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Nootropics The Big & Dandy Nootropics Thread (Stack 2)

Huuum, is it a coincidence that you're from H-Town and so is the company I bought this bullshit from? I'm Taking Neuro Vortex Piracetam AND I DIDN't FEEL a fucking thing after I TOOK 10 DAMN PILLS which equaled 8 grams man. There's no excuse for that. I should've felt something, there's no advice them crooked motherfuckers could've given me for their fake shit pills not working.My girl didn't feel a fucking thing either. The shit is fake point blank. It was too easy to find that website so therefor I should've known it was a scam! It fucking sucks you have to take a chance by buying bullshit products online all the fucking time!

It shouldn't take 2-3 weeks for me to feel anything. I've read plenty reports and if you're taking legit piracetam you should feel effects within 45 minutes. And that's off of people taking under 4 gs. I TOOK 8!!! ANd didn't feel a fucking thing. You (SInce I know you work for them) Should offer a refund just like Onnit Labs with that shitty ass ALpha Brain bullshit product.

Edit: Ok, the Piracetam is called Neuro Boost. Either way the shit fucking sucks donkey dick.
 
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16 grams!?! Are you trying to have me kill myself? What is that, 20 fucking pills? Get the fuck out of here dude. Your product fucking licks monkey ass!
 
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Has anybody tried cerebrolysin?

Looks interesting. Pricy though.

Nootropics I have tried include:

Galantamine, huperzine-A (both anticholinesterases, careful with these, an OD can be dangerous, remember, nerve agents are also anticholinesterases)

Piracetam, aniracetam, pramiracetam, all with choline bitartrate)
Sulbutiamine (was decent, nothing massively impressive, but still decent)
Piribedil, a D2/D3 type dopamine receptor agonist, also an alpha2 adrenoreceptor antagonist (but I don't think it can be that potent of an A2 antagonist, as nearly ANY A2 antagonism causes severe akathisia in me....lol, actually I need the opposite, large doses of clonidine and/or tizanidine, as I'm autie, and alpha2 adrenoreceptor agonists are an absolute fucking godsend for suppressing overloads)

I quite liked it, improved my motivation and executive function significantly; although I didn't notice much of an improvement if any on memory itself). And betahistine, a H3 histamine receptor agonist, which was quite good at improving memory. Doesn't compare to galantamine or pramiracetam though)

I am looking forward to trying DM-235, I have had that on the back burner so to speak in the lab for aaages, just never gotten around to actually synthing it)

Its an AMPAkine, and one of the most potent known by weight IIRC, not sure if its ever been tried in a human before. Looks good in the rats though (no, I didn't run the tests myself. I am massively against animal cruelty, it is right up there with paedophillia, rape, and stamping on babies' heads for fun in my book in terms of being absofuckinglutely abhorrent. My lab does NOT use animals, in any way. It makes me truly sick to my stomach, reading journal articles, and hearing of the torments inflicted on animals under the aegis of science. No different, and in many cases, even worse, than the atrocities perpetrated upon the yids by Dr.Mengele in the nazi era)

Active in the microgram range. Easy synthesis too. I have the stuff necessary to run the synth, propionyl chloride, HCl, benzoyl chloride, and of course, piperazine. I just need to purify my piperazine, and I am often struggling with impaired executive function. The AMPAkines look kick arse in general, but sunifiram/DM-235 looks like one of the best of the bunch.

Huperzine-A, a cholinesterase inhibitor derived from a species of club-moss is pretty inexpensive, although it doesn't compare to galantamine in my experience with both (galantamine is also an agonist at the alpha7 type of nicotinic acetylcholine receptor, giving it an additional mode of nootropic action in vivo. Its fucking expensive though, I'd love to be on it full time, but I just can't afford it, I am only on disability benefits...lol, I actually get PAID for being autistic, which is fucking sweet=D)

Huperzine-A is, however, an NMDA antagonist. NMDA antagonists are known to impair cognition and memory formation/retention. Anybody think this is likely to lessen the effectiveness of the drug?

I bet it would synergise pretty well with aniracetam or pramiracetam in particular, as both are known to have some degree of AMPAr PAM activity, which of course, leads to increased NMDAr mediated neurotransmission. Anybody tried the combination?

I'd LOVE to try phenylpiracetam, but I have thus far not been able to find a source :( It sounds like the creme de la creme of the 'racetam nootropics, even better than pramiracetam perhaps. Also appears to be somewhat of a stimulant.

I have a question also, regarding piracetam. I read that it has been used to treat myoclonus. I have a problem there, namely myoclonus, sometimes developing into full-blown myoclonic seizures, anybody tried using piracetam to treat myoclonus? Also, are the other 'racetams also effective against myoclonus? I'm fed up with living with it. It has led to some rather nasty accidents, such as my arm twitching, and driving my wrist down the length of a powerful circular saw blade, or another time, accidentally tossing acid on myself.

And does levetiracetam (keppra), an anticonvulsant, possess any nootropic properties? If so, I'd be interested in giving it a try to deal with my seizures and myoclonus. I currently just take chlormethiazole for the myoclonus and as an anticonvulsant, it does a great job, but it doesn't completely eradicate either my myoclonic jerks, muscle fasciculations or seizures. Certainly reduces them, but doesn't completely kill them off. I'm wondering if keppra might be a decent choice of anticonvulsant. Would be neat if it could kill two birds with one stone, both preventing seizures/myoclonic jerking, and acting as a nootropic in its own right.
 
Been meaning to get around to experimenting with some nootropics for quite some time. Finally purchased some noopept, pramiracetam, CDP choline, & huperzine-A. That sound like a pretty solid stack for a relative newb?

I'm also curious as to other's experiences with noopept as its rather new. There's plenty of info on the 'racetams, but noopept info seems a little scarce...
 
Huuum, is it a coincidence that you're from H-Town and so is the company I bought this bullshit from? I'm Taking Neuro Vortex Piracetam AND I DIDN't FEEL a fXXking thing after I TOOK 10 DAMN PILLS which equaled 8 grams man. There's no excuse for that. I should've felt something, there's no advice them crooked motherfXXkers could've given me for their fake shit pills not working.My girl didn't feel a fXXking thing either. The sXXt is fake point blank. It was too easy to find that website so therefor I should've known it was a scam! It fXXking sucks you have to take a chance by buying bullXXit products online all the fXXking time!

It shouldn't take 2-3 weeks for me to feel anything. I've read plenty reports and if you're taking legit piracetam you should feel effects within 45 minutes. And that's off of people taking under 4 gs. I TOOK 8!!! ANd didn't feel a fucking thing. You (SInce I know you work for them) Should offer a refund just like Onnit Labs with that shitty aXs ALpha Brain bullshit product.

Edit: Ok, the Piracetam is called Neuro Boost. Either way the sXXt fXXking sucks donkey dXXk.

Pure coincidence I don't work for Smart Drugs for Thought, and Houston is my birthplace I don't live there any longer. I didn't experience any effects when I first started taking Piracetam and a lot of people (from what I read) have experienced the same thing. Perhaps you are a non-responder? I've been taking their Piracetam after switching from Hard Rhino (couldn't stand capsuling by hand any longer) and didn't notice any kind of change in how I was effected by Piracetam.

Mega-dosing has never really been shown to be effective in getting the time for Piracetam to build up to be shortened. How long have you been taking the Piracetam, and if you really are in the belief that it is a scam you should contact them and see about getting a refund. Always look into who your buying from online, see if they have an Amazon.com or Ebay.com account and look at their reviews, that is part of the way that I came to order from who I do.

16 grams!?! Are you trying to have me kill myself? What is that, 20 fucking pills? Get the fuck out of here dude. Your product fucking licks monkey ass!

Was not telling you to to that, I was telling you what I have done.
 
Ok, sorry if this has already been addressed, but how on earth am I supposed to get a gram or more of Sulbutiamine down the hatch? The stuff is among the grossest chemicals I ever tasted (and believe me I tried a lot). It's beyond disgusting. I don't have a a capsule filling machine and neither neck&wash nor bombing turned out to be tolerable. Is there a liquid capable of masking the horrible taste? For the moment I've shelved my sample and won't touch it again until I stumble over a workable solution, which is a pity because the few experiments I undertook with it showed it suited my purposes quite well.
 
my vitamin/supplement stack is as follows now

gingko biloba
5-htp
balanced b-complex
L-theanine
a 'super antioxidant' it has extract from acai+ a number of different fruits and green tea
Lysine
Arginine
Magnesium
Vitamin C and vitamin E

then when I actually am going to a lecture or a class that I feel the need to 'cognitively enhance my brain' I fill a capsule with anywhere between 10 and 30 mg of Noopept, have a 500mg choline bitartrate, then if I can I eat some scrambled eggs for an extra choline boost.

It works great, I don't have that much time or money to eat as healthily as I should but a healthy regimen of vitamins in the morning makes me feel great all day.

and when I dose the Noopept I do get a noticeable feeling of 'electricity' or tinglyness that starts in the back of my head and protrudes into the center(I'm assuming because its effectively stimulating the corpus callosum) this is usually no more than 30 minutes after dosing.

The first dose of noopept I tried was unintentionally really high because my scale wouldn't weigh such a fluffy substance. I probably did about 40mg my first time and totally had a mind tingling sensation but eventually it turned into a slight headache. .....don't take more than you need :)
 
Been meaning to get around to experimenting with some nootropics for quite some time. Finally purchased some noopept, pramiracetam, CDP choline, & huperzine-A. That sound like a pretty solid stack for a relative newb?

I'm also curious as to other's experiences with noopept as its rather new. There's plenty of info on the 'racetams, but noopept info seems a little scarce...

Looks like a pretty stable yet powerful Nootropic Stack to me mate. How has it been going, or have your Noot's not arrived yet?
 
I prefer aniracetam over noopept. Noopept is strong, too strong imo. It grabs you by the balls and makes you focus, it feels a little dehumanizing. I can zone in on anything to the utmost extreme degree, but there is no emotion or beauty involved in it. It also has a tendency to make me extremely irritable, and messes with this nervous tic I have in my left eye where I feel the need to blink twice as much. After using it for a few days I feel like I can get mild headaches and depression as well. One thing it is useful for is if you or a friend is entirely fucked off alcohol/weed/ketamine/mxe, a bit of noopept under the tongue and you'll be cognizant in a heartbeat.


Aniracetam, on the other hand, is smooth, makes me feel like a slice o' butter meltin' on a big stack of flapjacks
 
Don't have much left of Noopept but i was taking it at doses of about 30-40mg. Didn't feel a thing. Upped the dose to 60mg see how it goes.My guess is the Piracetam i had been taking for about two months beforehand improved my brain to the extent that Noopept couldn't help any more.
 
Noopept must be taken sublingually. There is a drastic difference in feel/proper application between piracetam and noopept.

Your noopept should smell like mushrooms.
 
So my Noopept hasn't been working because i've been putting it into caps?
can't smell any "mushrooms" what the?
 
I don't recall it having a smell. It tastes mildly bitter when mixed into water.

Just my two cents though, ditch the piracetam and go for aniracetam.
 
Na i'll just stick with Piracetam as i've had luck with it. How much stronger is aniracetam? I may look into it after i finish this lot of pira

Edit , what dosage do you rwecommend? on a website it has Recommended dosage is 750-1500 mg daily
 
It's not necessarily about it being 'stronger'. Noopept is by far the 'strongest'. It's more about overall benefits. Piracetam did have mild cognitive enhancement, but it was subtle at best, and took many days of 2-3 doses a day to really notice good effects.

Aniracetam offers enhanced color saturation, ramped up visual processing capacity, vivid dream recall, strong anti-anxiety action, enhancement of anything else you take with it (caffeine, etc.), reduction of neurotoxicity of things like alcohol and MDMA, and a general sense of well-being. The only downside is it must be taken with a fat source, although this could be a good things for some, perhaps motivating one to take fish oil or something similar.

I have found that less is more with these drugs. The epic doses I often see recommended I have found to be a bit excessive. 250mg of ani seems ideal for me.
 
what on earth is a fat source? Can you take it without the fat source because my diet is pretty crappy & i'm assuming a fat source is in some healthy foods?
 
Looks like a pretty stable yet powerful Nootropic Stack to me mate. How has it been going, or have your Noot's not arrived yet?

Thanks for the reply :)

Yep, I've been toying around with dosage & stuff. Ended up canceling my huperzine order because I found a cheaper source but then decided I wasn't sure whether I trusted it or not... also cone across widely conflicting info regarding dose with that. Anywhere from 100mcg all the way up to 20mg Wtf?

Thinking about lowering some dosages because something is making me a little irratable.

When you guys are combining racetams and/or noopept do you lower dosages accordingly, or are the effects not additive?
 
^ Definitely lower accordingly. I realized there is such a thing as being too focused.
 
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