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Okay ever since the summer of 06...Weed makes me very anxious and gives me very VERY strange thoughts. Thoughts like I'm at God's Judgment and about to be sent to hell type of thoughts....No kidding....It makes my OCD spike and the anxiety I feel is soooooo awful. When I take half a hit and thats all I get this rush and then my brain floods with all these negative thoughts.....And me being a faith person it doesn't help as my conscience kills me about it. But anyway what I'm trying to say is....could the weed that I have tried atleast the fifty times I did it since 06 just have nasty chemicals in it or is it due to me having a cannabis psychotic disorder. I have been thru a meth induced psychosis that lasted seven months.....So there may be alot of damage there to where I just can't smoke it anymore and have to accept it.
 
This is a VERY common phenomenon, but nobody seems to know what causes it. My theory is that a sort of "allergy" or sensitivity develops after repeated use, causing unwanted side effects in some people.

I had to quit weed for this very reason. Just started back up with small amounts of edibles after a 4-year break. Seems to work better than smoking, which hits you all at once. Try using much smaller amounts and see how it works.
 
Hi Sonic,
I used to be able to smoke weed all the time with no ill effects. After I took a couple year break, I noticed even small amounts would make me feel strange. Like my heart would race after one or two hits. Also the invasive thoughts you mentioned (not like judgment from God or anything) For instance, I would try and watch a film or something on tv and my mind would not let me absorb what was happening.

Like, I would start thinking about something and it turned into a real big thing playing over again and again in my mind. I would over-analyze trivial shit that normally would not get a second thought. Maybe it's my bipolar thing getting worse or OCD. I don't know but it just got harder to enjoy with all these unwanted thoughts that I couldn't control.
 
While we haven't fully identified the exact mechanism of action of THC; it seems most likely to me that THC works very similar to a stimulant. Increased heart rate, increased focus, increased anxiety, vasodilation, and bronchodilation are classic signs that a very large amount of Norepinephrine is being released. THC more than likely affects more than just Norepinephrine, but we don't need brain scans to show what we feel.
 
Weed evokes in us feelings and thoughts that we aren't aware of even being part of the human experience. They don't teach about these things in schools, most parents don't have personal experience of these things and to top it all, most of us experiencing these things have great difficulty making sense out of them. I would argue that, for a big part it is this lack of understanding that makes us feel anxious. Weed opens doors in your mind, behind these doors are sometimes very complex things, so complex it takes a great deal of time to understand them and integrate them as a constructive and meaningful part of your experience as a human being (after all, you ARE experiencing them). When you open doors at a too fast pace, you get overwhelmed and confused with all the information, resulting in anxiety, fear, possibly anger, all kinds of negative emotions. It's a sign that you should slow down a bit and try to make sense out of what you have learned so far, to meaningfully and rationally consolidate everything.

To make matters even more complicated, some people who open these doors fail to understand what is behind them so profoundly (not their fault though) that they simply don't see those complex things at all, therefore they aren't overwhelmed by them. This creates lot's of confusion when people start saying what weed does and doesn't do.
 
T. Cal, I do too go thru the thought looping. Like it just magnifies everything. To a point where it is no longer peacful.....The more I grow up I become more aware of my life here and on earth. I'm not trying to preach, what I am saying is that my mortality becomes more apparent and it never used to. I used to be able to smoke weed with no bad side effects. I just know I have a underlyning disorder that it just draws out.

And yes weed gives me those thoughts.
 
SwampFox56 said:
While we haven't fully identified the exact mechanism of action of THC; it seems most likely to me that THC works very similar to a stimulant. Increased heart rate, increased focus, increased anxiety, vasodilation, and bronchodilation are classic signs that a very large amount of Norepinephrine is being released. THC more than likely affects more than just Norepinephrine, but we don't need brain scans to show what we feel.
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Yes we have... delta-9-THC is a CB1 partial agonist. Although it may have additional pharmacodynamics.. its activity at CB1r's are responsible for the majority of THC's psychologically observed effects.
 
When it stopped being a good experience for me, in a similar way to the OP, I just stopped smoking it. Occasionally eating it, had different effects. Its just time to move on now I guess.
 
We know delta-9-THC & all psychoactive cannabinoids are so safe b/c they are either a. partial agonists at CB1 receptors; or b. inactive at recreational doses.


We also know the myriad of other synthetic cannabinoids (e.g., JWH-210) are potent anxiogenic substances, as they are full agonists rather than partial agonists like THC (& less safe.. not particularly in a physical sense; but in a psychological sense. I know I used JWH-210 once & will never do so again!).


...That's why cannabis tends to be less anxiogenic; although after extended use... i too found that the positive effects decreased (that was years ago, though) while the negative effects increased.
 
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If you're trying to ask is smoking pot bad in god's eyes, personally I say no. In the bible it says nothing about drugs it just says not to have idols, which if weed is you idol then yes this is a sin. At the end of the day pot isn't gonna hurt you, liberals and brainwashed government minds want you to think it is
 
um most liberals/progressives believe in legalizing cannabis dude. Either that or they're actually under the influence of it! =D


If you're using the "holy bible" to mediate your life i'd like to ask you, do you also believe in Santa clause? Seriously though, if you need a book written by nomadic goat herders (w/ their ideas within originally formulated by desert-wondering-illiterates) to derive your morals... to mediate your daily behavior... to stop you from raping, murdering, & pillaging... well, in my opinion, you have some major issues to contend with.


Doing something out of fear of being punished or for reward (i.e. afterlife) is a fucking SELFISH act. Doing something b/c it isn't harmful and/or the right thing to do (based upon what you'd want to be done upon you) is intrinsically unselfish.
 
maybe they were always in your head and weed just released them into your conscious

when people say it makes them paranoid I usually respond with "about what?"

FnX basically said the same thing a few posts up now that im reading through
 
im sorry u guys feel that from gods plant i get happy laughing and bent but i take 8mg ssuboxone-3-5mg of klonopin and weed 1 gram to 5 grams a day if i ever feel that way ill bust the bong
 
its not "GOD'S PLANT" :X fuck's sake.. if anything, it's a geological plant... thereof dependent upon UV rays for its "food"/energy, via solar rays. So get on your knees & worship the "mother-earth" & the sun if you're insistent upon attributing existence to some invisible bullshit diety.

To quote Richard Dawkins:
its good to be open minded, but not so open minded your brain falls out
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trust objective evidence; (not subjective, pseudo-spritual, drug-induced feelings of "god".. or the fucking easter bunny for all i care). Objectivity is what our modern scientific institutions are built upon.. which gives you & everyone else modernity, computers, & our fancy fucking tablets & smart phones.

Don't mind me =D just an atheist/anti-theist posting in forum where people condone their use of substances not by logic, but by the existence of some stupid, never-observed deity... oh yea, seeing/feeling "god" while under the influence of clonazepam (klonopin) & cannabis, or any other psychoactive substance, doesn't count!
 
AlphaOdure said:
Yes we have... delta-9-THC is a CB1 partial agonist. Although it may have additional pharmacodynamics.. its activity at CB1r's are responsible for the majority of THC's psychologically observed effects.
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I'm fully aware of that. What I was refering to was the fact that we don't know to what extent the cannabinoids receptors have on the human Central Nervous System. This is the same case with the sigma receptors.

The reason why I said that we will probably find out that THC is stimulant like in the future is because we will find out that by agonizing CB1, The CNS also releases Dopamine and Norepinephrine, Ect..

For years we "knew" that Nicotine binds to, and agonizes Nicotinic Acetylcholine receptors. be we didn't find out until the late 80's that by doing so, Nicotine would therefore indirectly agonize Endorphins, Dopamine, Histamine, Norepinephrine, Epinephrine, etc...
 
treezy z said:
weed makes me paranoid as fuck, i'll only smoke when i'm drunk and on benzos.
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It's strange that it's so individual, I'll smoke through benzo and opiate withdrawal...

I used to get anxiety from weed way back when I started smoking it, however 2008 I was on probation and couldn't smoke so I smoked alot of JWH-073, after that I never got anxiety from weed again. My guess is it's because it raised my tolerance alot, making me able to smoke as much as I wanted without getting insanely high on 2 hits.

@all of you who get anxiety: have you guys tried smoking less? I mean just take one hit and wait a minute or two and see what happens and go from there.
 
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