EADD Pirate (mephedrone, 4-MMC) Megathread XII v. Yeeeeaaaarrrrghhh Me Hearties!

[ColtDan]

1) Gives me a horrific comedown most ot the time - 3 days minimum, and I start thinking that I'll never go back to normal, and that I'll quit everything forever. Horrid. I'm so not one of the lucky ones who don't have a comedown
2) I have a demanding Monday to Friday job, dealing with people most of the time, need stamina, good mood and all my marbles

Can relate to this, ive had some belting comedowns off the stuff, serious struggle

 

[mrmephedrone]

same here colt dan, I've had my fair share off bad comedowns off it, altho I've had some enjoyable 1s too, Wednesday night past was on rock stuff very good strong buzz of it, then Saturday night had indian shard, cant decide what I like best , rock is more fuzzy buzz, the shard I have at the moment is very good also long lasting loved up horny as fuck meph. I'm stuck for choice. Plantfood

 

[Mailmonkey]

the shard I have at the moment is very good also long lasting loved up horny as fuck meph. I'm stuck for choice. Pirate

Shard wins every time!

Also, corrected your typo, in bold. Won't be infracting you for it this time.

 

[eithne]

same here colt dan, I've had my fair share off bad comedowns off it, altho I've had some enjoyable 1s too, Wednesday night past was on rock stuff very good strong buzz of it, then Saturday night had indian shard, cant decide what I like best , rock is more fuzzy buzz, the shard I have at the moment is very good also long lasting loved up horny as fuck meph. I'm stuck for choice. Plantfood

I'm pretty sure I was on the same rock stuff last week, absolutely fucking miserable comedown, usually get the shard stuff. And on fuck all, probably only took about 200mg over the night, I'm the first to admit I'm a bit of a lightweight. I'd a deadly night admittedly and after I was grand, just physically exhausted like I usually am, until I went and had a nap and when I got up I just felt like I'd been hollowed out emotionally. First time I've ever experienced that, like how I've always heard people describing a comedown. Wasn't right until about two days later. Never got that on the other meph I've had, just been knackered after. It's sort of put me off it, even considering taking a break from anything, drink/drugs. Shardy stuff next time for me I think.

 

[ColtDan]

yeah feeling empty, lethargic, casovastiction, anxious, its got the worst comedown ive ever experienced, some people dont seem to get that bad comedowns off it but the pre ban comedowns were seriously nasty

 

[Bearlove]

Cayenne pepper is great for cardiovascular constriction (among other things) - if you can stomach it then half a teaspoon (more if your a chili head) in warm water and drink it. Can increase your body temperature, make you sweat a bit

 

[JohnnyVodka]

Can relate to this, ive had some belting comedowns off the stuff, serious struggle

Yah, I'd only do meph now if I have a long weekend (like 3 days to recover) and even then only 1g (probably).

 

[Safrolette]

Can relate to this, ive had some belting comedowns off the stuff, serious struggle

Yah, I'd only do meph now if I have a long weekend (like 3 days to recover) and even then only 1g (probably).

I'm not doing the mistake of doing it at the start of a holiday or of a long weekend again!
At least going back to work, in a sober social setting, and having things to do on the Monday after a Saturday afternoon fest is a welcome distraction from the suicidal thoughts... how bad is that?! Suppose getting back to a normal sleeping/eating/working routine speeds up the recovery.
Would love to know how come that after a session some people (e.g. Mailmonkey) have an afterglow while other unlucky mortals (e.g. ColtDan, JohnnyVodka and me) find themselves in the pits of a very dark comedown... Interesting stuff.

 

[Dr_Robotnik]

I was thinking back to the second time I took pirate I'd just bought 10g and I took 2 x just under 250mg bombs, with a 20-30mg line after each bomb and managed to come down and sleep after, leave the rest alone. And I'd say yea afterglow summed it up nicely. It was like that for ages even doing 2.5g in bombs/lines one night at a party (10g between us) and still no comedown only afterglow.

How can that be? Last 20 times I've done it last of which was a couple months ago now I always end up dying after for a few days. I'm wondering is it cos it's always sniffed like coke now? Think I'll try the MM dosing schedule of plugging a big dose first before any lines, it's the racking it from the start coz it doesn't last you end up whacking too much too quick then feeling like shit after.

Actually been itching for some lately, pretty sure I can get stuff that is actually 4-MMC just now. It was a post on here by Urbain about taking a big line and going "YAAARGH" that sparked the temptation :D

EDIT: also the name "Pirate" does suit it better than any of the shitty media names and also makes it seem strangely more appealing as does most of this thread lol.

 

[ColtDan]

Yeah does seem odd, the stuff has ruined me many times... heart palps, anxious, depressed, lethargic, cardiovasular stuff, at working with the only thing on my mind "fuck all this, whats the point, walk out go home curl up in bed" kinda stuff, heavy. but i struggle on through then after a couple days i feel alright, the weekend arrives and there i am, getting drunk and hoofing meph, having the best time of my life feeling amazing, jaw flying, chatting, dancing, eyes wide, feeling the music. incredible. then repeat. although i havent gotten on it for ages now, eventually broke the cycle

speaking of afterglows, to start off with i felt amazing for days after, knowing id had such a good weekend etc no negative effects. until after a month or so, i did it friday and saturday night, then sunday i was rough-ish, then monday i felt so heavy like i had the flu, felt so fucked, at work thinking wtf is going on why am i feeling like this... then i thought "ahh this must be what a comedown is like... etc. then 3 years later i stopped my weekend sessions

 

[Safrolette]

Yeah does seem odd, the stuff has ruined me many times... heart palps, anxious, depressed, lethargic, cardiovasular stuff, at working with the only thing on my mind "fuck all this, whats the point, walk out go home curl up in bed" kinda stuff, heavy.

Worst thing of all for me is when on the third day I start thinking that I'll feel like that for the rest of my life, so REAL.
From "Yeaaaaargh" to "Aaaargh", indeed

 

[Mailmonkey]

this never ever happens to me.

 

[Safrolette]

this never ever happens to me.

Yes we know that, but why...?! It amazes me. There must be a logical reason. Your genetic make-up, the way your braincells recover, your mental attitude? Maybe if found out it would explain why someone is more prone to depression that others.
Mind, if I didn't have such a bad comedown I'd be at it most weekend, which wouldn't be a good thing at all, I may end up with a worrying addiction

 

[ellisdee25]

yeah feeling empty, lethargic, casovastiction, anxious, its got the worst comedown ive ever experienced, some people dont seem to get that bad comedowns off it but the pre ban comedowns were seriously nasty

If were talking what the worst comedown is I have to give an honorary mention to propylhexedrine aka hexahydromethamphetamine, its found in the states in over the counter nasal inhalers. Such a brutal comedown, up for 72 hours just feeling like death, didnt know comedowns could reach these lows

 

[g1zzl3]

Been sailing yee old pirate ship ahoy matey for the last 16hours or so, Made a start on a HUGE D&B track in Logic so I guess thats something productive from it!
YO HO HO AND A BOTTLE OF RUM

 

[been head]

I had a silly binge last week from tuesday untill saturday, did about 10grams. Sunday night i had a brain zap for the first time ever and it scared the shit out of me, monday night just as i was falling to sleep my arm just randomly shot out into the air and made my head shake. Last night i was fine. Has any one else had this before? is it something serious?

 

[JohnnyVodka]

I'm not doing the mistake of doing it at the start of a holiday or of a long weekend again!
At least going back to work, in a sober social setting, and having things to do on the Monday after a Saturday afternoon fest is a welcome distraction from the suicidal thoughts... how bad is that?!

For me, the comedown is more anxiety (worse if you have to be around people) and maybe tiredness due to skipping a night's sleep (so the more days off to catch up the better). If you're sat just at home, you can have a few drinks too to take the edge off.

 

[Mr D Matukas]

No comedown... Usually once iv'e finished my stash... which would usually only be 2g a night, i would be glad.. because after 2g i am exhausted.. then i usually just wait and do something until I sober up.. and I can then manage to sleep well , never really had any comedowns, iv'e probably spend £2000 on 'pirate', last time i properly did it was 8 months ago.. and now I have basically sobered up properly... I will do it again eventually.. but at least I don't have to dread the comedowns... because I don't have one

 

[Mental Kenny]

Mephedrone on its own was never too bad for comedowns for me, when combined with methylone I did get some massive suicide tuesdays, but I get that from methylone alone too.

 

[ColtDan]

I had a silly binge last week from tuesday untill saturday, did about 10grams. Sunday night i had a brain zap for the first time ever and it scared the shit out of me, monday night just as i was falling to sleep my arm just randomly shot out into the air and made my head shake. Last night i was fine. Has any one else had this before? is it something serious?

Nah never had brain zaps from meph which is odd as it got me much more spangled than MDMA, MD would brain zap me to shite if i abused it, especially if i sniffed it. i also recall getting sleep paralysis more from MD