Mental Health Dysthymia and Suicide

I seriously doubt that you have tried every medication possible and every single avenue of treatment is exhausted. When you exhaust all paths then you can start to say such things, but doubt very much that you hvae and believe this is a hyperbolic statement on your part. If I am mistaken, feel free to correct me, but thats my input.

Keep trying till all paths are exhausted. But thats the key, you need to TRY!

I have been through this very thing. I never complete projects, I have only have a one or two (yes, barely 2) girlfriends, and have problems finding today even after i've sobered up. Most of it stems from lacking a father growing up, never receiving encouragement at the right times during my development and blah blah blah. After a point though, it becomes less about the cause for these things and more about the next step: what the fuck am I gonna do about it?

I do know how you feel, I have "been there." And I used to rely on my last girlfriend for my own confidence (I have a nice, awesome, and hot, girlfriend. I must rock!), but as you yourself have learned: when you rely on an external source for happiness, confidence, and self esteem, once it disappears....we were both fucked.

What have i done? I kept trying every single possible method of curing my inescapable sadness, my inescapable depression, that feeling of no longer wanting to live because I was a heroin addict, because I lost the only things I cared about, because how would I EVER FIND another girl like that?

And because I kept trying, and kept pushing on, I have perservered. I still do NOT have a girl, and want one more than anything. But that will come in time: i have become content with where I am in life, content to wait to reap the rewards of my positive behavior. I hope you can reach this point as well. Once again though, the trick is: you have to work, hard. You have to put everything you've got into it. You can no longer be lazy, you can no longer sit around waiting for the good stuff to happen, you must make it happen yourself.

If you don't? You're doomed to continue living the way you have been.

And you cant tell me "You dont know what its like." I DO know what its like, just as much as you do Thats honestly the only way. To GET TO THAT POINT, i have had to do therapy, group and regular, I have had to attend NA, I have had to submit myself to the humiliation of drug tests in order to fix that aspect of my fucked up miserable existence. But I am no longer miserable. Its POSSIBLE if you want it.

You can eventually reach a state of contention with your place in the universe, and become confidence that "good things will happen if you keep doing the right thing." I am no longer pissed that I dont have a girl, because I know if I keep putting in the work, keep doing the right thing, and keep true to the positive aspects of myself, it'll happen. The universe takes care of people who do the right thing. You have a purpose, a role that is yet to be fulfilled, which you are unaware of. if you didn't? you wouldn't be here, the universe would have taken you from us.

I know, and you know I know, all of this.
But it's like telling a person in a wheel chair "just get up and walk you lazy c*nt"...
The paradox, the real crux of the matter, is that I want to be social and talk to people soo badly, but, when the moment comes I freak out. I turn the other way, it's like my head explodes with fears and ideas, and I just can't do it. So I avoid, ignore, procrastinate, defuse, circumvent, suppress...
I once had a lump on my testicle I didnt tell ANYONE about for five years. I should be DEAD. But I learned how to suppress and ignore. I'm a pro.

Worst of all is not my behaviour, but the reaction. They way people look at me, they way THEY avoid me because they know that if they talk to me or even look at me, I will fall apart like usual... Sweating, trembling, stammering, etc. It's HUMILIATING. Like being handicapped. I just can't do it.
So, now, when I meet people I know I feel a) Usual fear and b) the shame and burn of knowing They know how shy and awkward I am.

So... I WON'T meet a girl like that again because I never meet ANYONE anymore. I am unable to make any contact and, guess what, unlike the movies, nice girls and people don't actually walk up to the quiet guy in the corner and tell them they love them....
I managed to meet the Love of My Life because I was at a small school that was filled with people like me: Insecure people, shy people, people who had been bullied. A stroke of luck. Most schools are filled mainly with confident happy people.
So, I missed the train, so to speak.

I can't explain how much I loved her. How much she changed everything. SHE was the only working medicine. And she took it away. SHE has the cure, but refuses to let me have, so she is responsible for my suicide.

Sure, there are other girls like her out there. But how will I meet them? If KNOW I could get a girl "like" that to love me again, but I never get the chance. Either I avoid her all together OR I am competing with confident attractive cool people who act as if I don't exist.
What girl wants a loser? ...a social cripple?

My ex actually apologized to me a few weeks ago. For letting me be alone with the pain, for just abandoning me, for driving me to drug addiction over her...
I have never had anyone, and she knows it, and she just left.
People at my school can SEE I am in pain and am shy.... Do they care? NO!

I hate the world that rejected me.
And I want OUT.
 
And I will never find anyone else. Not by sitting alone all day. Which is all I am able to do.
Why can't someone help me???
If I kill myself, THEN they will know. THEN they will understand. As will SHE.
That would be such a relief. Such a peace.

What is stopping me really?

Exactly. You won't find someone when you're not looking.
You're capable of meeting someone. Everyone is. The irony of it is, it's easier to make friends when you've got friends.
When you really need somebody, and there's nobody there to help you, it's harder.
The thing is, it doesn't matter how many 'friends' you have, that introduce you to more people, if you're not feeling the bond/love it doesn't matter.
You're able to meet people if you look. Whether you can find meaning and love from that interaction is something different.

Killing yourself won't give you any validation. There is no 'you' to get that validation.
You have to help yourself. If you have an aversion to that, nobody will be able to aid you.
Killing yourself to 'prove' something is just absurd.
 
The irony of it is, it's easier to make friends when you've got friends.

This...this...THIS is the bane of my existence! I know it all too well. I never had friends as a kid (for many reasons) and THEREFORE I never have been able to make friends.
Never. Everytime I meet someone it's always that awkward moment when they realize I know no one else... And they sort of run, because they dont want to carry me alone.
Also, having friends gives you a social support... Without which you have no confidence to make new friends.
Like I have written here, I think, it's like having no money; In order to get a job (money) you need a home (i.e. money). So, to make friends, you need friends.
Well, I have none.
So, I never make friends. Which is unfair. No?
But why is that? Is it because most people, people with friends, don't want new friends who dont have friends because they dont want to carry that person alone, to have Full responsibility? Or does it freak them out?
It just makes me SOO f*****g angry and filled with hatred.... I'm sorry, but it does.
My parents never made sure I had friends... Is it still my fault? All the friends I ever made have left me. My fault?
Would the average person make it without friends? I don't think so.
 
If you're just looking for people to have a good time with, as opposed to building a meaningful and intimate relationship, maybe hit up the clubs and have a bit of that nice European MDMA and see where that takes you?
I don't know, I don't want friends in the sense of the majority of friendships I've seen others have. I want someone to love, and care for, and open up to, and blah blah blah look at me I'm lonely and loveless.
 
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It is not at all like telling someone in a wheel chair "just get up you lazy cunt". The fact that you even equate that to speaks volumes. Here is the difference:

They are UNABLE to walk. You CAN walk, you just have not yet learned to. Or youre too lazy. Either way, there is such a difference its mind boggling that you even suggested they were the same.

Lifes hard man. All this shits hard. You dont think I'd wish I could just make a new friend by snapping my fingers> Or that I wish I could have a girlfriend for the first time in 2 years in much the same? takes fucking hard work, dedication, perseverance. People have seemingly forgotten this: that you cannot be lazy. I think its a byproduct of having EVERYTHING accessible at the touch of a button: media, books, food, clothing. Press a button? BOOM! Gets shipped to your house/played on your TV/etc.

We think we no longer should have to work at this shit, just like you think you should be able to "make friends" without doing any of the hard work that goes along WITH making friends. Its takes fucking work man. It really does. It takes a lot of hard fucking work to overcome obstacles.

You are LITERALLY blaming EVERYONE ELSE for your woes, just as i did. "Its HER FAULT that I will commit suicide" say that out loud to yourself: does that make any fucking sense?

-"Its everyone elses fault I have no friends, even though I profess that I do not put myself in a position to make friends." Say that out loud.
-"I have these problems because of childhood." That may be true, but you still have to DEAL with those problems, despite them not being a result of your own actions.

I understand your pain, and your position far better than you imagine. I had my heart broken too. I still love her. Shes getting married. I used heroin to numb the pain and slowly commit suicide. I have problems meeting girls too, getting dates. I have the same fucking problems that you do. But I keep putting in the work and it will pay off. You it seems want everything done and handed to you, as I once did. Unfortunately the world does not work that way, despite the conditioning we have received telling us that it should.

Man don't you think I want a girl too? Or even better, my old love? But I realize that its not the fault of every girl out there that I dont have one, but rather its my own fault for not looking hard enough/in the right places for one who wants me. Just like its not my ex's fault that she left me, but rather mine own for being (at the time) an irresponsible junkie.

Shoulder some of the responsibility man. You literally have blamed everything BUT yourself. It seems to me you believe that youre perfect, you can do no wrong, and all the wrongs you have suffered are a result of OTHER PEOPLES. Does that make ANY SENSE to you if you say it out loud? I thought similarly to you, until i had the realization that it makes absolutely 0 fucking sense; it makes not a single iota of sense when looked at logically.

I had to learn everything i just typed on my own. I hope this input helps speed up the process of getting to where I currently am. And yes, a lot of it IS a result of ones childhood: my parents didn't love me enough, they weren't there, they never validated what I did. My dad never showed me how to woe a girl, or how to ask one on a date, or how to throw a fucking baseball even. Yes, that was all outside of my control.

But at what point do i say: the cause of my woes is irrelevant, only the SOLUTION is relevant. At what point does it become YOUR responsibility to change YOUR life.



You have two options as i see it:
1) profess that you have no control over your life, nor the suffering you've endured. To make such admission, that you are powerless, and that it is all a result of fate/forces outside of your control, will mean that you have no right to complain. Because after all, if its all outside of your control and is a result of fate/god/etc, you cannot become mad because thats just how its meant to be.

2) Profess that you have a modicum of control over your life, and start exercising that control.

Surrender control and go along for the ride, or grab the wheel and do some steering on your own. Just don't complain that the driver took you to the wrong fucking place because you sat there idly while it all happened, saying and doing nothing to correct him.
 
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Work on building your confidence. I had extreme social anxiety at some point and what helped me was practicing talking to people. You cant become confident with anything unless you PRACTICE, even if you think you fucked up during a social interaction, dont focus on it, pick yourself up and keep trying. It's hard but some shit isn't easy, it's really up to you whether you want to improve yourself, it's hard but it's worth it and certainly feels better than wallowing in self-pity, trust me. Do you have any hobbies that you like to do on your own? Are you passionate about anything in life? Developing a hobby and enjoying being by yourself can build confidence. Once you learn to like yourself, other people will pick up on that and you will become more approachable. Practice breathing and relaxation techniques for your anxiety in social situations. Meditate. Practice mindful thinking. Develop your spirituality. Exercise and eat healthy. Or you can keep feeling sorry for yourself. The choice is yours, good luck.
 
you sound like i do when im not taking antidepressants. i was also diagnosed with dysthymia among a other things.. i have social issues, i get so nervous that i cant function when im in public, find it impossible to talk to people, feel like i have no friends, am suspicious of others intentions, and feel like they are "better" than me and i am not worthy.

it sounds like your stuck in a negative thinking cycle. cognitive behavioral therapy is supposed to help change negative and incorrect thought patters, which eventually become so ingrained into your mind after years of depression/low self esteem/ that you falsely start believing that everything you think is the absolute truth, and that other people must see you the way that you see yourself. the truth is you don't know what others are thinking about you, and it sounds like you assume people must view you negatively, because that's the way you see yourself for some reason.

anyways, so alot of the issues you seem to be having i can relate to. i deal with it by taking ssri's & counseling. But if your realllly feeling, like there's no hope, no reason to live, before you make any rash decisions that you cant take back... I think it would be a good idea to just go to a psychiatric clinic for a little while. im not saying i think your crazy or anything. but they can help you there. i was at one a few months ago and honestly it was the best decision id ever made. your in an environment where people want to help you, there's other people who are feeling similar to the way you do, you don't feel as alone, and you can meet people and talk to them without feeling as threatened. You can get daily therapy to help you deal with your depression and social anxiety & your past & your away from the stresses of everyday life for awhile... Honestly talking to a therapist on a daily basis is way more effective than going for an hour once a week, which i haven't found to be very effective. I think that it could really help you, i know it did for me i just wish i had stayed longer because i left before i was ready. Its not a weakness, and it doesn't mean your insane... there's a reason why places like this exist, to help people when they are feeling down about themselves and want to end their life. Theres some really nice facilities out there. People do want to help and you are not alone in your suffering! & if you feel an immediate urge to end your life, please go to the nearest hospital or call an ambulance!
 
dysthymia sounds exactly like depression to me and i also fit all the symptoms of dysthymia you listed

things i think that help to break out of the cycle of sadness and isolation

- dont avoid feeling anxious or depressed
working out why we feel shitty and getting through that process without numbing the pain with drugs
- exercise 30 minutes every day (jog/yoga)
my mood is lifted noticeably and sleep improved when i wear myself out
- if you live in a sunny area, try to sunbathe for 30 minutes (15 on each side) on warmer sunny days
this also improves my mood for the rest of the day

that being said i am still very down most of the time but people around me say they are noticing improvement over time (i think the negative voices try hide that)
 
dysthymia is a nightmare..it is a never-ending(to me at least) funk that you cant snap out of...hot women, big muscles, sports achievements, material possessions do NOTHING to help...the low mood is there almost constantly unless my brain is flooded with endorphins from exercise.the physical exhaustion alone from dysthymia is brutal, im a strong guy and look fit yet i have the energy of an 80 year old some days..i have always had it..chronic emptiness..whats worse is when you do have these little spans of time when you feel ok you know damn well the darkness is coming back soon..many many days it seems pointless to continue the journey as whats the point if its just a battle to function?
 
^^i have and they work to a very small degree but cause their own side effects..
 
A big part of the problem is that everyone at school ignores me now. Because of the depression I've failed to make any bonds, and been to down to be nice and polite. So when I DO show up somewhere, people just pretend I'm not there and the atmosphere becomes unbearable...
Where Wolf really helped me get through these things, and helped me power through. Now that he's gone... I'm not sure what to do.
 
I can not offer any real help, as im fighting much of the same battles, but one thing ive learned is having a balance is important. face your fears head on. embrace them. then they'll start to disappear. it takes a lot of time and a similar amount of energy, but things can get better.. end your desire, and your suffering, too will disappear.
 
It is said that people with depression prefer the certainty of misery than the misery of uncertainty. In other words, depressed people like perfection, we are affraid to do things because we are afraid that we're gonna look bad or that we're going to fail. We never get out of the comfort zone to do the things we are meant to do on this Earth because of fear. We dont want to be fallible human beings, we want to be like perfect demigods or gods. I think the great fear is that we're afraid of the ridicule. So we just drift directionless in life.
I often caught myself thinking "I've fucked up my life pretty bad and I'm already 22 years old, so why dont I just off myself, I already wasted so much life". It is hard to counter that thought. The thing is, I'm 22 year old, healthy, show no signs of dying anytime soon so may have 40, 50 years to live. I can use that time to finally start doing the things I've been afraid to do up to now. The past 22 years have been fucked anyway but I can change my story. I cant change my past but I can start again, humbly this time, and salvage some of my life.
I'm dystimic and have dystimic parents, thats for sure. I can see in them the defects of character, which are pretty much the same ones that I have, but it's harder to see in myself. I just think their life is ridiculous, they are afraid and they've been afraid to do meaningful things their whole life and they have this negativity, this misery in them that they try to poison everyone around with. It's fuckin ridiculous, I cant stand them. And the worse is that I know for a FACT that I'm much like them, and if I dont take care of myself I'm gonna end up just like them. It's kinda my motivation to live lately, to live a life that is going to be completely different than the life my parents lead.
 
It is said that people with depression prefer the certainty of misery than the misery of uncertainty. In other words, depressed people like perfection, we are affraid to do things because we are afraid that we're gonna look bad or that we're going to fail. We never get out of the comfort zone to do the things we are meant to do on this Earth because of fear. We dont want to be fallible human beings, we want to be like perfect demigods or gods. I think the great fear is that we're afraid of the ridicule. So we just drift directionless in life.
I often caught myself thinking "I've fucked up my life pretty bad and I'm already 22 years old, so why dont I just off myself, I already wasted so much life". It is hard to counter that thought. The thing is, I'm 22 year old, healthy, show no signs of dying anytime soon so may have 40, 50 years to live. I can use that time to finally start doing the things I've been afraid to do up to now. The past 22 years have been fucked anyway but I can change my story. I cant change my past but I can start again, humbly this time, and salvage some of my life.
I'm dystimic and have dystimic parents, thats for sure. I can see in them the defects of character, which are pretty much the same ones that I have, but it's harder to see in myself. I just think their life is ridiculous, they are afraid and they've been afraid to do meaningful things their whole life and they have this negativity, this misery in them that they try to poison everyone around with. It's fuckin ridiculous, I cant stand them. And the worse is that I know for a FACT that I'm much like them, and if I dont take care of myself I'm gonna end up just like them. It's kinda my motivation to live lately, to live a life that is going to be completely different than the life my parents lead.

Hi, Dre.
You know, I feel just the same regarding my folks. My soul motivation, for a long time in life, was to do whatever I could to get away from my parents way of life. I refused to take a job, study anything practical and became an artist. I NEVER wanted to just tow the line and have a dead end job and a loveless but comfortable marriage. My parents aren't dysthymic, I think, but my mother is certainly depressed, pain killer addict and has post-trauma. My father has never had anything to be depressed about, he has never really lived. He has lived a quiet silent life with no hope or dreams and is perfectly willing to live dominated by my mother, once in a while getting drunk in that passive aggressive way.

I wanted to get away from that eery silence and gloom that hung around my childhood home, you know? My parents had no friends, my mother alienated everyone in the family. So we lived alone. Every day alone, stuck in that house. I had no friends as a kid, and the day I started school I began to get bullied.
I've lost every friend I've ever had.
My first true love gave me some confidence, but ultimately her abandonment eventually just made things worse. She left me because she felt "stuck with me", she wanted to meet people but my shyness and anxiety made her feel she had to stay inside with me all day... Ironic, no? Just like my folks.
But the really painful thing is that her leaving made me trust people less. Compared then to now, I was "normal" back then. These days I can barely leave my house. And it just gets worse.
She made me distrust everyone. I am so afraid of rejection now I am not able to form ANY bonds. "They'll just leave". SHE DID THAT.

She committed the GREATEST sin, to me, which is she gave me hope. She gave me hope in myself, hope in life, hope in my talent as a writer. Then she took ALL of that away.

I'll be brief with this: It is a wonder I havent committed suicide yet. First of all I have always been afraid of people. I've been rejected my entire life. THEN I meet this girl who tells me I'm the greatest guy in the world. One moment I'm a nobody, the next I'm Mr. Bigshot. But, then she decides the wants out and instead of telling me 'we need to talk', she just sends me a mail: "It's over". One moment connected at the soul, the next I never see her again. One moment psychotic love, the next: strangers.
Why didn't I just kill myself?
Because, of course, I could never trust anyone again. Of course, by breaking up that way, I would forever idealize her and that time. She knew that. Five years later, I'm still not over her. It was the WORST possible thing to happen, and I SHOULD be dead! Only constant drug abuse has kept me going in denial.

I'm not looking for pity, but more to be an example, there but for the grace of God go I.
I will always lover her, it will never stop hurting, and I am surviving only under the influence of hard drugs. I hate her and I love her. End of...
 
I can relate to a lot of what you feel, that was most of my young life. I am sorry you hurt so much, but allow me, with the privelege of my advanced age, to give you some advice.

You cannot wait for someone to "fix" you or give you confidence...that is too great a burden to place upon another human being. Enough to make a lot of people run away. If you approach a relationship looking for this, it will fail in the end everytime, regardless of how giving, loving, smart, perfect, etc. the other person is. If the relationship that you had truly gave you hope and confidence, then the other person would not have been able to take those things away from you when she left.

I wasted a LOT of years in destructive, unhealthy, and unproductive relationships. I know.

I always hated the saying "If you don't love yourself, you can't love someone else." but the older I get, the more I realize that it is true. At least I know that if you aren't happy alone, you won't be happy with anyone else.

I believe strongly that meds, therapy, and just plain old life experience can help you break out of all your negative thinking. But you have to accept that YOU are the only one who can really help yourself.

As for suicide...I can offer no good reason not to. I can just tell you that, despite all the pain and suffering, I am damned sure glad I didn't do it.
Things can change, not just for the worst, in a minute. It is worth sticking around to see what happens next.

I hope the best for you,
Peace,

C.
 
I can relate to a lot of what you feel, that was most of my young life. I am sorry you hurt so much, but allow me, with the privelege of my advanced age, to give you some advice.

You cannot wait for someone to "fix" you or give you confidence...that is too great a burden to place upon another human being. Enough to make a lot of people run away. If you approach a relationship looking for this, it will fail in the end everytime, regardless of how giving, loving, smart, perfect, etc. the other person is. If the relationship that you had truly gave you hope and confidence, then the other person would not have been able to take those things away from you when she left.

I wasted a LOT of years in destructive, unhealthy, and unproductive relationships. I know.

I always hated the saying "If you don't love yourself, you can't love someone else." but the older I get, the more I realize that it is true. At least I know that if you aren't happy alone, you won't be happy with anyone else.

I believe strongly that meds, therapy, and just plain old life experience can help you break out of all your negative thinking. But you have to accept that YOU are the only one who can really help yourself.

As for suicide...I can offer no good reason not to. I can just tell you that, despite all the pain and suffering, I am damned sure glad I didn't do it.
Things can change, not just for the worst, in a minute. It is worth sticking around to see what happens next.

I hope the best for you,
Peace,

C.

Of course. I mean, who wants to be with a miserable git who just complains and is sad all the time, and that you can't have fun with because he's always depressed over something. A lot of friends have left me because, quote: "it was too much misery, too much lament, too much" The great irony is that I'm sad because people leave me, and they leave me because I'm sad. Whenever I, or the few times, I establish a relationship with someone, I'm immediately suspicious, cautious, knowing it might end any time. So I don't allow myself to take it for granted, refusing to be "fooled" again into thinking this will last. Would the stay more if I was happy-go-lucky? Maybe. But the pattern is set in my brain. I know they will leave, and I know, too well, the pain and humiliation of being happy over something that was, in the end, nothing. Ashamed over thinking she would _ever actually take the relationship seriously.
I feel that, a deep shame, in thinking that She would actually ever stay. I look back and I feel a burn in that I was stupid enough that I could ever be enough for her. That I was fooled into thinking I was good enough, when my entire life I've been told I'm worthless. By the time I finally started relaxing, by the time I started thinking She was it, that she really loved me, I let my guard down and she left.
So, it's no big mystery. I get fooled time and time again. Having someone love you so insanely, when you've spent so much time alone and lonely, and then having that person leave the moment you reveal yourself truly... it's a pain and experience that cannot help but put a mark on you. It makes concrete what was before a sneaking suspicion, it confirms the nightmare. _You can't trust anyone_ They WILL leave, they will leave you behind to die. "I'm glad you got away, but I'm still stuck out here." When she left, with that e-mail, I never saw her again. She knew I was unstable, that's why she left, but how could she just leave me behind like that? She knew I was fragile, afraid and had no confidence, she knew she was everything to me. And still, one day true love, the next: You're on your own, kiddo. She knew her leaving would tear me apart. And yet she did it. Without even thinking: I should help him through this, make sure he stays alive, and lessen the trauma for the next one. But she didnt. She cared so deeply, so much emotion, and then: Nothing. I could have committed suicide, I could have done harm to myself or others. She didnt care anymore. Who can you stop caring? I mean, OK, you stop loving, but not loving someone anymore doesnt mean you couldn't care less if that person lived or died.... Was it guilt? Was she aware that she had done something horrible, leave me alone with _no_ friends or support, but unable to deal with it? She knew what she did, but instead of facing it she ran away... I've spoken with her briefly, and she does feel guilt. And I want her to. I want the guilt to destroy her. I'm sorry. She destroyed, possibly, my entire life. I will never recover. She knows.

True, you shouldnt ask a partner to fix you, or look for a nurse rather than a partner. But how can you not? Love is the perfect medicine: Confidence, purpose, reason. Most people feel better when they find their partner. They can pretend its incidental, but its now. And when you are SO broken, so afraid, to destroyed by people, how can you not want someone to make it alright? You know it has in the past. I need someone who truly loves, without leaving, without rejecting. THEN, if that last for a long period of time, then, maybe, I can trust people and start loving and not thinking of how that person is affecting me, or how they are curing me. My pain stems from the rejection, the deceit, the cure, simple: someone who doesnt.

I dont see the logic in how a person can give confidence but not take it away. She believed in me therefore I did; When she did not, I didn't. She believed I was special, important and worthy. Then she stopped thinking that, therefore I must have stopped being it.
It's simple, be it writing or anything creative or just being a human, if someone is there to tell me I'm good at it, encourage me, then I excel, I prosper, I do good. With noone there to remind me, tell me, convince me, I start to doubt, and falter. Sure, that means I have no internal authority, and need external authority regarding my quality, but how can I not? How can I not when what remains is all the times I was told I was worthless? When people stop congratulating you it usually means they are no longer proud, no longer impressed.
And most people base their confidence in others. In their family, friends, partners. Actors, painters, writers, producers, they do what people like so that people will like them. Same with people, it's seeking comfort and avoiding pain: We do what we know will make people like us. We increase what is well-received and decrease what is not.
Bottom line: I've never had long-lasting friends, so I don't have what most people have, I don't have someone around to encourage me, support me in crisis, remind me who I am and what. So when I fall I fall alone and hard, no one to pick me up. And success means nothing because noone is around to see it, to share it with.
Life is NOTHING if not shared.

I AM the only one who can save myself, but in order to do that, I need to believe in myself, and to do that, I need confirmation externally. My parents never gave me this, thus the dysthymia. No support, to praise, just pointing out when I screw up and focusing on the negative.

I am tired of sounding like a drama queen though. I really should just get it over with and kill myself. THEN they would know, then they would understand what they did, or failed to do.

"I never could quite make it. These feelings are too much for me"
 
AnrBjotk you seem kinda like a "love addict", someone gave you a boost in confidence for years and now you dont have it anymore so you are mourning/withdrawing. I went to similar stuff myself, although it wasnt so clear cut and so intense as yours. That's what happens with people like us, who place our expectations of happiness in people, places or things...we are doomed to fail. It seems cliche but is truth
 
Some times, like right now, I wish I had the guts to do it. I wish I wanted to commit suicide hard enough and just do it. Instead sitting here with all these "what ifs", and the vague hope of something happening. The contrast of my life now, or lack thereof, and my life before is unbearable. The stink, the rotting sensation of this depression is too hard, too much. Do I blame others? Yes. Maybe I wasnt clear: It is not the other peoples fault anymore than mine, _but_ they left me and I had no way of dealing with it, and they/she left knowing I had none. It would be so easy to do it right now. And every time it feels more real.
I take my meds, I do my subs, but they're not helping anymore. My pain is this beast that just keeps swallowing the meds and laughing "is that all you got?" and the more meds, the stronger the beast becomes to beat them.
My life never got better, chances are it never will. There was a time I had the energy and will to make a change, to do something, but I wasted that. And now... I cant even go out the doors, even though I have exams and a lot of obligation. But just the air outside sickens me..
 
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