Ive personally picked up blotters that I know were 25i nbome (told by person who laid em and showed raw crystals from lab). not very hard to get the amount needed onto a blotter. you can tell when youre holding hits in your mouth and your mouth goes numb and tastes like chemicals. still an awesome trip (some of my friends say they like it better than L for going out to parties and shows). To not believe that RC's are on blotters is just retarded. Everyone knows they are. back in the day it was probably harder to lay proper doses of other chemicals, but nowadays with all the new RC's out there that are active in incredibly low levels, It is just as easy if not easier to dose out.
two people take a dose of 25i. first one keeps it on their tongue, tastes chemicals, numb tongue, tripping balls a little while later. Next person takes it and swallows hit immediately. Barely feels anything all night. Definitely 25i as its barely active when swallowed. Does that sound anything like LSD?
are you experienced with LSD ? are you sure that you know what they real thing feels like? could you differentiate it between other drugs? have you ever gotten a blotter that lasted 16 hours?
well a lot of us on here CAN tell if something isnt real LSD. Taste, come-up, effects, duration... Its pretty easy to tell when youve got a clean legit dose. to assume that all or even the majority of blotter is actually LSD or just nothing at all is pretty stupid and somewhat dangerous.
"taking MDMA pills is russian roulette"
correction, taking ecstasy pills is russian roulette... taking MDMA pills is a sure way to have a great night
another thought... maybe the police are seizing blotters and just assuming that theyre LSD
Ok to sum up you have no proof that RC's are being sold as LSD. "Everyone knows" isnt good enough. "Everyone knew" it was rat poison in the LSD too when i was a kid. I am listening to the rat poison argument again. I have heard all your opinions and i disagree. Nothing about length of trip, or side effects or taste in mouth is going to convince me the world is awash in fake acid when my own experience tells me otherwise and the side effects people describe are just from acid. Posts from people who probably thought their weed was laced 2 years ago is not proof of anything. I have dropped 100s if not a 1000 times over several decades, i dont see i should put any value in the trip reports of people who dont have a clue what acid is. Even people who know acid well will still hold on to beliefs which are untrue, like you can tell dirty acid from sandoz. Acid is powerful and trips can be totally different from each other i know why there is confusion, but the exact same arguments just get recycled and now its not dirty acid or rat poison, its RCs. I have been searching for old blotters pics online and i watched the progression, in 2004 everyone claimed it was amt, then later DOx was the villian, now its nbomes. I think the bromodragonfly hysteria was shorter lived, but that was a good 1 too. All i see over several decades now are peoples opinions to back these "facts" up, but never scientific evidence. Nbomes didnt even exist 10 years ago, but everyone had the exact same "its all rc's" mentality then too. This hysteria started long before nbomes. Sorry the spit/swallow difference you report is not going to change my mind at all.
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=35340
1 microdot out of 62 samples in europe was dox this summer. I am sure, positive actually, that people will say thats a different market than n.america. Anything to keep the myth alive i guess.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_article3.shtml
in 1996 - 2005 it was the same, just low doses of LSD
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-10-02/super-lsd-sparks-drug-warning-in-adelaide/1088158
This is what actually happens when police seize an RC on blotter. They have a giant blow up of the print and have a news conference. Sorry I don't believe that all theses people being busted for acid are getting off two months later because its an RC and the media just conspires with police to cover it all up. Believing that is "retarded". Maybe you think people are getting convicted on fake blotters too? Pretty bad defence that doesnt get that shit tested themselves, sounds like something for the innocence project, you guys could get a nobel prize. I don't think people are aware of the degree of testing done on seized drugs. Where i live the drugs are tested by a government agency, there is not a chance in hell an RC on a blotter would not cause a public health alert. Happens when tainted coke is going around or PMMA in XTC or uncut heroin anything that endangers the public, so why doesnt it happen with all the so called fake acid? They dont just look at the test results and say "oh well". They also moniter hospital admissions, OD's on anything are on their radar. Its not just ignored they investigate and try and find out whats causing it. I am sorry the police just being too lazy to test is not a good answer either. The police would love a fake acid story, they could use it to scare people from taking LSD. Their story about PMMA sure scared me away from xtc, that and the confirmed dead bodies. Why would the police possibly want to keep RC's on blotters a secret when they could use it as an excuse to ask for bigger budgets and further their all street drugs are bad agenda? I had US border patrol take my drivers license at a crossing and scan it and come back grinning and ask me how the LSD was. I have never even had any in my wallet but yet my license was the only one in our groups to test positive for acid and they were totally confident they knew they were right. To suggest police are so far behind that level of technology is silly.
I am still waiting for someone to die from fake acid, or there to be an actual story in the media, or a reliable not bunk police test. I am of course aware people put other stuff on blotters. People put meth, crack and pcp in their own weed too. That doesnt mean you are going to get laced bud on the street. There is a big difference.
There are lots of people on this forum who know their shit about alot of substances, but when it comes to LSD its terrible with misinformation. Anyway I am not endangering anyone by stating i dont believe that RC's on blotters is widespread, i always tell people to take half and then take the other one when you are sure its good. I would never suggest a large dose even when you know it is acid.
Suggesting 25i and LSD are indistinguishable from each other is dangerous too. Saying its easy to lay a sheet evenly with 500 mics of nbomes on each hit is also dangerous. Putting the idea in some kids head that this is possible and an easy way to make money is going to cause them to try it, because they dont think anyone is going to die.
You guys are robbing kids of the knowledge they have dropped acid by encouraging them to think anything unpleasent or different must be an RC.
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