ALTERNATIVE THEORIES V: The Build-a-bear Workshop

[Escher's Waterfall]

So how much of normal water is tritium anyways?

 

[Max Power]

Why hasn't "Alternative Theories IV" been moved to the Archive yet?

because ancient aliens.

 

[MyFinalRest]

Did i get too logical for you?

No, not at all...everything is business as usual.

Well, just cause some dorkos at a lab didn't detect anything doesn't explain the upward rising pyroclastic clouds, the shooting debris propelled away from the towers, the scorched vehicles with unburnt paper scattered next to them etc.

Wasn't that when "the world stawpped turnin'" by Alan Jackson?

Dorks in the labs wasn't doin' their jawbs. It was the day that liberals joined hands with their right-wing wackjob borthers and everybody's necks turned red. The Americunt peoples swore vengeance upon thier evil Islawmik attackers. It was a moment of amplified Nationalistic narcissism. Their poor little worlds stopped turnin' cause Mohammed did some burnin.' True story.

 

[freddy47]

^Its not just some "dorkos" in a lab who missed it but also nuclear power plants and hospitals etc.

You can ignore it all you want but in the end you're just plain wrong buddy.

In conclusion. Nuclear bomb theory is by far the stupidest conspiracy theory ever thought up by anyone, second probably only to the moon landing deniers.

 

[rangrz]

So how much of normal water is tritium anyways?

The quantity is so vanishingly small as to be meaningless. However Deuterium is about 1/6400th fraction of hydrogen, cause deuterium is stable whereas tritium has a 12yr Half-Life by B decay. (And since the earth is.4.5billion yrs old, the reason it's not meaningful should be evident...disregarding the tiny amount of cosmogenic tritium)

 

[MyFinalRest]

60pCi/L is Normal Water;
3,530pCi/L is what was found in ground water directly below GZWTC.

An "official" study on the subject:
https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf
The government study claims it was possibly from people's watches or rifle sights on weaponry? A table in the pdf shows considerably higher concentrations from 2 samples taken from WTC6's basement.

Here's an internet article on the subject too:
http://wtcdemolition.blogspot.com/2009/07/final-word-on-tritium.html

P.S. about this stupid fucking poll...why couldn't it just be yes, no, or maybe? Comparing the American people to sheep is an insult to sheep.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

The quantity is so vanishingly small as to be meaningless.

Meaningless, I'm sure. But it would be detectable with the right equipment.

"Vanishingly small" would mean that a small amount of contamination would result in levels increasing far in excess of normal background levels.

Tangent:

I was actually reading about that guy who got arrested the other day for his watch (trying to board a flight, it sounds like he may have had a steampunk watch and the TSA freaked) and someone brought up Woz's watch (Woz of Apple fame). Nifty watch, it used the old Nixie tubes (seriously, google it if you're into geeky stuff). So I started reading about watches and learned that some high end watches used tritium to make the various markings glow.

60pCi/L is Normal Water;
3,530pCi/L is what was found in ground water directly below GZWTC.

An "official" study on the subject:
https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf

3.53 nCi/L is the measurement they report. (For anyone who is searching the PDF like me).
.1 or .2 nCi/L is "normal".

According to the PDF, it claims "[t]he typical content of tritium per [exit sign] is 10 Ci". One could verify that from other sources. But if that's the case, 10 Ci is 10,000,000,000 nCi. One exit sign, in theory, could contaminate about 2,500,000,000 liters to the level detected.

I assume watches probably wouldn't be the primary source then. Exit signs could be.

 

[MyFinalRest]

But, the problem with that is that Tritium is a gas - when exit signs etc. are broken, it floats away into the atmosphere where it will eventually combine with oxygen, enter the precipitation cycle and return to the ground that way. It would have floated away (just like hydrogen gas) before it could have been soaked through to the ground with fire hoses and rain.

Regardless, that's not hardly the most interesting phenomena at the GZWTC site.
Check out this crater left behind: Looks like a volcanic eruption occured here!

...and I've already shown you the scorched cars amid the unburned paper and the mushroom cloud, just scroll up or back.

 

[MyFinalRest]

Who's got about 4 hours to watch this 2 part interview with former Russian Military nuke man, Dimitri Khazelov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuNg88YAVak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3mzRuzx7Og

I don't know about his explanations as to why the wtcs 1,2,&7 were nuked, and I don't agree that wtc7 was a nuclear event because it lacks that wonderful upward rising mushroom cloud that were characteristic of the North and South Towers, but it's good info nonetheless.

Dimitri states that the nuke was underground, and since that was likely the case, it would have released less radiation. There remain doubts that the 2009 DPNK nuke test was real because even though they picked up seismic activity, they could not detect any radioactive substances in the air.

Interestingly enough Dimitri states that building codes in NY required a planned demolition of any building in the original plans before a permit could be issued, and that planned demolition was considered so difficult with conventional explosives that a nuclear device would be the only effective means. Plans satisfied the board and a permit was issued. This was knowledge was shared with Dimitri and other Russian military officials through a treaty between the U.S.S.R. and the U.S.

One more thing here's a nice pdf for those guys who reject anything on Youtube out of hand:
http://www.nucleardemolition.com/GZero_Sample.pdf

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

But, the problem with that is that Tritium is a gas - when exit signs etc. are broken, it floats away into the atmosphere where it will eventually combine with oxygen

Or, if its in a fire, it will burn. 2H2 + O2 -> 2H2O. That is, the result of hydrogen burning is water.

Now, was the world trade center on fire?

 

[rangrz]

^
Also, (this is actually tenuous...I'm not a chemist) But, IIRC, water exchanges hydrogen atoms between molecules.Like if you have water with 50/50 split of H2O and D2O, you have 50% molecules of DHO and 25 each of h2o and D2O nearly instantly. So if you bubbled the 3H from broken signs through the water (cause perhaps the broke under it) the 3H would bind (it has a stronger binding affinity to O than 1H)

 

[MyFinalRest]

Or, if its in a fire, it will burn. 2H2 + O2 -> 2H2O. That is, the result of hydrogen burning is water.

Now, was the world trade center on fire?

Oh yeah? What happens to water at 212 degrees F?

Look at this example of where a building storing tritium signs caught fire in Alaska. No tritium apparently contaminated the soil etc.

"It is important to compare this small release of tritium in the fire with two other incidents
caused by fire and involving the release of molecular tritium. One incident involved a fire
in a community building at Council, Alaska, on 9/6/87, where 12 RL light panels for
airport runway marking were stored, totaling 3000 Ci of tritium (39). It was a free-burning
fire, which consumed the building in 1 hr. Tritium assessment was done 11 days after the
accident. The remaining GTLS tubes were mostly undamaged but disfigured, indicating that
all tritium had escaped. No air-borne tritium was detected. All tubes were carefully wiped
on surfaces, and the HTO activity from the wipes amounted to 6.5×10-8 of that originally
present. No HTO was found in bioassay or environmental samples.

Here is another incident invlolving a military plane carrying "tens of thousands" CI of tritium in its cargo.

Another incident, involving containers with tens of thousands CI of
tritium, was a fire on a C-124 airplane on the ground at the Wright-Patterson Air Force
Base, Dayton, OH, on 10/12/65 (40). That fire was actively extinguished. Elevated levels of
HTO were found in bioassay samples, on emergency and fire equipment, clothing, in the
debris, as well as in the soil and water from nearby samples. In comparison with the Alaska
incident, the active fire fighting contributed to capture of some of the HTO on site.

Therefore in the situation at Council, Alaska, a small building containing 3000 Ci of tritium
(as opposed to 34 Ci in the WTC 767s) left no detectable trace of Tritium afterwards. It took
an aircraft fire with tens of thousands of Ci of T to leave detectable traces.

Escher, 911InsideJobbers are not fucking retards.

besides this point, how can kerosene explain the rest of the highly unusual phenomenon such as the large crater with a cooled magma-coated like appearance, the workers digging up red hot debris for over 2 months, the mushroomin cloud seen at 1 & 2 but not at 7, the scorched metal on the cars blocks away with piles of unburnt paper next to them...etc?

 

[Max Power]

ink blot #432

Most people see a butterfly. MyFinalRest sees a controlled nuclear explosion carefully crafted by the Bilderbergs in cooperation with inter-dimensional aliens with telepathic powers with the sole intent of enslaving the human race.

diff'rent strokes

 

[Wyld 4 X]

ink blot #432

Most people see a butterfly. MyFinalRest sees a controlled nuclear explosion carefully crafted by the Bilderbergs in cooperation with inter-dimensional aliens with telepathic powers with the sole intent of enslaving the human race.

diff'rent strokes

Oh no!! MFR is trying to awaken The Didact and let him reign down his ultimate destruction on mankind!

 

[Folley]

ink blot #432

Most people see a butterfly. MyFinalRest sees a controlled nuclear explosion carefully crafted by the Bilderbergs in cooperation with inter-dimensional aliens with telepathic powers with the sole intent of enslaving the human race.

diff'rent strokes

I see an alien.... he looks like a mix of Jar-Jar Binks and Predator

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

Here is another incident invlolving a military plane carrying "tens of thousands" CI of tritium in its cargo.

Escher, 911InsideJobbers are not fucking retards.

From what you quoted:

"Another incident, involving containers with tens of thousands CI of tritium, was a fire on a C-124 airplane on the ground at the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, OH, on 10/12/65 (40). That fire was actively extinguished. Elevated levels of HTO were found in bioassay samples, on emergency and fire equipment, clothing, in the debris, as well as in the soil and water from nearby samples. In comparison with [a different fire], the active fire fighting contributed to capture of some of the HTO on site."

So was their active fire fighting at the WTC?

 

[L2R]

see, there's your problem

blah blah crazy shit blah

and so on and i must have lost my meds etcetera

you shouldn't build atop of half eaten trifle. anyone who can spell engineering can tell you that.

 

[freddy47]

From what you quoted:

"Another incident, involving containers with tens of thousands CI of tritium, was a fire on a C-124 airplane on the ground at the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, OH, on 10/12/65 (40). That fire was actively extinguished. Elevated levels of HTO were found in bioassay samples, on emergency and fire equipment, clothing, in the debris, as well as in the soil and water from nearby samples. In comparison with [a different fire], the active fire fighting contributed to capture of some of the HTO on site."

So was their active fire fighting at the WTC?

Of course there wasn't dude. It was all just an elaborate act. There were no actual fire trucks there. It was all CIA people pretending to be firefighters. It was all an act.

 

[MyFinalRest]

From what you quoted:

"Another incident, involving containers with tens of thousands CI of tritium, was a fire on a C-124 airplane on the ground at the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, OH, on 10/12/65 (40). That fire was actively extinguished. Elevated levels of HTO were found in bioassay samples, on emergency and fire equipment, clothing, in the debris, as well as in the soil and water from nearby samples. In comparison with [a different fire], the active fire fighting contributed to capture of some of the HTO on site."

So was their active fire fighting at the WTC?

Not before the tritium would have escaped or burned and evaporated. There was very little of it in the wtc's anyway - unlike the Alsaka fire or the military plane fire where both cases were either storing or transporting large quantities of products containing it.

Remember, it took a military plane that caught fire on the gorund at an Ohio airbase that was carrying "tens of thousands CI of it" that was immediately hosed off allowing it to be quickly washed all over the place. Firefighters were quickly on the scene there.

was a fire on a C-124 airplane on the ground at the Wright-Patterson Air Force
Base, Dayton, OH, on 10/12/65 (40). That fire was actively extinguished.

It took a while for the wtc plus it was many stories up - not allowing firemen to drive right up and hose it off. Just face it, that and other evidence is too strong to deny it. It certainly wasn't a kerosene job. You don't even have the balls to say anything about that strange crater or much of anything else. You are not going to win this argument. Sorry about your cushy little world of whole-hearted absolute trust in the government and people in general, but people tell lies, and the 911ArabJob was a big lie.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

Not before the tritium would have escaped or burned and evaporated. There was very little of it in the wtc's anyway - unlike the Alsaka fire or the military plane fire where both cases were either storing or transporting large quantities of products containing it.

Remember, it took a military plane that caught fire on the gorund at an Ohio airbase that was carrying "tens of thousands CI of it" that was immediately hosed off allowing it to be quickly washed all over the place. Firefighters were quickly on the scene there.

Do conspiracy theorists claim that the WTC towers were engulfed in an uncontrolled raging inferno from top to bottom?