for all of us here to not have any problems and use to our hearts' content, it's not going to happen.

I feel like you were unfairly disrespectful to the BLer escape20 with your list, comparing his use of heroin to your use of dextroamphetamine. That list you made comes off as being made by someone who has been hurt by an addict's behavior at some point in your life or who is currently being hurt by the behavior of an addict. Maybe it was your own admitted addict behavior that hurt you and made you project that hurt onto the other posters of DC by making really sarcastic and hurtful comments. I'm sure most posters in DC who saw your post didn't have nearly the reaction to it that a few others did. Maybe a lot of posters had that same reaction. Either way, almost every BLer who regularly posts in DC, I feel, are for the most part awesome people who practice the philosophy of Harm Reduction that Bluelight preaches. They are very valuable people who's practice of Harm Reduction in their own use and in their influence of telling others who aren't Bluelighters about Harm Reduction is something I feel like is a huge success in the world, where sadly enough, what a person decides to put in their body can put them behind bars, with murderers and rapists. Do drug users/addicts belong in prison? Absolutely not. Are all drug users/addicts going to end up in prison? Absolutely not. Perhaps the American government would like it that way, but it's not going to happen.

OK, I think I addressed everything I wanted to and I feel like the actual "incident" that happen didn't warrant any sort of personal attacks but I think some good did come out of it and that's what BL is here for right? :)

And let's not kid ourselves and remember that ALL of these drugs here were legal at one time or another and may STILL be legal in certain countries. "Legality" is a poor way of defining something that's safe.

(Sorry I went on for so long about nothing.)

My morning fix was... a couple bags of heroin, 2mg of Klonopin, a cup of coffee and 3 Pall Malls. %)
 
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Just coffee and cigarettes this morning... but will be on my way shortly to the dispensary to make sure this weekend is a good one!
 
^ you don't even wanna know :p

-woke up from a klonopin and alcohol hang over
.5mg clonazepam followed by a bowl shortly
 
Weed and lots of it also an etizolam. Fuck those cherry flavored things they are more addicting then xanax.

Also, I'm done with the back and forth with Ho-Chi-Mihn...dude did piss me off a few days ago but it's all in the past now. Thanks to everyone who had my back though :)
 
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