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Why is life so unpleasant?

I agree with Foreigner as well.

If you realise your life of "suffering" is actually your life situation. Your living, right now. Why not have the drive to improve or accept yourself? You can, you have the drive to keep on suffering and your still living through it. Why not try putting all that effort into flipping the situation on its head, see how you can change it or improve it instead of dwelling on it.

You can be whatever you want Be. There will be bad and good times, but we all need to try and remember that deep inside all of us everything is fine. Situations will come and go but deep down everything is untouched. Find inner peace with yourself and try to enjoy the ride. I believe life is an over used word. We are living, no matter where you are or who you are. We are being.

I am in no way where I would like to be but I’m doing okay, I’m still here. I know every time a bad situation or even a terrible one comes along I’ll get past it even at the times when I think I can’t. I try and take a step back look my situation and make a decision based on what’s best for me and others around me.

All this is obviously harder said than done when emotions like anger come into play. I know this from my own experience.




bryan21 said:
"thats the way she goes boys, sometimes she goes sometimes she doesn't." ~ ray
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Life is so unpleasant because of how people made the world to be
 
Flickering said:
This universe could easily be heaven. Instead, for whatever reason, we go through our lives feeling, for one reason or another, unresolved and frustrated and afraid. We follow one mania or another rush or whatever poison appeals to us, just to feel alive. There's so much hurt but it seems like there doesn't need to be. Why aren't we all living in an eternal state of bliss and wholeness?

What do YOU think?

For my part, I see the universe as a constantly unfolding process that's so much greater than our subjective views on 'good' or 'bad', which are themselves objectively just elements of yet another process. No I don't believe in bad karma or original sin or that we're here to learn some lesson in spiritual autonomy, or that the bad is somehow necessary to balance the good. Various entities have given me an answer I could accept, a cause for suffering in this plane, if I believed they existed and they weren't part all just in my imagination. Oh well.
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Nietzche would say that the value of life cannot be judged, atleast not by the living, for we are biased. He would also say that if you think that life sucks, that just means that you suck and you're blaming it on life.
 
alasdairm said:
10% of life is what happens to you 'objectively'. the other 90% is how you choose to deal with it...

alasdair
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That's a very first world way of looking at things.


So I suppose when some 13 year old girl in the Congo is raped, her brother murdered, and her genitals mutilated by the barrel of a gun, that's only 10% of her problems, and the other 90% is how she looks at the whole situation?


Good to know.
 
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That's a very first world way of looking at things.


So I suppose when some 13 year old girl in the Congo is raped, her brother murdered, and her genitals mutilated by the barrel of a gun, that's only 10% of her problems, and the other 90% is how she looks at the whole situation?


Good to know.
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truth happens.
 
what i'm saying is that i believe, for the most part, that happiness or misery is a choice.

i've met people who have had (what many others might consider to be) miserable, unlucky lives and who have a very positive outlook. i've also met people who have (what many others might consider to be) very comfortable lives and are miserable. my argument is that ones response to events shapes ones happiness (or otherwise) to a greater extent than the events themselves.

your hypothetical example isn't very helpful, to be honest. for every imaginary case you craft to strengthen your argument, i can just make one up to counter it. generally speaking, that doesn't really make for a very useful discussion.

but i'll answer your question. maybe your 13 year old girl in the congo is happy that she was not murdered and that she's still alive. but we'll never know as she doesn't exist...

alasdair
 
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alasdairm said:
what i'm saying is that i believe, for the most part, that happiness or misery is a choice.

i've met people who have had (what many others might consider to be) miserable, unlucky lives and who have a very positive outlook. i've also met people who have (what many others might consider to be) very comfortable lives and are miserable. my argument is that ones response to events shapes ones happiness (or otherwise) to a greater extent than the events themselves.

your hypothetical example isn't very helpful, to be honest. for every imaginary case you craft to strengthen your argument, i can just make one up to counter it. generally speaking, that doesn't really make for a very useful discussion.

but i'll answer your question. maybe your 13 year old girl in the congo is happy that she was not murdered and that she's still alive. but we'll never know as she doesn't exist...

alasdair
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About to watch the Heat game so not a lot of time.


But the hypothetical girl does indeed exist. I based this off of a real example, nothing imaginary about it. I have no idea whether she is happy or not.
 
"its all in your head" is often just a cop-out. its true sometimes, but there most certainly is a lot of pain in this world, and you'd be an arrogant fool to dismiss it as just being a state of mind.
 
And how about schizophrenia? Depression and anxiety and the genetic components and predispositions towards them?


Very little of how we view the world is actually a "choice." Most of our psychological makeup and our predisposition towards being generally happy, or generally miserable, is indeed predetermined by factors far out of our control, for which we have only marginal influence over.
 
alasdairm said:
^ if i was saying "it's all in your head" then i'd be inclined to agree. but i'm not.

alasdair
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semantics.

you said "90% is how you choose to deal with it...", not "all" i suppose

alasdairm said:
my argument is that ones response to events shapes ones happiness (or otherwise) to a greater extent than the events themselves.
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this is perhaps true, if you mean that the actions you take after any bad event shape your mood more than the events themselves. this is mostly due to the new events being closer to the chronological "now" though. your general tone makes it seem like you are referring to more to perception than action, though.
 
We don't truly have control over anything. Our daily lives and our destinies are fated. Free will is an illusion.
 
because A makes life shit for B who makes life shit for C ... who makes life shit for Z
 
someday

when cold fusion has made energy a non-issue

and robots are advanced enough to cater to our every whim

there's going to be some prickheads in the government that are like "wellllllll people should still have to do something"

and they're going to invent pointless tasks that we are required to do

and its going to suck

but 98% of people are going to accept the new pointless reality without question
 
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