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Heroin Did I get UK brown dope??

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Yesterday I bought a half a bund of some H. And it was powder, glassine envelope, no stamp. fairly fat bags.

When I poured it into the cooker though it was super brown and mostly didn't disolve in water. Now every other time I shot up I NEVER had this. So I just stirred the best I could, used a larger cotton to filter, sucked up, banged.

Now I DID feel it (infact it was actually pretty good) but I couldn't help but wonder..maybe if I used vite c I woulda got higher? But if it was uk dope I wouldnt have felt it without vit c correct?

PLease help.

thx. :D
 
I'm from the U.K and have never shot anything without using vir c/citric.

I was gonna try shooting some the other day without using vit c because I've heard of friends sniffing dope here and getting high off it (which makes no sense if it was base).

But at the moment I can't afford to experiment with these things, so I just use vit c every time.

Also, most people I know don't seem to know if the dope here is #2 or #3

From what I know, the dope here is all from Afghanistan.
 
I don't think anyone could possibly know if it is uk dope or if vit c could of made you higher.

I'm not sure if where the dope came from matters besides quality.

I'll leave this open for a few to see if there possible is a answer as I don't do heroin and have never seen it in person.
 
Cornishman said:
Yeah, the water goes discoloured but the majority of it isn't soluble.

Once heated with vit c it goes into a clear brown liquid.
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Also...im slightly confused...seeing as I got high...why add the vite c?

And arent all opiats almost (atleast diamorphine) water soluble???

BTW Im also in NY.
 
I ask myself the same question.

How come people can get high from snorting the stuff when they need vit c in order to inject it?

I've heard (albeit not from anywhere I'd call reliable) that U.K dope is #3 heroin, and #3 heroin is a mix of caffeine and #4.
If that's the case then no one need use vit c?

Or, if it really is base, then maybe base is slightly water soluble?
 
Cornishman said:
I ask myself the same question.

How come people can get high from snorting the stuff when they need vit c in order to inject it?

I've heard (albeit not from anywhere I'd call reliable) that U.K dope is #3 heroin, and #3 heroin is a mix of caffeine and #4.
If that's the case then no one need use vit c?

Or, if it really is base, then maybe base is slightly water soluble?
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wELL IF IT'S SLIGHTLY THAN THAT DOPE IS OFF THE CHAIN CAUSE i WAS NODDING HARD...sorry caps lock.

And I will admit..whn I injected it I got a ODD feeling like I just did cocaine...so the caffiene thing makes alot of sense.
 
I think you can snort our gear due to the Ph of the nose adjusting itself, although no doubt you will get higher IV'ing it. I've snorted #3 and got an alright buzz, mind you I preferred smoking it due to the taste but was pretty crap at it.
 


If you go to 1:20 you will see that it doesn't dissolve at all without citric. Looks like your dope just had an insoluble cut in it.
 
Tommyboy said:


If you go to 1:20 you will see that it doesn't dissolve at all without citric. Looks like your dope just had an insoluble cut in it.
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What would explain the brown color then?

AND WOW! That is ALOT of dope for a 10 pound bag

AND DAMN!!! 97mg of heroin out of 130mg!!! That is GREAT dope.
 
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Cornishman said:
That sure looks like what we get here in the U.K (the 2nd pic).
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This.
I'm in the UK and that's exactly what our dope looks like. We always need to use vit c or citric to dissolve for injection.
It is worth trying anyway. You don't really have anything to loose. Make sure you use the smallest amount possible as both are really bad for your veins. Citric more so than vit c. Whatever you do don't use lemon or orange juice are this has bacteria which can cause blindness if IV'd.
@cornishman; I've snorted our normal stuff and gotten high before, seems to work.
 
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80mg said:
What would explain the brown color then?
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The cut or the impurities left in the original product. I've gotten some really brown dope a few times and it worked really well with snorting it but I didn't shoot so no idea how it would dissolve.
 
Yeah it could either be a bunch of cut on some really good dope or I've had similar experiences where it sort of broke down but not fully, I usually don't think of it but when I have added vitamin c/citric acid it has immediately fixed the problem. My friend thinks it's because it wasn't fully refined, like something in between #3 and #4 which as far as I can see makes sense...
 
^ Either that or the cut itself required an acidic solvent to allow it to dissolve.
 
Hey guys, I'll share what I know from chemistry.

Cornishman, the reason your base lets off a color in the water isn't actually because the base is soluble, it's because the color that comes through from the processing are pigments called tannins. Tannins actually exist in the acidic state in nature, so it's Tannic acid, and we know from our knowledge that acidic things are water soluble (think #4 HCl) so that part would actually dissolve giving you the color.
Also, I call the brown base #2, as you're right #3 is just #4 made conducive for smoking. Look up eutectic mixture on wikipedia and it explains why (it actually just lowers the melting point below the combustion point, so in the end it vaporizes faster so it doesn't burn.) People call it #3 because they say #2= morphine base ===> heroin base. So they say, number two starts off as morphine base, therefore it isn't heroin base. So you see where that argument comes from.
We know that bases can still pass mucus membranes, just not very well (think sublingual benzos). While you're right, soluble things pass through very easily.
I would have to agree with Tommy when he says that it was probably some highly cut product that 80mg had and was probably just not washed up that well, so that gave it the brown color with those tannins staining it. Caffeine is a pretty common cut these days in just about everything so that very well could have been in the #4. Just since it was used as a cut doesn't necessarily mean it was #3.

Hopefully some of that info will be useful and is easy to understand. But yeah, check out the eutectic mixture thing and that explains why true #3 is made with caffeine.
 
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