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RCs The Methiopropamine N-methyl-1-(thiophen-2-yl)propan-2-amine (MPA) Megathread V2

Damn did you take loads then get arrested or did you manage to smuggle MPA in ? If its the latter then I'm impressed :)

On an unrelated note, i mentioned nothing really positive about EPH in an earlier post, tried again to IV some and i guess i must have missed on my first go because damn it hit me like a train, pretty fun lil rush and some intense stimulation but underlying nausea, sweating and worryingly fast heartbeat. Fun but i'm not sure i'll order more I try to keep the minimum of IVable drugs possible for self preservation.

Edit- Its worth mentioning that IVing eph leaves me personally well within the blood pressure range considered hypotensive, take care guys.
 
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Samuelg said:
Damn did you take loads then get arrested or did you manage to smuggle MPA in ? If its the latter then I'm impressed :)
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both but the point being the doses where able to keep me up for days straight like nothing, had been up nights before the incident 8(

@lynx @EPH being overrated
you would have to define overrated

i think it has more to do with compulsiveness when use and re dose ing and the dari effects for the subjective individual
TOLERANCE: i always used a scale for most all drugs, but eph reached the point where i dump lines that would have my heart explode in the beginning but can handle it now over and over. moving part to eph thread

my current habit consists of alcohol, benzos, then eph and reset to sleep if needed
 
@DubNaut

Probably because people say they find it very moreish and become overly obsessed with it. Personally I don't find it moreish at all nor in any way recreational, or productive. Only when alcohol is drank with it then it becomes REALLY REALLY GOOD!! It's like a completely different drug with booze. :)

Sometimes MPA makes me feel so unemotional. My facial expression in the mirror looks like Michael Myers's mask.
 
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MountEdenDubstep said:
What is this drug used for in the medical world?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this is used in medicine.
In my opinion it could be used to treat narcolepsy . Or just being lazy. But there are too many side effects.

But still, I like this drug. It numbs whole body and gives this calm pleasant energetic rush. Try 50 or 60 mg line after a long break or in the morning and just WOW! it felt very nice. And by the way, when mixed with alcohol this can be as fun as a night out on some great speed or pills. However it does leave you a very strong insomnia for a long time after effects have passed and you simply shrink your dick to the size of a nut more than anything else.it means it has strong vasoconstriction properties. In my opinion that is MPA's biggest minus. If not that, this drug would be one of the most amazing chemical substances you can consume for fun without being too obvious your "on" something.
 
MountEdenDubstep said:
What is this drug used for in the medical world?
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It isn't, there is currently no actual use nor FDA approval for MPA. There are however some pretty interesting anecdotal reports by people suffering narcolepsy that it minimises their bouts of sleeping with far fewer side effects than their existing medication. Whether thats true or not who knows.

foolsgold said:
warning get teeth checked out dentist sending hospital no fucking about ok
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I don't know what you are saying, i've had no dental issues as far as i can tell, then again i avoid the dentist at all costs. Paying someone to drill teeth isn't something im a fan of
 
going to say same in here as in ehp been to the dentist Tuesday getting sent to hospital to have a growth looked at more to do with smoking i think but i am the guy who does these drugs by th 5g a time so you never know should say in the synthetic noids bit to
 
going to say same in here as in ehp been to the dentist Tuesday getting sent to hospital to have a growth looked at more to do with smoking i think but i am the guy who does these drugs by th 5g a time so you never know should say in the synthetic noids bit to
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You take care bud. :)
 
So I have the option to order some MPA or some Ethylphenidate. It seems most would recommend EPH but I've never liked ritalin as it can make me pretty jittery and tweaked out feeling. I'm looking to use these in low doses as a study aid since stimulant comedowns are not worth the euphoria they give, IMO. Thoughts or comparisons between the two?
 
simple mpa if you're after something funchal over fun vape a little instead of sniffing when needing to top up as well helps you get that rush buzz but is over quick then back to it whereas with sniffing you will just end up sitting there doing more and more
 
lynx2051 said:
EPH is VERY overrated.
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I reckon it affects different people in very different ways. After about 75 hours I feel as euphoric as I did on ecstacy but with no paranoia or other negative symptoms though the first 36 hours aren't that exciting. 48 hours is where it kicks in really. My DOC by far. MPA keeps you awake but lacks euphoria on a par with EPH.
 
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EPH is more selfish than MPA, like diet coke with more mental side effects. MPA is just the instant 'wake up drug' which isn't particularly euphoric, but it's likable for it's huge increase in focus and speediness. It can keep you awake for too long though. I am quite prone to anxiety and MPA has never given me any whatsoever. EPH you have to be very careful with the doses.

MPA does have a few more psychical side effects e.g, feeling cold (vasoconstriction) but has never caused any paranoia like EPH can in larger doses and the comedown can be quite bad if you don't have any downers at hand.
 
Samuelg said:
Yes but you posted that in response to a fair claim that you are clearly highly against MPA and from what i can tell many other stimulants despite your extensive list of compounds you have ingested in large quantities. You then go on to first criticise bluelight for making it difficult to find warnings. From my experience if you type any RC name into google it will throw countless bluelight threads at you which are of both positive and negative nature dependent on the users perception

You then go on to criticise erowid which is a huge and useful resource of harm reduction and best practices for safety before finally criticising two books that are 15 years out of date and were never written to study the long term effects of what was synthesised just the short term, and considering your list of various psycho actives a few of which wouldn't even exist if it weren't for pihkal/tikhal. Perhaps slightly more respect could be shown to the books written and the drugs within tested solely by a guy who has become known as "The godfather of psychedelics" considering he did actually invent your much loved 2-CE.

You seem to be desperate to spread the word of potential long term cardiac problems arising from 5-HT2b stimulation, perhaps due to the side effects you have/are expiriencing from taking several agonists over time and that harm reduction intent is commendable, but you cannot get frustrated at the fact websites and books haven't given you data that simply does not exist regarding MPA's long term/high dose actions on the serotonin receptors and subsequently the heart. Whilst its fair that you are doing it out of the interests of harm reduction, unsubstantiated claims are often worse in the long run for harm reduction of unstudied and unassay'd drugs.

Your claim that 5-ht isn't important is frankly laughable, 5-HT click for wiki IS serotonin, the monamine that is responsible for countless processes and metabolic changes within our bodies. With all due respect your original post was highly contradictory and accusatory of MPA, it may well be a 5-HT2b agonist but it equally may not and until it is proven via testing or standardised double blind clinical trials, which i suspect it never will be then no one will be able to tell you/me/anyone if it is or not.
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I didn't say anything about MPA causing heart valve damage via 5-ht2b agonism. So no, it's not important. I think you didn't read half the words in my sentences, therefore jumbling everything up and completely losing the point.

You seem like a very smart guy, but you obviously didn't read my post(s) correctly for whatever reason. The only thing I was trying to tell people in this thread is that MPA is probably cardiotoxic, and that people shouldn't try to ignore the cardiotoxicity by using other chemicals with it. If you like MPA enough to not care, that's you. I was advising differently, that's me.

Just some friendly advice, read what you're replying to before you type 10 paragraphs in a reply to it. But hey, I know stimulants can cause this kind of behavior, so maybe you should lighten up on the MPA?
 
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