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lsdaamn

lsdaamn

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Im new to opiates except a few mg of xanax but I just got a few m365 that have 325mg apap and 5mg hydrocodone. I have a very low tolerance and was wondering how many should it take to get a buzz. I also got some m358 that have 500mg apap and 7.5mg hydro.
 
With opioids it is always best to start low and then take more later as needed, since they don't affect everyone the same (well that's a good idea with any new drug actually). And it's better/safer to take too little than too much (you can always take more but you can't undo it if you take too much).

Xananx is not an opioid, it is a benzodiazepine. So if you have only tried Xanax then you haven't tried any opioids.

Since you have no tolerance, I would start with 2 pills for a total of 10mg or 15mg of hydrocodone depending on which ones you take. See how that affects you and you can always take more next time, or you can take some more after a few hours if you're still not feeling much. Opioids can be very subtle and sometimes people new to them don't think they're working because they just make you feel content, comfortable and kinda warm and sleepy. Most people new to opioids use about 10-20mg of hydrocodone. But some people are going to be more sensitive to it and some are going to get little effects from it, it depends on your metabolism.

Also, you probably won't need to and (shouldn't) take enough for it to matter, but just so you know, you don't want to take more than about 3000mg APAP in 24 hrs, nor do you want to be taking very much APAP on a regular basis. And make sure you don't mix alcohol or Xanax/benzos with hydrocodone.
 
I have plenty of .25 and a few .5 xanax so I've only take maybe 1.5-2mg earlier today. And I was a idiot and forgot my m358s but have about 10-15 m362s. Since they're 325mg apap and 5mg hydrocodone I took 2 m365.
 
How long ago did you take the Xanax? As I already said, it's really not a good idea to mix benzodiazepines and opioids. If you take them together it makes them stronger, including the risk of serious side effects and overdose. It's something you want to be really careful with because many people have died from mixing the two types of drugs. I wouldn't take any more hydrocodone or Xanax. I think you should be ok because you only took 10mg of the hydrocodone, but please be more careful in the future - you should really be taking these drugs separately, especially since you have not tried opioids before and don't know how you will react.

How long has it been since you took each drug and how are you feeling right now?
 
too much APAP (acetaminophen, paracetamol in UK) can be harmful to your liver like swimmingdancer said, and personally I would not exceed 3000 milligrams APAP in 24 hours, however several sources I found set the daily APAP limit at 4000 milligrams. Also alcohol not only dangerously potentiates opiates, the alcohol also interferes with the body's ability to break down APAP and becomes toxic at lower doses than the 4000mg per day limit. Be careful and have fun!
 
I took a mg of xanax bout 3-4 hours ago. Now I'm just relaxed. Nothing out of the usual but I would think it would take a little longer to for the effects. I've read about apap so I'm trying to make sure I don't go too high. I took a darvocet a lot early but it did nothing for me.
 
Just a little something I put together a while ago, it's information about taking APAP aka Tylenol. While you may not think this fits in this post, I believe it fits perfectly especially for someone who is very new to taking and or experimenting with pain medications for a buzz, especially when the first drug you mention is basically Percs. And no don't worry, I am not judging you nor saying not to do it, personally it doesn't matter to me either way, just if it is something you plan on doing, you should at least be informed as to some of the dangers, and this is the largest danger that people who are new to opiates can accidentally find themselves in trouble with. Be Safe, be informed! :)

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/595640-Tylenol-APAP-acetaminophen-Common-Question-quot-How-much-is-too-much-quot-Answers?highlight=apap
 
Thanks for the info but there's no way I'm takin more than 2 percs a day. I doubt ill even take one since I didn't feel any different after two. I might try CWE and try again but i might just stay with xanax. Does xanax have apap etc. that I should worry about?
 
there is no apap in xanax. simply the xanax and the inert filler and binders which compound the pill.
 
lsdaamn said:
Good good but why do the Dr. always give out .25 and .5mg instead of the bars?
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because medications come in differnt doses based on your tolerance, age, weight, and what you need the medication for.

and youll need to take about 30mg of hydrocodone to start feeling good. dont pussyfoot around and waste your vikes.

god damit do i miss being able to get rocked off a few Vicodin :\

sadly those days are long gone tho. Its a shame because as far as euphoria goes hydro blows oxy out of the water for me.
 
lsdaamn said:
Good good but why do the Dr. always give out .25 and .5mg instead of the bars?
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Keep in mind that the Dr's goal (generally) is to try and prescribe the least amount of scheduled medications needed to treat your condition based on all the factors that Dais said as well by the law of scheduled medications. Scheduled medications are highly addictive and highly abused, there for their goal is to really not have you on them, but if you are to be on them they are bound by ethic and law to insure that they are prescribing a dose that is indicated for your medical / mental condition as well as your physical condition. This is the reason that Dr's barely prescribe pain medications anymore and why you now usually have to see a pain specialist. Dr's are highly liable for any ill effects the medication may have as well as if you become addicted to them. Hence all the laws... It's an evil circle and one that pisses me off, but thats a story for another day :)
 
you dont need to do a cwe if you only plan on eating 10-30mgs at once, it is kind of pointless IMO. as long as you don't drink with the hydros, you should be fine. be warned, once you start mixing opiates and benzos, just taking opiates or benzos alone will not be the same, and then you are a cross-addicted fuck who sleeps on park benches and neighborhood bathrooms. been there, done that, definitely not worth fucking around with opiates or benzos.

sell the benzos/opiates or flush them down the toilet
 
Alright you got to be carefull about combining the opys and benzos. I have seen a couple friends overdose from that cocktail. It will knock you out and your breathing will be diffcult and wont even know it becasue youll be in a deep sleep.
When you take the hydro next time when your sobar with nothing in your system, take 15mg. That should be enough to get you feelin good if not take another 5mg 30min. to an 1hr. after your first intial 15mg dose. I really wouldent worry about doing a CWE with that low of a dose...as long as you dont plan on doing this everyday youll be fine.
Have fun and be safe
 
Ya I did a CWE on shit I don't even kno how much. It think it was about 30-35mg hydrocodone and it had me pretty gone especially with no sleep last night.
 
I really enjoy people's feed back on hydro threads! Most people will say "that's pussy shit eat 20 morphine pills and drink some vodka bro!" no.... These are retards trying to produce harm vs reduce it.... But anyways im pretty experienced in opiates and I started on hydros that I would steal from my mom and I was content with 4-5 500mgs of apap and 5mgs of good shit lol and that had me so fucked up I had to sit down to nod off somewhere but then my tolerance grew and I started taking incredibly high amounts without CWE and that caused me to get stomach ulcers and when those were to much I upgraded to oxy and that was a whole other world entirely! That soon got to be to expensive since I used to steal the hydro and had to buy the oxy for 50 cents a mg so I started shooting boy and girl every single day! I was doing 30bags a day man..... That's a huge story in itself but I got clean for a month and moved back to moms house and I came accross a bottle of ole realible hydros! I ate 8 of the 5s 40mgs total and I was totally destroyed! I also have 700mgs of lyrica digesting as we speak witch is amazing to mix with hydro but for real dude I was filling up needles with dirty puddle water to inject into my veins and I'm not even dumb enough to fuck with benzos and opiates together! Don't do that shit together man!
 
Elm73 said:
I really enjoy people's feed back on hydro threads! Most people will say "that's pussy shit eat 20 morphine pills and drink some vodka bro!" no....
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Hey Elm73, I am glad that you have made this observation as this is the true purpose of Blue. I was drawn to Blue for just this reason. The purpose of Blue is to spread the word of harm reduction. I mean you can't stop people from doing what they want do and we have all run into extremely bad situations when doing our DOC, but we can share our stories and experiences in the hopes that other people can learn from our mistakes and do not have to experience the same. I would rather share what I have learned then see someone else suffer from similar mistakes. For me it is a way for me to give back and believe it or not, it helps me to stay sober to day by reminding me of some of the miseries that I have encountered. It feels good to know that this is being noticed by those reading the comments here as well as contributing. Also, noone should judge anyone else's use as everyone has their own limits and and their own drug, by telling someone they are a puss and to take more is just plain selfish and has no business here. Enjoy! :)
 
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