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ALTERNATIVE THEORIES V: The Build-a-bear Workshop

MyFinalRest said:
Fucking please...the government orchestrated it. period. There is no way an amatuer "Muslim" pilot did a perfect maneuver into the pentagon, and I've already been through how fake the wtc plane images look.
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It's not difficult to believe that someone with minimal training could crash a plane into a giant building in an open space. It wasn't exactly a Red Barron maneuver.

Also, what do you mean "fake wtc plane images"? You mean the ones captured on live television and from every angle on amateur video with hundreds of thousands of witnesses on site?
 
I can't understand the reasoning behind the "planes were fake" theory.


So the Illuminati controls the whole world, orchestrated one of the most successful false flag attacks in the world, and started a war solely designed to win them profit... and they can't afford 4 fucking planes?

No, you're right. A hologram projected from space would be a MUCH more cost effective way of deceiving the public 8)
 
^ And much less likely to arouse suspicion.. /end sarcasm

If you are talking about the drone theory.. again.. a power than controls the world would have the power to take control of 4 planes..

And where did the passengers go? Where did the missing planes go? Why is there voice recording between the control centre and flight 77? The phone calls? Parts resembling those of a Boeing 757-223 found at the pentagon?

Plane crashes are notoriously unpredictable.. sometimes pieces of unharmed documents can be found while steel parts of the plane can not.. And no I'm not talking about planes involved in anything that could be seen as a conspiracy.

The no plane theory is one of the most bullshit and easily disproved theories out there.
 
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MyFinalRest said:
Architects and Engineers ... have it quite wrong
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Those fools with their degrees in mathematics and physics, they are no match for a neckbeard with a web connection and too much time on his hands.

Bardeaux said:
It wasn't exactly a Red Barron maneuver.
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MyFinalRest said:
No, I do not think that any radical Jihadist group was involved at all with 9/11. My belief currently stands at this: "Al Qaeda" is just a phony brand name assigned to any anti-american militant operation in a muslim country. There is no such thing as a globally unified radical jihadist movement.
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What about Hamas? Hezbollah? the Mujahideen? All phonies? I'm in agreement about one globally unified group cannot exist but there are plenty of regional ones to go around.
 
MyFinalRest said:
Fucking please...the government orchestrated it. period. There is no way an amatuer "Muslim" pilot did a perfect maneuver into the pentagon, and I've already been through how fake the wtc plane images look.

Just cause there are tiny scraps of aluminum with only one bearing some resemblance to the airline logo doesn't mean shit. Those "whiteshirt" goons could have planted that logo piece easy. There is no way every body, piece of luggage, and every other plane part simply disappeared like that into something unrecognizable as a plane wreck.

I've presented a much better argument and like the rest, I wonder if you are too damn lazy to read it? You have plenty of confidence but so far absolutely zero substance to back up your claims. Are you ready for round deux?
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can we just agree that absolutely no matter what evidence somebody presents, you'll dismiss it somehow and move on?

you think it was an inside job? great. you've said that.

alasdair
 
Wyld 4 X said:
What about Hamas? Hezbollah? the Mujahideen? All phonies? I'm in agreement about one globally unified group cannot exist but there are plenty of regional ones to go around.
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You asked about Al Qaeda. Do you have memory problems that bad...if you do ya know...you can always uhhhh....look back at the question you asked me on a previous page, or is it too much trouble to do that on an Iphone?

I said Al Qaeda is phony, and I know that you are a racist islamophobe too from your previous posts. What do Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Taliban or whatever suddenly have to do with this discussion. YOU ASKED MY OPINION ABOUT "AL QAEDA" AND YOU REPLY WITH THIS NONSENSE? I HOPE ISLAM CONQUERS THE PSYCHO AND STUPID WHITE RACE VERY SOON!
 
Folley said:
I can't understand the reasoning behind the "planes were fake" theory.


So the Illuminati controls the whole world, orchestrated one of the most successful false flag attacks in the world, and started a war solely designed to win them profit... and they can't afford 4 fucking planes?

No, you're right. A hologram projected from space would be a MUCH more cost effective way of deceiving the public 8)
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You're acting like a real jerk buddy. You can't watch the link either?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml2TL5N8ds&feature=youtu.be
You would then understand that they are not "holograms" but video edits.
 
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rickolasnice said:
^ Parts of people.. including a wedding ring.. were also found..

And anecdotal reports of a pilot not being skilled enough to pull it off is just that.. anecdotal reports.. it could have been he was just extremely lucky but i've seen complete amateurs take control of a plane and have no problems flying it..

And the planes look fake at wtc's 1 and 2.. what were they then?
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A wedding ring, a wheel rim, and a scrap of metal with a red logo on it? That's it? Where's the seats, the luggage, the rest of the fucking plane? Vaporized? Destroyed through pure kinietics?

There should be lots more very clear evidence here. And yes, it is difficult to aim a very large and less agile plane at 500mph directly where you want it to touch down unless you have some real experience. Both the shanksville and pentagon crash sites should be displaying tons of clear evidence but they don't.
If I saw anything like the following, I'd believe it, but until then...
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alasdairm said:
can we just agree that absolutely no matter what evidence somebody presents, you'll dismiss it somehow and move on?

you think it was an inside job? great. you've said that.

alasdair
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I see lots of drug users hurling insults on this forum, but very little good, if any, evidence. And guess what? The reason I dismiss it is because it doesn't connect with reality.

And you're going to continue to falsely accuse 19 Muslims of doing this heinous act? Great. You've already said that.
 
Well please, enlighten me as to how he is wrong?

"Ace Baker is wrong cause he's Stoopid" is not an answer.

Stop your wild hatred for Arab people and stop falsely accusing them of doing this heinous act now.
 
I spent half an hour listening to a conspiracy theorist explain elementary photo shopping and offer no fact. There were lots of "in my opinion..."s but no factual evidence to support any of his claims, only "I can tell by the pixels" arguments.

It also didn't address any of the other points raised in this thread. For instance, if the planes in the live shots were edited in, why did the witness giving commentary during one of the shots describe watching a plane fly over her building and crash into the tower as it happened? Is she in on the conspiracy?

Or the thousands of eyewitnesses on the ground?
 
What thousands of eye witnesses? One yakking yankee accent woman on the phone with the news doesn't do it for me. There are plenty saying they only saw an explosion - not a plane too, you'd hear what they had to say if you could concentrate and actually watch the movie. It's physically impossible for a plane to dive straight through a building without smashing itself at least a little.

You also obviously did not watch watch the video. He doesn't talk about "photoshopping" or "pixels." I'm watching it now, and I haven't heard him say "in my opinion..." once. Not once.
He explains how it is possible to do live video compositing just like they did that day.

Either you got the wrong video or you are a pathological liar.

Here's a different video with some eyewitnesses who say otherwise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Y4zfl8yy4&feature=related
I don't really like this video, but it has some interesting references. Ace Baker's is much more accurate. There were no missiles used. It was pre-planted explosives that caused the fire ball and blast, which was very much real. Ace also clearly explains how the live editors were able to link up to the blast zone.
 
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L2R said:
i remember staying up and watching that shit live.
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I saw it live that morning. The second "plane crash" and the two "collapses."

I was a big sucker for the official story. I went around and foolishly defended the Arabs who finally got their long overdue revenge on America for it's support in Israel's systematic policies of murder and genocide. I was an official story dunce myself once upon a time.
 
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