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Vivid nightmares. Etizolam?

As you may well know, most if not all Benzos supress the REM stage of sleep, so perhaps it was the dreaming equivalent to what rebound Anxiety is? Pure speculation.
I know that a great deal of dream interpretation is utter bollocks, but there's some parts of it that make a great deal of sense. If you can remember your nightmares you should see if any of the content reflects to aspects of your life.
 
Occassionally I use Etiz to ease comedowns but I havent noticed any change in my sleep patterns unless I've knocked the weed off... I havent taken any genuine MDMA for over a year. My sleep is normally herb-induced & dreamless but when I DO dream it's pretty vivid & in that "serial" way, waking & then returning to a dream that continues where it left off. If & when I do have nightmares & do remember them, they usually have something to do with my everyday life...

... just my pennies worth! My gf has had major dream activity but her herb use is up & down (unlike mine which is solid, constant Lol) so I expect her to have more action. She thinks that recent testing of O Desmethyltramadol DID cause some intense nightmares that night.
 
Yeah what you are describing is pretty common for people a couple days after abusing (or using) drugs like MDMA / Mephedrone.. horrible.. HORRIBLE dreams..
 
monstanoodle said:
As you may well know, most if not all Benzos supress the REM stage of sleep, so perhaps it was the dreaming equivalent to what rebound Anxiety is? Pure speculation.
I know that a great deal of dream interpretation is utter bollocks, but there's some parts of it that make a great deal of sense. If you can remember your nightmares you should see if any of the content reflects to aspects of your life.
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Drug abuse caused me to become severely paranoid.. most of the time it was about my friends not liking me and plotting to harm me in some way.. every night i'd dream they were attacking me, laughing at me, ignoring me, etc etc.. They'd never tell me why though :( These dreams got super intense after a meph sesh.. also.. my family noticed i would toss and turn and shout out in my sleep.. 1 night i shouted fuck off! It was because a close friend of mine had just punched me in the back of the head (in my dream..)

By the way by drug abuse i mean pretty heavy abuse of amphetamine, MDMA and mephedrone (and of course not sleeping or eating for days at a time every week :/)
 
Yikes mate :\ That sounds harsh.
Yea when I stopped smoking Weed obviously all of my dreams came back and, because of the paranoia that I gained from Weed, some of those dreams were very fucked up and nasty :|

I'm very glad to hear that you've managed to leave the stimulant abuse behind man :)
 
I also congratulate you on quitting your stim binges, they always lead to nasty places!

Since stopping heroin 16months ago I have fucked up dreams practically every time in manage to sleep, usually about scoring and getting caught or cooking up a shot of fire gear and not being able to find a vein! It really leaves me in a bad mood for the next day, i mean I've quit the drug but when will addiction stop haunting me! I also suffer from sleep paralysis about once a week, fucking annoying!
 
i didn´t have etizolam yet. but i experienced horrific nightmares from benzowithdrawals. with me taking the feel of the nightmare through the hole day. i have the memory, like it really had happened, after those nightmares.
that´s so annoying...usualy u should be pleased if you can take a nap on benzo withdrawal...but i didnt even want to sleep because of those nightmares.

sometimes those nightmares are a fucked up mix of reality and dream and paralysis.

however i have most of the times negative touched dreams or nightmares but on withdrawals they go skyrocket.

my gaba system is so f**ed up that i get that even after one day of gbl
 
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Yes actually, I've noticed an increase in my dreaming since I started my Diazepam and Temazepam / Nitrazepam taper. And the idea about the sudden lack of GABA effecting you when asleep makes a lot of sense. You're not as neurochemically dulled as you would be usually.
 
It's not often I get nightmares either, usually takes a heavy battering of stimulants to bring it on or else something very unpleasant has to have happened.

That said I've been having terrible nightmares ever since sunday night. I'd been doing xanax from thurs-sat, not masses of the stuff but hardly shy dosing either. 12mgs over the 3 days (6 x 2mg bars).

Ever since I've not slept properly at all. Been tossing and turning all night, getting 4 hours sleep max and having the same horrible dream but when I woke up I could hardly remember it. Last night though it was much more vivid. It was the whole same scenario as my mate dying (I had been reliving this a bit before a couple of weeks back), only a completely different set and setting. It was in some bonkers farm house, with people I haven't even associated with in years and a couple of my close friends, then all I know is something wrong happens I go outside and my mate is dead another shot goes off and I wake up.

It's very hard to explain, that really doesn't cover it it's much much more vivid.

I would be intrested to hear if anyone who has a heavy daily benzo habbit then stops gets this? Or is the taper going to stop them suffering?
 
toxicology-wise, am I best using Etizolam, or Zopiclone as a sleep aid?

and as a sleep aid, I mean as a method of reducing amphetamine induced, racing thought processes [which I can't switch off], in order for sleep to occur.

Zopiclone, which I occasionally use, and is effective for me if taken in v controlled, regimented circumstances, has some v unfavourable & negative baggage associations with long term use, according to my research notes

[edit] useful for consideration: it's to be utilized 3 times a week max, often interspersed with weeks of no use. Haven't yet used Etiz, but have Zop
 
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I had very vivid dreams whilst on etizolam... no other drugs, a couple of drinks and 1mg of etizolam has on several occasions given me quite potent, weird dreams. Not what I would call nightmares, but my dreams are fairly full on all the time.

I seem to to be a bit odd though in that smoking weed doesn't really seem to stop me dreaming. In fact I've had plenty of very vivid dreams after smoking.
 
Marmalade said:
toxicology-wise, am I best using Etizolam, or Zopiclone as a sleep aid?

and as a sleep aid, I mean as a method of reducing amphetamine induced, racing thought processes [which I can't switch off], in order for sleep to occur.

Zopiclone, which I occasionally use, and is effective for me if taken in v controlled, regimented circumstances, has some v unfavourable & negative baggage associations with long term use, according to my research notes

[edit] useful for consideration: it's to be utilized 3 times a week max, often interspersed with weeks of no use. Haven't yet used Etiz, but have Zop
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Toxicology-wise, you'd be best off reducing your amphetamine intake if I were you... what are your concerns with zopiclone?
 
What the hell.. when i posted "Thanks monsta" it was the next post after his.. Now it's not :/

But thanks guys :) And congrats on quitting heroin.. havn't been thru that 1 myself.. Am no doubt gonna be in GBL +/ phenibut withdrawals in the next week (thru choice.. not end of stash ;))

On that note.. last night.. a few hours after my last 2ml dose (and over 24hours since my last phenibut dose) I dreamt that i walked into my kitchen and suddenly started losing consciousness.. i tried to call out to my girlfriend but couldn't even open my mouth.. i tried to walk back to the bedroom but felt too heavy and slumped down onto the floor as my vision faded into nothing and i stopped breathing.. Sleep paralysis.. or some form.. Which i kinda like.. vivid dreams no matter how scary normally leave me waking interested.. after the initial feeling of terror subsides :)
 
I had a dream a giant crow was after me. Then I was in and out of being asleep and awake. Possible sleep paralysis? Scary shit.

Dream dictionary:

Crow

To see a crow in your dream represents death and the darker aspects of your character. The dream could also be pointing out your annoying habits. Alternatively, the crow may be conveying a message from your unconscious.
 
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I didn't get nightmares, but I did get the dodgy dreams that I get from when I do Valium; the ones where you dream waking up and going about your day for about 30 minutes, then waking up back in your bed. The last one I had was where I got out of bed, got my phone and put it on charge, brushed my teeth, fell over onto my bed and started crawling up it, then instantly woke up, clutching my duvet, underneath it still nekkedm with my phone still hanging out of my jeans pocket on the floor. What the fuck.
 
Just posted on another thread, but I just had my first experience with Etizolam last night. Definitely pronounced nightmares and repeated waking. So much so that I woke up 3 hours early just so I didn't have to go back to nightmare-land. I did dose quite late in the evening, so that might have something to do with it.
 
Green tea apparently does good things for GABA receptors. It might be an idea to have a couple of cups before you go to bed SHM. It tastes revolting but worth a try.

Green tea is the Japanese national drink actually and if you think about it they always seem pretty chilled out. :)


Ed: ( a Hail Mary or two wouldnt go a miss either as it happens ;) )
 
The Japanese are seriously uptight, just look at their suicide rate;-

Suicide_in_Japan

I quite like green tea as it goes, I find it subtly relaxing and it gives a feeling of cleansing which may be placebo but I'll take what ever I can:)
 
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