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Posters to Make you Stop Taking E?

The Aus ones always make me laugh because they are based on zero facts. I wouldnt mind so much if they just told the truth.
And the one with the brain holes is just so stupid its not even funny. That myth has been disproved years ago.
 
The holes in the brain one is usually associated with methamphetamine, which yes it is absolute bullshit, its a brain scan showing different acivitiy levels in different areas of the brain. Sometimes I wonder whether the first image "normal brain" was taken whilst the person was undertaking a task that involves a large amount of brain activity and the "meth brain" was taken perhaps on a comedown of a decent dose of meth while the user was doing no brain stimulating task... Just a though. But yes MDMA and Meth use does in short term either reduce blood flow to the front of the brain or reduce the acivity, prefrontal cortex?

Anyway back on topic, they could easily track the number of deaths attributed from ecstasy, alcohol or tobacco related cancer... Theres just no money for the government to be providing safe education on ecstasy use or testing as theyd rather have people spending money, which in turn fills the governments pockets on tobacco and alcohol.
 
Theres just no money for the government to be providing safe education on ecstasy use or testing as theyd rather have people spending money, which in turn fills the governments pockets on tobacco and alcohol.
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This is a very valid point. As a result is this an argument for MDMA becoming legal? As a result the money gained from taxes could be pumped into research, HR, safety etc. Its a dangerous drug yes but if it were legal would it make it safer for people? A very complex debate topic this.

Do you think MDMA being legal is better than this latest idea in NZ legalizing some of the RCs? To me I think this RC idea in NZ is crazy why is Mephodrone or a sythenetic canaboloid safer than the real deal? that in a sense weed and mdma is now tried and tested. Not sure if they can say this about 4-MEO whatever.
 
Folley said:
What they should do is inform people of the Serotonin system, and let them know that MDMA and similar drugs release massive amounts of serotonin, and that ample time is needed after a roll to counteract the inherent neurotoxicity that comes from ingesting a serotonin releasing chemical.



There are plenty of serious risks and complications of taking MDMA... why the fuck do they have to make up these lies?


I mean, shit. The Australian government could ask volunteers on Bluelight to create a poster and we would happily make some amazing HR pieces for free.... how much money do you think they wasted on these pieces of trash?
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Yeah, I agree. And I have to say although we'll likely continue to use E, I am done defending it or recommending it. Even though we are intelligent, professional, responsible individuals (40-somethings with graduate degrees and professional careers), we had a bad experience last weekend (dangerously excessive fluid intake--luckily it wasn't just water).

The fact is E does influence judgement and ability to properly monitor your own body temperature (among other possible dangers). We know the risks and take the risks, but we are a few incidences away from seriously regretting ever getting involved with this drug.
 
Yeah, I agree. And I have to say although we'll likely continue to use E, I am done defending it or recommending it. Even though we are intelligent, professional, responsible individuals (40-somethings with graduate degrees and professional careers), we had a bad experience last weekend (dangerously excessive fluid intake--luckily it wasn't just water).

The fact is E does influence judgement and ability to properly monitor your own body temperature (among other possible dangers). We know the risks and take the risks, but we are a few incidences away from seriously regretting ever getting involved with this drug.
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Hearing this story it amazes me that there is not a poster out there that actually delivers some kind of hard hitting message.

Has anyone actually found a poster that is effective, contains true facts and makes you stop and think?

I searched the internet and could not find one. I also looked at drug information leaflets that were often riddled with inaccurate information.
 
^^ you will struggle to find such a thing. Governments will stick to their 'facts' rather than give accurate information. It's all about persuading the impressionable younger people before they encounter drugs.
 
^^ I didnt think of that but that is a very valid point.

Perhaps these posters before we slate them are designed for a younger audience?

The only issue there is young kids still have mobile phones and they still have google. Take the lab pic for example.

I type into google "ecstasy drain cleaner"

2nd on the list i read this article:

The government would do well to face a few facts themselves before they write these things. Here’s a fact. Kids know a lot more about drugs than they do. And if kids read claims like this on the sides of bus stops they’re not going to take the government’s word for it. They’re going to cross-check with Google. Because that’s what smart, cynical, wired-up kids do with "facts"
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If I was a kid and I read this plus the rest of the article I immediately become not as impressionable as they might like.

You definitely have a point but I think the governments of all countries need to move with the times.

Take the Arab States for example. The whole concept of censorship now with mobile phones is history.
 
futura2012 said:
Perhaps these posters before we slate them are designed for a younger audience?
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Typically when they do posters and ads such as these, it's like other forms of advertising; they will present various ones to focus groups and see which gets the best response as to whether or not they think it would be effective in changing their and/or their peers behaviors or thoughts.

So while these may not be effective with average bluelight members, there may be a significant portion of the population that they feel they would be effective with.
 
^^ I totally agree with you avcpl.

But.. Death is the worst possible scenario. It is ideal scare tactics if the theory proposed is very plausable and likely to happen.

The great problem here and the point really is arm yourself with an internet enabled mobile phone, walk down the street and talk to one of your mates who has tried an E tablet and you quickly discover that the concept of death in this very dramatic way is highly unlikely to happen.

Why did I never try Crack or Heroin? because the truth in that is very real. Obvious high risk.

The problem with ecstasy is the dangers are very subtle. They are very progressive. You are highly unlikely to die when you take it.

As a result the posters become fiction. Ignored and as a result dangerously ineffective.

But worse still they are ineffective about something that ironically does have the potential to be VERY DANGEROUS.
 
futura2012 said:
^^ I totally agree with you avcpl.

But.. Death is the worst possible scenario. It is ideal scare tactics if the theory proposed is very plausable and likely to happen.

The great problem here and the point really is arm yourself with an internet enabled mobile phone, walk down the street and talk to one of your mates who has tried an E tablet and you quickly discover that the concept of death in this very dramatic way is highly unlikely to happen.

Why did I never try Crack or Heroin? because the truth in that is very real. Obvious high risk.

The problem with ecstasy is the dangers are very subtle. They are very progressive. You are highly unlikely to die when you take it.

As a result the posters become fiction. Ignored and as a result dangerously ineffective.

But worse still they are ineffective about something that ironically does have the potential to be VERY DANGEROUS.
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Have you seen the documentary "Ecstasy Rising"? (you can find it easily online). It is about this very point, that if the gov. continues to "cry wolf" and treat every substance the same, people will stop listening altogether and ignore real warnings...
 
Have you seen the documentary "Ecstasy Rising"? (you can find it easily online). It is about this very point, that if the gov. continues to "cry wolf" and treat every substance the same, people will stop listening altogether and ignore real warnings...
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Is that the one with the chick who has all the anxiety problems? Might check it out.

I have been looking again for a poster thats good but cant find one :(
 
most of those posters were funny...but poster 8 was like looking in a mirror lol, down to the blonde hair and hairstyle and slightly disoriented look.
ya live and ya learn tho....
 
squarerootof23 said:
I wouldn't worry about that - kids aren't exactly prone to doing independent research, you know. Just ask any parent trying to get his kid to complete his research project assigned by the teacher at school.
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Yeah, I'm kind of surprised to see people talking about how knowledgeable kids are these days about drugs. I've spoken to may share of kids (psychologist/counselor in public school system) and they didn't know the first thing about them and weren't about to find out. But if one of their friends handed them something they would take it without question...
 
Thought i would bring this thread out the wood work.

I have updated posters 13 - 21

There are some absolute classics here that will hopefully make you laugh :D
 
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Most of these posters are actually factual, but they take the raw parts of the truth and blow them out of proportion. Just like the best way to lie is to tell the truth, but to leave out the parts that lead to the full story. By leaving out tid bits of information they can create an illusion that ecstasy is a monster.

Here's one I made for the hell of it:
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Renz Envy said:
Most of these posters are actually factual, but they take the raw parts of the truth and blow them out of proportion. Just like the best way to lie is to tell the truth, but to leave out the parts that lead to the full story. By leaving out tid bits of information they can create an illusion that ecstasy is a monster.

Here's one I made for the hell of it:
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This is the exact point I was making with the peanut anecdote - there is 0 context and realism behind the posters. Sure, a few people have died from dropping pills labelled as 'Ecstasy' but there is a whole context behind the whole death. Chances are they didn't even take the drug that was claimed to kill them, mixed it with other substances, didn't drink any water, drunk way too much water, actually died from something non-drug related that was just coincidental etc etc.

Why can't we just put out evidence-based posters based solely on research to report the real dangers of drugs an keep the less educated drug users safe.

I always end up spending my nights out (when drunk) educating people about responsible MDMA-use.
 
If I was to make a poster it would list the all positive and negative outcomes... sure, you can have an amazing night out at the club and feel on top of the world. Or, you can get a bunk pill and be throwing up for 5 hours worrying if you might die.

There is NO reason to lie in these posters, the real consequences from ecstasy abuse are fucking scary enough. Anyone that's been through one day of depersonalization knows that it's about one of the worst things you can go through in life
 
Folley said:
ces from ecstasy abuse are fucking scary enough. Anyone that's been through one day of depersonalization knows that it's about one of the worst things you can go through in life
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That and the direct 5ht2b agonism being cardiotoxic resulting in an increased chance of mortality upon rolling.

JWills20 said:
This is the exact point I was making with the peanut anecdote - there is 0 context and realism behind the posters. Sure, a few people have died from dropping pills labelled as 'Ecstasy' but there is a whole context behind the whole death. Chances are they didn't even take the drug that was claimed to kill them, mixed it with other substances, didn't drink any water, drunk way too much water, actually died from something non-drug related that was just coincidental etc etc.

Why can't we just put out evidence-based posters based solely on research to report the real dangers of drugs an keep the less educated drug users safe.

I always end up spending my nights out (when drunk) educating people about responsible MDMA-use.
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Because no one really wants to hear scientific fact, research examples and sources. They don't want a GREY issue, they want WHITE or BLACK. Right and Wrong. Life is simpler when you can let someone else do the thinking. It makes you mad doesn't it? But it's the truth.
"Who wants to take 1 molly when we can take 2 or 3 and roll harder? Screw it! I'm young!"

Often times I wonder the point in even laying out facts with some people, especially kids, who are clearly not listening and do not care. People that take drugs without HR knowledge are no better than a blind person trying to drive down a highway. I pity anyone who chooses to keep a blind eye to science.
 
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