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Opioids Oxycodone ER patent expires April 16th 2013

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Thank god. I would kill for an old school bean, but I'm actually happy they are a thing of the past.
 
Two questions:

1) Doesn't this give Purdue a monopoly on the oxycodone market, even after their patent expired?
2) Are they taking into account how many former oxy users are just going to [continue to] look for dope now?
 
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They aren't banning generics of the new formulation, ie "abuse resistant". Just the original formulation we all love.

As for your second question, it's true that a lot of us were introduced to heroin when these pills became to expensive and non existent. We're fucked, doesn't mean we need to subject the next generation to it.

I see heroin use declining dramatically in the next ten years.
 
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They aren't banning generics of the new formulation, ie "abuse resistant". Just the original formulation we all loved.

Do they need to use the same formulation, or can they come up with their own? Wasn't the coating on the big oxy 80s that you had to remove considered "abuse resistant"? So could companies release generics that are less abuse resistant than the formulation purdue came up with?
 
Do they need to use the same formulation, or can they come up with their own? Wasn't the coating on the big oxy 80s that you had to remove considered "abuse resistant"? So could companies release generics that are less abuse resistant than the formulation purdue came up with?

I believe there will be standards put in place to determine the abuse resistance. I would assume the baseline for resistance will be based off the current oxys out there. No way in hell will the FDA allow abuse able oxys to happen again.

That coating was just a protective coating, nothing more.
 
They aren't banning generics of the new formulation, ie "abuse resistant". Just the original formulation we all love.

As for your second question, it's true that a lot of us were introduced to heroin when these pills became to expensive and non existent. We're fucked, doesn't mean we need to subject the next generation to it.

I see heroin use declining dramatically in the next ten years.

The government needs its idiots. Idiots are indespensable, they drive our taxis, cook our meals...they clean our hotel rooms. If you give them Oxy, they will OD and die because they don't know better and we cannot do that because we cannot live without them. When taxis will drive themselves, when the meals will cook themselves and when the hotel rooms will clean themselves, there will be no need for all these people, so that would be a great time to put oxycodone available over the counter in pure form.

In my opinion, you gotta be an idiot with an IQ under 80 to OD on a milligram dosed pharmaceutical. The government needs to protect idiots like you protect a 5 year old...by ripping the toy from his hands before he hurts himself. We depend on these people in every way so we need to take good care of them.
 
I wonder if there are old-formula oxys outside of the US/Canada. I heard that in South Africa, Quaaludes are a recent problem, those have been off the US pharma market for decades now

The time relased brand name oxycodone (oxygesic) i got last year in europe were easy to crush and snort. Its a shame we dont get opana ove here.
 
The tragedy is that these people are not smart enough to have a moment of relaxation without seriously endangering their life, and so the government needs to ban the substance to save them. Thats like keeping someone locked in jail because as soon as you set him free he sets foot on the red light and gets hit by a truck. I can't imagine what it's like to live like that.
 
Ksa can you site anything showing a correlation between IQ and propensity to be an addict?
 
1) Doesn't this give Purdue a monopoly on the oxycodone market, even after their patent expired?


yes. you can bet your ass there were some backroom dealings that led to this involving purdue and the fda.

Ksa can you site anything showing a correlation between IQ and propensity to be an addict?

I think the opposite is true. you have to be pretty fucking cunning to be able to keep up a 200 mg a day oxy habit for longer than a couple weeks without a script.
 
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Ksa can you site anything showing a correlation between IQ and propensity to be an addict?

Addiction is cool, that's not the problem. People are addicted to alcohol by the millions and no one bans it. The problem is the deaths. Having to burry your loved ones. That's what bans the substance. Death. Yes with alcohol you can get in a car crash and die but again, if you drink and drive your IQ is not high in the first place and it can easely be avoided if you're responsible.

But with oxy it's not a matter of drinking and driving or anything...you take a little too much before bed time and you never wake up. It's as simple as that. You don't have to go out there, you don't have to commit a crime or anything, all you gotta do is fetch too much to the mouth, that's all you gotta do. Fetch to the mouth without calculation. You ask the person how much is 300 x 10..."I don't know". These are those who die.
 
^Oh, I forgot alcohol didn't kill people.

Good point.

Also, I hope you either drive a taxi or cook in a kitchen one day so you realize that people in those positions are not necessarily idiots. In such a case, you'd also realize that some are intellectual elitists, sadly.
 
^Oh, I forgot alcohol didn't kill people.

Good point.

Also, I hope you either drive a taxi or cook in a kitchen one day so you realize that people in those positions are not necessarily idiots. In such a case, you'd also realize that some are intellectual elitists, sadly.

Those examples I gave were meant to emphasize the important role everyone plays in our society, I could have chosen any other occupation.
 
2) Are they taking into account how many former oxy users are just going to [continue to] look for dope now?

Yes, this is part of the problem. The powers that be have invested heavily into global heroin trafficking, and being able to get all the people who weren't going to quit or ready to quit, to go onto heroin, is a huge profit to them.
 
I still don't see a correlation even with OD deaths and IQ. I've had two friends pass from overdoses, these were not dumb people. Your responses are uneducated if not just plain ignorant.

Personal opinions have no place being stated as fact.
 
^Oh, I forgot alcohol didn't kill people.

Good point.

Also, I hope you either drive a taxi or cook in a kitchen one day so you realize that people in those positions are not necessarily idiots. In such a case, you'd also realize that some are intellectual elitists, sadly.

It's also due to the misleading body response that the drug triggers. When you're almost dead, you should be in pain or at least seriously ill. With oxy, when you're almost dead, that's when you're at the peak of your bliss. It's almost as if sex was deadly, like, you can have all the sex you want but you die if you cum...so you basically try to stay on the edge all the time...sooner or later you'll fall over. It's bound to happen.
 
I still don't see a correlation even with OD deaths and IQ. I've had two friends pass from overdoses, these were not dumb people. Your responses are uneducated if not just plain ignorant.

I have never had a friend who died from taking a drug. In fact, I have never had a friend who did drugs. Perhaps you should reconsider your entourage. I don't know how you can come up with 2 real life examples...if you tell the truth, man...you should really find better people to hang with.
 
Could keep this going for a couple pages I'm sure. No use beating a dead horse. This thread is derailing, I'll post again when I learn more about the original topic (New OC formulations).
 
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