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Recently, I cannot enjoy pot at all

oxyaddict05

oxyaddict05

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So, I am a daily pot smoker. Been smoking pretty much every day for the last couple years. I only toke up in the evening, and always have had a very low tolerance. I literally only take the tiniest of bowls to get where I want, to the point where an 1/8th lasts me a month. And this is when smoking every day.

I had a panic attack 2 weeks ago after smoking pot, and ever since then, smoking -even the tiniest bit (less than my normal tiny amount), gives me very uncomfortable heart palpitations, chest tightness, and anxiety. Literally every time.

I took several days off and smoked a tiny bit last night - same thing. I had those physical anxiety symptoms in my chest for several hours.


Has this happened to anyone else? I believe the stuff I have is a very high quality sativa (typically I enjoy indicas). I cannot tell if it is anxiety related, or heart related, since pot has the potential to affect both. But if this is just what pot does to me now, I cannot use it anymore.

Any thoughts or experiences would be much appreciated.

P.S. Sorry mods, I completely missed the mega anxiety thread. Feel free to merge.
 
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It could have drawn out a anxiety disorder....don't know tho....You sound like you basically to the point where pot gives the reverse effect and sorry to say but maybe your pot smoking days are over. I had this happen in 06 and I have never been able to enjoy pot again. It's like when you smoke, you get this fear that your going to have a panic attack like you did right? If you can move past that experience then you will be able to but like I said And I ain't trying to be a downer/ Pot maybe giving you it's bad side effects/



http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/679288-Is-it-the-weed
 
try a super high dose like like some og wax thats like 87%thc. i have had friends that had your problem and thats how they fixed it.
 
i find i can smoke high potency derivatives like wax or oil and not have the same issue but still get the same issue if i smoke even just a tiny bit too much cannabis.

the best i can do is 1 small hit which does nothing basically. If i go for 3-4 hits, then bam, anxiety. It's just something that happens to a good percentage of us over time for some reason; it'd be nice if they'd do a study on what the fuck changed in our brains. I miss being a big stoner.

smoking a pure indica helps a lot but if you don't have medical access, it's kind of hard to consistently get the right strain, unless you grow it. Those sativas just send my mind racing.
 
Thanks for the replies.

Yes it is frustrating..... Pot was always such a benign and pure-fun thing. I always get paranoid on sativas, so maybe that is the problem? Or maybe it is just to strong. I can't believe I am saying this, but maybe crappy weed would be better.....

How am I supposed to finish Skyrim without being stoned :( lol

Well, last night I took a tiny hit, and no problem at all...... but maybe I should just put it down and not worry about it?
 
i personally prefer the shittiest weed you can find lol that's the only way i can enjoy it. Of course around here everyone is selling the highest potency strains they can get, which sucks, the odd time i can get a nice indica but it's so rare that i just don't bother getting stoned anymore. Maybe one day when i can get medical access to a high CBD strain i'll start up again. Definitely avoid sativa or sativa dom strains, that's what is causing the issue, as well as strains high in THC, they'll set your anxiety off every time. Smoking shitty brick weed would probably be best, and it's cheaper so win win there.

It does suck when it comes to video games and movies, that's one thing i really miss. Instead i use psychedelics to enjoy certain films, as for games, well stimulants seem to fill the void. Pretty sad that i can no longer use cannabis like i used to, i was a dedicated stoner, even a stoner activist but now that it's starting to become accepted and even legalized, i can't even smoke it! what bullshit lol. I had a friend come over and smoke bag after bag off my volcano while i took one hit, i used to out smoke everyone i knew.
 
A lot of long term habitual smokers seem to end up with the issue that smoking gives them intense anxiety and panic attacks, you might be one of them. I wouldn't write off cannabis just yet though, as I understand it sativas typically have less CBD than indica's and CBD has been known to reduce the anxiety inducing effect that THC is sometimes associated with. I seem to recall some study from years ago where high dose THC administered IV on its own caused paranoia and anxiety but when administered with CBD it was not. For this reason trying an indica or otherwise CBD heavy strain may solve your problem. Other people have suggested cannabis concentrates, I have never heard that suggested before but it does make sense to me as I do believe concentrates also typically have a higher amount of CBD than flowers (including indicas). I doubt this would apply to concentrates made exclusively from pure sativa strains so bear that in mind.

If switching your green to a more indica dominant type doesn't fix your problem then concentrates just might, however in your position I would definitely try indica smoke first. Both for the financial aspect but also given your tolerance I can imagine it could be hard not to smoke too much when you smoke like .1 of green per day and concentrates can be several times more potent.
 
My personal experience with this, was several years ago, when I started to get intense paranoia and physical anxiety symptoms, to the point that I was audio hallucinating my family and neighbours talking about my smoking, and spending half an hour at a time listening at the door or out the window. However, I continued to smoke everyday and eventually after around a month, I was enjoying my highs fully again. I now have not had anything of this nature happen to me for years.
I don't believe that it has anything much to do with the weed itself. My theory on how it happened to me, is that the habitual cannabis smoking experience changes progressively over time. When I first started smoking, it was my little well hidden secret that I would get suuuuuuper baked most nights. An experience akin to a timeless euphoric psychedelic experience. Over time, it subtly started to dull, until I was noticing that music was no longer sounding 3D, I was no longer immersed in television shows, food no longer tasted particularly awesome. I still loved it, but the novelty was all gone. I reckon it could be that the anticipation and novelty all shape the cannabis high and make it euphoric initially. It's like turning on the tv after work, vs watching a movie you've been anticipating all year. The more I kept at it, the more it got boring, and the more depressed I was getting about not having an ultimate high anymore, as well as the fact that I wasn't willing to give it up.
I found myself smoking more and more trying to get higher, which paradoxically caused me to get less high, due to my tolerance. I was literally buying 3 Gs a day, smoking a 2G joint (two king papers) in the afternoon after college, and a gram of bong rips at night. My head was not in a good place about my smoking. My highs had gotten SHITE. Paranoid, anxious and unmotivated. The only benefit was physical relaxation, but meanwhile my thoughts were rampant. I still did it everyday, and eventually, I began to lessen my smoking, rationing myself to 2 bongs afternoon and 3-4 at night. This method really only required a gram a day, so I was spending much less. This made me feel better about my smoking. Soon after, My family became more comfortable with my smoking(and my sisters) and now it is accepted completely. This too, took away some of the edge. Lastly, I began to realise that at it's core, MJ is an enhancer, and will simply enhance whatever mood you're in. I realised that I had been going into sessions with a bad mind-set and that if I truly relaxed, reminded myself that no one usually cares, that nothing "bad" can happen, and that ultimately, the only way anyone would know I was high, was if I worried about it and overcompensated. Just relaxing and not focusing on trying to look sober is the best way to pull it off.
It was all ultimately mind over matter, and once I realized that it was all in my head, I realized I alone could manipulate the experience to resemble whatever I wanted. I think, that once you're familiar with weed's effects, the experience is solely one of perspective. If you can convince yourself to enjoy the experience, you will, if you smoke at a moment when you're not sure about it, then your regret about not enjoying your "high" will cause you to have the weed version of a bad trip. On a psychedelic, the wrong situation causes a bad trip. On weed, it simply causes a not very enjoyable time.
A good example of this would be smoking before, vs smoking after work. If I have a pile of housework in front of me and I smoke before I do it, it won't be enjoyable, as i'll be focusing on how much work I have to do and how unmotivated I am because i'm high and wasting time. If I smoke after doing the work, the weed will enhance the satisfaction of a job well done, and allow me to unwind after some hard work.
Catching my drift fellas?
Repeating the cycle of going into experiences with the same mindset causes a flashback type effect of giving the same high each time. Nowadays I go in with a positive eager mindset, and therefore i'm "flashed" to a positive high.
 
IMO, the people claiming it's the potency of the weed or the strain are wrong. During a bad period with weed, the strain made no difference with me, from chronic to brick, it was shit. If you could enjoy strong weed before, you can now. It's a question of mindset.
 
I've also had this in the past, OP. A few years ago, I had a panic attack and since then always had panic attacks/headaches when I was high and I hated it. I think it wasn't the weed though, I was having some issues with myself. Maybe you have some things you have to work out personally? Anyways, I had to take a long break last year. Ended up not smoking for 5 months and ever since, I can really enjoy weed again. Time might heal it or it might not, but I think the most important thing is that you're happy when you're gonna smoke and that you don't think too much about it, because believe it or not, it's probably just a psychological thing.
 
I have good news to report =D

The last few days have been perfect. I started smoking a very small amount the second day after I posted this, and had no problem. Yesterday I started small again (and I mean small: to the point where there was hardly any smoke), and nothing bad. So I smoked a little more, nothing bad. So I smoked a little more. Again, nothing bad. :D

Then I got high for real, and once again, nothing bad. I did get a little paranoid, but that is normal for me. Actually, it wasn't bad at all. After experiencing those very concerning physical anxiety symptoms, what's a little paranoia gonna hurt? I would even go as far as to say that the paranoia effected me significantly less than usual, since I was comparing it to the very real physical symptoms of a panic attack.

I can handle paranoia, it's the physical symptoms of anxiety that so closely resemble heart problems that tripped me out. And now I can handle paranoia even better because experience is an exercise in comparison, and plain ol' paranoia is comparatively benign.

Skyrim, here I come:)

P.S. Thanks for the all the advice folks. Good things to consider.
 
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I read your long-ass post. Typically, I don't read the posts in this format; however, your post was very good and it described my attitude towards weed perfectly. Well done.
 
Yes this has happened to me. I smoked for 10 years. I had to stop because I could not enjoy the feeling of being high. I also had started my pill habit around that time. I think I enjoyed the opiates so much more that, in comparison, weed was not strong enough to relax me anymore. If you're feeling like this lately when you've been smoking, jus take a break. Try to enjoy it again in the future. It's hard to stop/lower anxiety after you smoke. It's a horrible feeling.
 
Did this happen after you got a new bag? Maybe this is a different strain? Get some different and see if there is something in that strain bothering you. Most likely that's the case.
 
If you have the time my suggestion is to smoke during the day. smoking at night you get super tired. For me personally if I smoke in the day shit is like 100x intense and funny and you truly enjoy your high. Also if you have been smoking the same strand I suggest a different one, after a long time of smoking the same kind you body gets used to it. But that is my suggestion for you sir :D
 
I also think you should take a 2 week break if it ends up happening again. As a sun up/sun down smoker I do the tolerance break often to keep myself nice and baked. If I dont get high off 1 hit, its back to the penalty box for 2 weeks. Also, you get high like you did the first time when you return, it is awesome (I make and manipulate songs in my head, surrender to the munchies... I swear I was even having CEVs one day awhile back just zoning to some music, years before I ever did acid.)

Hopefuly it was just the strain, and youre back with all of us on Cloud 9.
 
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