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Ceres said:
british people can be fucking arrogant when they are in other countries, it's horrendous sometimes watching people behave like utter morons when they are on holiday. fucking embarassment
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Just reminded me of Russell Howard - "Oi, Pedro! do you do chips?!"
 
Ceres said:
british people can be fucking arrogant when they are in other countries, it's horrendous sometimes watching people behave like utter morons when they are on holiday. fucking embarassment
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I often hesitate to admit it . Depending on where i am .

In the States it's sweet though cos they all think you know the Queen n similar madness :)
 
brimz said:
I often hesitate to admit it . Depending on where i am .

In the States it's sweet though cos they all think you know the Queen n similar madness :)
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I'd be forever fighting the urge to finish every sentence with "pip, pip, cheerio!".
 
gayorstraight said:
Bit of an over-generalisation there.. there are plenty of English people who take pride in our country and language
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Possibly. You'd have to see for yourself the depth and ferocity of Welsh passion and pride. I have never witnessed the same thing in England. On further thought, the English tend to be proud of their own particular region, rather than the whole country, again that may be a sweeping over genaralisation, but not far from the truth IME........

Ive changed my mind again.Im so indecisive. When ive been abroad and fly back to England, something swells up inside me. I do love Britain. I call myself British, not English. I have a fiercly proud Scotish father, english mother, and i spent the first 19 years of my life in Wales.
 
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mydrugbuddy said:
Possibly. You'd have to see for yourself the depth and ferocity of Welsh passion and pride. I have never witnessed the same thing in England.
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Totally get you MDB. Passion, pride, spilling easily into nationalism and naked racism.

Most racists have a misplaced superiority complex. The Welsh are the first nation I've come across in the world who have an inferiority complex. And a huge great chip on their shoulder because of it.

I get called intellectual (which is funny enough as it is) as an insult here.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Possibly. You'd have to see for yourself the Welsh passion and pride. I have never witnessed the same thing in England.
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It's important to remember that 'England' is a relatively modern construct though.

Not to negate Scottish or Welsh (or Manx and Cornish, at a stretch) national pride; they're both equally valid and admirable. They both emerged from resistance to the waves of invasion / colonisation that eventually saw Britain divided into what it is now. I think that's the main reason why pride in being 'English' doesn't tend to ring true. Before the Roman invasion, the notion of 'England' as a nation would have been laughable to the numerous tribes scattered around the land.

Regardless of my non-English ancestry, I certainly don't feel 'English' at the best of times. British, yes. Mancunian even more so. But the same nationality as people from East Anglia? Absolutely not.
 
Not to negate Scottish or Welsh (or Manx and Cornish, at a stretch)
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Some shite comes out yer mouth sometimes . I am a fiercely Proud Bathonian had you not noticed & the West Country in general is a special place .

Roman ffs Bath is probably the most Roman place in the U.K
 
Myshkin said:
It's important to remember that 'England' is a relatively modern construct though.

Not to negate Scottish or Welsh (or Manx and Cornish, at a stretch) national pride; they're both equally valid and admirable. They both emerged from resistance to the waves of invasion / colonisation that eventually saw Britain divided into what it is now. I think that's the main reason why pride in being 'English' doesn't tend to ring true. Before the Roman invasion, the notion of 'England' as a nation would have been laughable to the numerous tribes scattered around the land.

Regardless of my non-English ancestry, I certainly don't feel 'English' at the best of times. British, yes. Mancunian even more so. But the same nationality as people from East Anglia? Absolutely not.
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yep i edited my post to say much the same as you said there.

SHM : There is a very anti intellectual thing in working class manchester, as in all working class communities i guess.

GOS: I admire the welsh passion. I feel the emotion. Like when you walk into a pub where everyones drunk to hell, you can sometimes feel instantly pissed too, though youve yet to have a sip, if you know what i mean. It is a known phenomenon (yay i spelt that right first time) i forget what its called though.
 
Myshkin said:
Not to negate Scottish or Welsh (or Manx and Cornish, at a stretch) national pride; they're both equally valid and admirable. They both emerged from resistance to the waves of invasion / colonisation
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If 'waves of resistance' means being pushed to the (literal) margins then, yeah. Wales and Cornwall - the emboldened bits both come from OE 'walh' meaning foreigner or stranger. Strangers in their own land. Yeah, I'd be a Welsh nationalist if I was born and bred in Caernarfon. Invest the Prince of Wales there (who, incidentally, can never be an Englishman, it's the law) then don't even give them a railway station?
 
brimz said:
Some shite comes out yer mouth sometimes . I am a fiercely Proud Bathonian had you not noticed & the West Country in general is a special place .
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Somebody told me you were all just scrumpy-drinking wanksters.

StoneHappyMonday said:
If 'waves of resistance' means being pushed to the (literal) margins then, yeah. Wales and Cornwall - the emboldened bits both come from OE 'walh' meaning foreigner or stranger. Strangers in their own land.
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Wallonia too. Even Walsall, strangely enough!

Didn't I teach you that? :D
 
This is good. Were all thinking the same thing. England is not as united as Wales. Although even Wales has a definate North South divide. Ahhh i cant remember that thing about pride of town, turning into pride of region, turning into pride of country, depending how far away from home you are. Someone articulated it perfectly. My memory is so shit. I could have impressed you all if i only i could remember how it goes.

SHM : I dunno the exact definition of intellectual, but I'd say you are the most fiercly intelligent person on EADD. tHERES TONS OF CLEVER PEOPLE HERE, BUT YOUR INTELLIGENCE HAS A STINGING FEROCITY. Apparently John Lydon is regarded in the same way. At least thats what Geldof said in his auto biog.
 
Ceres said:
british people can be fucking arrogant when they are in other countries, it's horrendous sometimes watching people behave like utter morons when they are on holiday. fucking embarassment
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True.

I've mentioned it before, one of the boys on holiday with us years ago, in Ibiza, walked in to a shop & asked the guy "Do you sell fags & cairy-oot mate?" obviously the Spanish cunt doesn't understand him so "FAGS! CAIRY-OOT!" Fucking moron.

Even if the guy spoke perfect English he wouldn't have had a clue what that clown was on about.
 
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