TDS Trying to distract traumatic scenes...

indybreaker

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hey guys. If you dont know me im Indy , was great friends of matt (splatt) for about 8 years. I wouldnt ever think i would post in here but here I go....
So my girl of 4 years (we are madly in love) we got pregnant after 3 years of trying.....we have had 2 miscarriages already but they were when we didnt even know we were pregnant. Now the recent time we fell pregnant we were so happy. Financially things are great. Our relationship is strong. My Parents accepted it (old school upbringing/religous) so things were great......Long story short good things come to an end and we had to go to hospital coz my girl started bleeding. Doc said be prepared for a miscarriaged. next day I was with my girl all day preparing for the worst (i was so indenial that nething was wrong) then a scream 'i can feel it coming out' I race to the bathroom whre she is. I tell her to look straight up and not look downstairs. and in my hands my 11 week old baby fell into my arms. My little angel had forming hands . legs, and a soul (thats hard for me to say because i am no way into spiritual shit but i respect people that are ). My girl broke down, i went into some sort of state and put my 'baby'into a box, all blooded and deformed......I froze. I physicallly held my gf for hours. she was stronger then me, constantly asking if im ok. It was like i was in a colma , i could here her, but i couldnt respond......all i could see was that image of my baby girl (sex wasnt known yet but i knew it was a girl) in the cup of my hands as if she was in a warzone. my baby 'poppy'.......Its been a hard road. I have now been put on anti depressents (efexor 150mg) and sadly just ran out of my valium (50mg in one hit) this isnt a dangerous amount for me i am a big low bf% 90kg male. i cant get anymore valium , the xanax they gave me didnt help ( i was eating 7 mg at once and nothing). ive now eaten the last of my valium (25mg) and am drinking straight vodka ( im a MD- master distiller at a distillery and produce alchohol for a living- have never drunk on the job- until now).

(sorry forgot to paragraph)- the thing is , im not sure why i told you guys. Ill say what i said to my gp/councellor. theres nothing that can be said to me. What ive seen has been seen, what i feel is what i feel. I have lost the path of what my future was to lead. I was brought up 10 years prior as a global touring DJ( im not looking for an ego boost- most just to tell you the lifestyle change) and the best track I would ever feel or here would be my baby to speak.- sounds stupid i know, but trying to get this off my cheast.

there will be people that will tell me get off the benzos, dont drink. etc etc.....ive recently started doing CWE and ordered DXM which is something i thought i would never do (not as a dirty thing to think moreso just was focussed on healthy living for a change after many years of drug abuse). now im doing CWE 3-4 times a week. hiding it from my gf , freaking out that ive run out of valium and generally not knowing what to do.....I dont have a session for my first pysciatrist till sept 21 so Im not sure what to do.

Like i said theres nothing that can be said, im just trying so hard to get the image of my dead baby (that ive now buried at my garden and plan on planting poppies as that was to be her name) . I see ads on TVs of babys, babys down the street. I dont get angry or abuse anyone. I just want my baby back.

I still cant believe that ive posted this on here as the username may be known to a few Brisbane folk, so if you know who I am in Brizzy please have the respect to keep this to BL.

Thankyou and ive always respected and appreciated such a site. some may think its all about dirty junkies bla bla but I am a person that shuts themselve from the world when its tough, and typing out my thoughts to people that I trust , even though i Have know idea who you are means alot. Respect to all that are associated to BL, moderators, users, and guests.

Indy
 
Damn dude, it sounds like you've bad quite a ride. Thanks for trusting us. You might consider telling these things to your counselor though, he/she could probably help you work things out in a you that you might not have thought of. Try cutting back on the substances, a clouded mine never helps anything. Most importantly, try accepting the fact that your dear Poppy is gone, Although it may take you a long time to process this. Much love dude, hope you're Okay.

-pastel
 
Fuck Indy, that's a really heartbreaking situation.

I can imagine that as much as this thought is a negative influence on your life, that you don't want to ignore it or forget about it, as you want to show respect to your baby daughter's memory, and not just forget she ever existed.

I'll share with you what had helped me with really traumatic memories, that even long after they've passed, still invoke really intense feelings of anxiety, sadness and fear. What has allowed me to move on from experiences like this, is mindfullness meditation. I can't encourage you enough to try it. It's very simple to practice - you can google it to find some guides/tracks on it, but I'm also happy to provide you my tracks if you think this is an avenue worth pursuing, if you pm me.

The way mindfullness meditation works, is to help you live in the present, but it also helps deal with traumatic memories, because once you have meditated for awhile, and you're in a relaxed state, you can bring in the thoughts of your daughter, and you can eventually replace the traumatic feelings with ones of peace. It's an association technique, which doesn't change the reality of the situation or show any less respect to her memory, but helps you look at the situation more calmly.

Like I said - this technique has been a life saver for me, in terms of dealing with memories which are extremely trauamtic and anxiety provoking for me, and I have no doubt it would help you too.

All the best <3
 
So sorry to hear what happened. I agree with footscrazy and I think you should try meditation. It could really make a difference.
It sounds like an extremely traumatizing experience but I just hope you know that as time goes by, you will be able to deal with it better and better - for now you need to grieve the loss, but it will get easier.
The psychiatrist might help.

Best of luck.
 
thanks for your kind and supporting words. I dont think ill go down the meditation road sorry as I have shocking attention spans that I can never 'clear my mind'so to speak. I have OCD attributes where my mind will constantly tell me commands like 'turn light on turn light on turn light on'and until i do it it stops, then onto a new task....dont worry there not voices, moreso my minds words. Still PM me footscrazy as I will still be honoured to hear your advice further on how I can manage this. I feel so utterly shit this morning (vomitting all night) which I do when I get severe anxiety, and since ive only got 3 valium left now Im frightened of losing alot of weight and dehidrating (ive already gone from 96kg down to 88kg and am a bit of a gym junkie but have not gone for a while so ive lost alot of muscle). ill focus on keeping my fluids up and hydralite today....baby steps....
 
Hi, Indy. I am so sorry to hear about your loss and the horrific way that it happened. There is a group called Compassionate Friends that is a group for parents who have lost children of any age. While I think that it is mostly a U.S. group, I know that they have an online community chat room. It was recommended to me after my son died but through a strange turn of events I got connected with Bluelight instead and here I am. Support is essential, whether it is those friends that will let you express freely or a group of other grieving parents or a therapist. People get very uncomfortable with other people's pain and so they can subtly pressure you to "move on". Grief is a long, long road. I am just starting my second year without my son. Things have no doubt gotten easier, but the sadness will never go away. Don't let anyone pressure you to hurry, to man-up, to move on. Take your time to feel your feelings. Try to find ways to express them. Try to find an outlet for all the love you wanted to give to Poppy.

footscrazy's advice about Mindfulness is really worth checking out. The ideas and simple tools I took away from the philosophy of mindfulness probably saved my life following the death of my son; it certainly saved my sanity. Don't worry, it's not all meditation. I don't actually meditate, it's more of a way of thinking.

Again, I am truly sorry. I wish you strength, cleansing and healing tears, comfort and trust.<3

edit; just looked up Compassionate Friends and they are in Brisbane, too. Here is the link.
 
thanks for that herbavore. cheers. feeling the same, anxiety has been thru the roof which has killed me aswell.

I just want to say to everyone not just in this thread (wasnt sure to make a new thread or not) aswell as just bluelight in general. Sure people can quickly browse n make there assumptions that its just a bunch of druggos talking about gear but thats far from it.
I have found the Dark side to be my own group of counselors. I am a person that hides there sadness (raised to harden up-beaten if tears were drawn etc) and dont communicate that well or open up for that matter. However, Ive been on bluelight for about 8 or so years (created a username last year as I have nooooo idea what my other one would of been) but only recently after this event in my life occured have I been on it frequently (can only access it mon-wed)

I just want to say thankyou to everyone for being there. Its a non profit organization that people actually give time to those that are in need of it and can relate to it. If you are reading this and are in the same boat as me (keep things to yourself etc) then type away. Im not a spiritual or hippie kind of guy, but i feel such a weight off my shoulders when i get my emotions out of my head and onto the screen. (ive relapsed into sever OCD so getting things out are really helping).
So thankyou TDS. whether it be a mod, member, guest, or anyone. Thankyou.

I am now being extremely productive again and am giving my family (my partner and 2 kids) everything I can give.
Indy!
 
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YAY!!! Indy, that is so good to hear. Sometimes, reading through TDS can get very heavy and while I am writing "don't give up hope" for the umpteenth time I am having to work very hard to follow my own advice. Then, someone writes about regaining hope and feeling their strength and capabilities and I feel lighter and strengthened myself. This is how it works and this is really all there is worth having in this life: kindness and compassion and gratitude for what we can create for each other. Thank you so much for writing and letting us all know that you are doing well. You brightened my day quite a bit!<3
 
sounds bad, sorry. They have a saying once you ring the bell you can't unring it.

Your right you saw it already and thats that. However I will say what others say, drugs and drinking may mask the pain but if you don't find a way to deal with this now its going to get worse. Plus on top of this tramatic event and pst or whatever it is that seeing the dead baby did to you you going to get a drug addiction also. Thats going to make it that much harder to get shit strait in your head.

My advise is simple. Don't get hooked on drugs, or drinking. Im not saying don't do drugs and don't drink just don't get addicted. And try and work through this, see docotors talk to your mom and dad, talk to your gf... its all you can do is talk.... you say nothing can be said well maybe you don't need to hear anything maybe your the one who needs to do the talking.

good luck. sorry for your loss
 
These last few weeks have taken a toll on my relationship with my gf. Ive been doing xanax and drinking everynight (pretty much) and being out cold at 7pm. Ive now realised how much this was ruining our relationship last night as she said its gotta stop and I have to. the reason i did/do it is of the terrible vision i still have of what i saw. But today is a new day, ive got 150x 2mg xanax (my psyc prescribed them to me -why i have no idea as i didnt ask for them) but i have no temptation to have them. Its more the phsyical and intermecy that Im not giving her (my sex drive has been lost since being on an anti depressent now aswell) I know i wont lose her as Im going to stop getting wasted everynight and deal with the images i see when i close my eyes. thought i would touch base as to where I am at the moment with you.

Im smoking meth during the day on mon-wed which she doesnt know about. reason I am is the job i work mon-wed is only me on site and I need a 'numb' distraction. i was doing CWEs prior to last week when i started smoking meth again. Im going to stop smoking again as of nxt week ive decided as I need to get ahead (financially aswell). Ive had quite a few months off (6 maybe 7?) off the pipe and needed"/wanted to feel that empathy i used to get and distract me from this ordeal.

so this week is the last week im going to pipe on.....Im hoping i stop doing cwe's (which i feel i will as im feeling it to be too much of an effort to obtain as i need 900mg+ to feel anything).
Started gym again last week, so Im going to focus on getting fit again and being there on all levels for my gf. ive jumped back up to 95kg (jumped down to 88kg since this happened) so my diet is back on track and training is too.

Not so much questions for you to answer in this post, moreso just touching base and getting out my thoughts 'on paper' as it has helped so much doing so in this thread.

Hope you are all well, wherever you are in the world :)
Indy.
 
so how things have changed. ive since broken up with my gf, crashed my car, and had amnesia for the last 3 days.....im back living with my pArents who are supporting me. the local police are actually helping me out (escorted me home when they pulled me over after been reported irational driving after my crash) they drove me home and told me to get off the xanax. im off the xaNax , im not, or never been addicted to them.....or am i /have i been? im just thankful for my parents, ive always come crawling back to them aFter shit hits the fan, and everytime they forgive me. i owe them alot and need to step up.
 
so how things have changed. ive since broken up with my gf, crashed my car, and had amnesia for the last 3 days.....im back living with my pArents who are supporting me. the local police are actually helping me out (escorted me home when they pulled me over after been reported irational driving after my crash) they drove me home and told me to get off the xanax. im off the xaNax , im not, or never been addicted to them.....or am i /have i been? im just thankful for my parents, ive always come crawling back to them aFter shit hits the fan, and everytime they forgive me. i owe them alot and need to step up.

I am wishing you the best man.

Keep talking to your friends/family and know that there are brighter days ahead for us all.
 
hey Indy i just read this today, the title was something i feel... i know the pain of trauma and the toll it can and will take on your body, it has been 1 year sense the event that impacted me and changes my personality and my entire prospective... just know that there are groups that help tremendously... i have found that being around people that can relate with PTSD (no offense to anyone, at all, but someone that hasn't witnessed a life altering traumatic event dont fully understand the feelings that are associated, the shear surreal aura of it, racing thought of wanting to change it so bad it physically hurts), i have been going to my VA group now for almost 7 months, at first(before VA) i thought i could handle the pain and the overwhelming thoughts, this compounded my disorder... now today when i look at how i was before the group and how i live now LITERALLY saved my life.

I cant sit here and tell you "everything will be fine and dandy, go to group and your cured" unfortunately it doesn't work like that... the event is engrained, i can tell you that you will learn great skills to cope, and not just push the feelings down. i dont know any more that what i read here but if your event was damaging to you quality of life then maybe this will help you, maybe im just talking into the wind... none the less, here it is....


p.s. i still deal with coping skills, i use methamphetamine, to numb myself... although i feel somewhat hypocritical for makeing these sudggestions, im with you and trying to make it through this...
 
my use has sky rocketeed, ive gone thru half a g of ice.and 8 ball of ketone, a half g of speed, bit of coke,. and 700mg codeiene and 6mg kpins over the duration of 48hours ive got a bit of a nod happening now, got nothing left but the kpins but not going to take nemore. jst gna watch tv, i realy need to get off everything, i feel so dirty and ashamed of my abuse

this is fucked ive hit rock botto
 
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OK< Indy, you can do this. But I doubt you can do it alone so you've got to figure out what resources you have. Is there a mental health clinic you could turn to? Don't be afraid to ask for and seek help. Like psychocentric says learning skills to cope is your way out of this. You can do it but first you have to find even the tiniest bit of hope inside yourself. Look at it this way. If you did not care about life then the event that was traumatic to you would not have even registered as such. You care about life, you care about your girlfriend and yourself. That is where your hope is. It isn't dead or inaccessible. You are scared right now but I know that you can do this with some help. Finding that help is all you need to think about right now---everything else will fall into place after that.<3
 
sorry i didnt see your reply. My mums putting me in rehab. shes found out of my ice abuse and is now monitoring my medication (ive moved back in with my parents ). i really dont want to go to rehab, i feel really sad today. pretty worthless and feeling of emptyness. I wana do myself over already. Im promoting an event (DJ gig) on the weekend and quite frankly thats the only reason i havent done myself over is the fact i have to run this party. Wish i could turn back time :(
 
Give rehab a chance, Indy. Open yourself up beyond where you are comfortable. Push yourself. there is no reason to turn back time. You may have made some mistakes but it is all life. It all goes into the mix and into the music. Only death is irrevocable. I wish I could turn back time and get my son back. I would send him to rehab. I would say keep fighting because you are an amazing human being just starting out in this big messy miracle. I don't get to say it to him so I will say it to you. You don't deserve death. You deserve all the days that still lie in front of you to change and grow and fall down and get back up laughing. I hope you can find some hope, buddy. (((((<3))))
 
Just touching base .i have split with my gf but am happy.i got really bad with codeine 2g a day and 70mg Xanax a day .i decided to detox cold turkey and was a living hell.took 3 weeks and since then late November I've been clean :)

I thank you all for the loving support .u all supplied words no shrink gave xoxo
 
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