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I abused 6-APB quite heavily. Very worried about the damage I have done, please read.

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I am the worst person in the world and have abused this RC. I know that I am incredibly stupid and pathetic, but please, try to guide me in the right direction. I did 2 grams of 6-APB powder from a very reputable vendor in the span of around twenty days, never more than 200-250mg a day and never more than 150mg a dose. I dissolved the powder in water.
I stopped doing it and haven't done it for about five days now. Since I stopped I have obviously felt ill, but I like to think that I'm feeling a little better today. I have had symptoms of serotonin syndrome such as vomiting, nausea, dizzyness, no energy etc. I have been eating healthy since I stopped.

Should I see a doctor? My symptoms aren't THAT bad as it is, I'm just worried they might get worse, since I've read that serotonin syndrome could be lethal if left untreated. I've gotten gradually better, but I still don't seem 'normal' at all. I have less energy really and tend to shake a bit after doing something mild physical work. I don't feel cold or particularly hot.
I have not been able to find out whether or not serotonin syndrome can still be present even days or weeks after taking the drug, which is why I am still very scared and hence why I'm writing this. Could it be benine results of quitting the drug after such a long binge, or something different?

I feel like I have done something very horrible and I am totally in the dark! please help

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Not sure if there are other sites where they might be able to help also, feel free to redirect me if this isn't the right place to ask for help regarding such things!
I also posted this in 'Other Drugs'. Sorry for being this desperate.
 
Glad you've posted. I'm not really qualified to make any comment but doing this substance every couple of months (at the 100 - 200mg range) totally kicks my ass.

First, take a very, very, very long break. We're talking months and months and months. Second, wait for a more detailed response on serotonin syndrome. It sounds to me that you have it. Third, diet and exercise can help get you back on track. Not rocket science, good healthy food. Vegetables, fruit, salads, lean meats. Combine this with gentle exercise when you're passed the worst of it. Other than that, you'll have to wait for someone more experienced to help.

On a final point, and I'm sorry for doing this, treat this stuff with respect. Your actions could result in this substance being forced underground. You'll take it away from this whole community. Anyway, just go easy. Hope you feel better soon. You will.
 
Thank you for your reply! I will wait patiently for replies on serotonin syndrome. Do you feel I should try and do some exercise even now when I feel like I lack energy? Is there a chance it might be counter-productive?
I will of course stay away from 6-APB and other drugs, most likely forever. I'll eat as healthy as I can. Thanks again for your reply, I'm glad I am being heard.
 
Serotonin syndrome is an acute and very nasty response caused by a MASSIVE excess of serotonin in your synapses, it is not often triggered by one drug. MDMA, or the APB's alone won't/shouldn't cause serotonin syndrome unless you are on DXM, a SSRI, or MAOI. And if you were experiencing serotonin syndrome, you'd damn well know it...

You most likely are just burnt out from doing a powerful stimulant. If you did a whole bunch of MDMA within 20 days you would feel pretty shitty too.

Just eat lots of protien, lay off the MDxx drugs, and get plenty of rest. You'll feel better soon.
 
Second about the serotonin syndrome. After five days if you had a really severe serotonin syndrome you'd be dead, and if it were a mild one it'd be gone probably. Serotonin syndrome is very rarely lethal, and from my understanding only when an MAOI is involved, cause if no MAOIs are involved the excess serotonin is broken down by the MAO system.

I don't wanna go as far as to say that it's a urban legend, if you experience worrying heart rate, fever, etc you should seek medical attention, but of all the people who show up saying they got serotonin syndrome I think maybe 1% actually has it, and the other are experiencing anything from panic attack to other exotic RCs side effects.

So relax, you are fine, just burned out but you'll be ok. Sleep, eat healthy, plenty of protein, be patient. It's the usual mantra.
 
Thanks guys, this makes me feel a whole lot better. I am forever grateful. I have never used MAOI's or SSRI's.
Could any specific vitamins or minerals be helpful in addition to eating healthy? If so, what could potentially help? Any I should avoid maybe?
I will update on how I feel tommorow after having rested. Thanks again so much, it really means a lot.
 
Just stay clean and you should be fine. The body and brain have a powerful ability to heal if you let and help them heal as you were advised above. I'd add this, consider something spiritual.

Not religion. Religion is shit. Religion is for people who don't wanna go to hell. Spirituality is for people who have been there.
You've been there. Find some magic in the world, real magic, like nature, beauty, a symphony, a tree, anything.

Let us know how you get on.
 
Oh, and you are NOT a bad, terrible, pathetic person. Knock off the negative thoughts and stinkin'-thinkin'.

You are lovable and you are loved.
You have inherent worth as a human.
You have the capacity of the infinite within you.
Find it, follow it, love yourself.

Be KIND to yourself!
 
podsnomo said:
Oh, and you are NOT a bad, terrible, pathetic person. Knock off the negative thoughts and stinkin'-thinkin'.

You are lovable and you are loved.
You have inherent worth as a human.
You have the capacity of the infinite within you.
Find it, follow it, love yourself.

Be KIND to yourself!
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Very kind words, thank you my friend. I will go to bed with an open and at ease mind tonight, all because of you guys. Love you all.
 
Fruit, some multi vitamins and lots of fresh air and sunlight are the best cure for stim binge recovery, when you feel a bit better some exercise won't hurt either, nothing too exhausting, a brisk walk round the park or a little jog if you're normally an active person. Fresh air, light, friends and a change of scenery are the main things that'll help.

Not a massive binge but these sort of drugs need a couple of weeks in between sessions to recover, think of it like MDMA. Really not something to be doing often.
 
hx_ said:
Fruit, some multi vitamins and lots of fresh air and sunlight are the best cure for stim binge recovery, when you feel a bit better some exercise won't hurt either, nothing too exhausting, a brisk walk round the park or a little jog if you're normally an active person. Fresh air, light, friends and a change of scenery are the main things that'll help.

Not a massive binge but these sort of drugs need a couple of weeks in between sessions to recover, think of it like MDMA. Really not something to be doing often.
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IMHO, really not something to be doing at all. :)
So, how are you man?
Let us know or you'll give us all a terrible fright!

Peace,
pnm
 
I got up this morning feeling okay. I've been outside a bit, bought some carrots and ate a salad. I find that carrots are great for my energy and mood. :) Weed also helps if I go easy on it.
I have a close friend at my house over with his PC, having company is great. So far I have been feeling a little bit better after each day, so I hope that continues.

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I regret so much that I've been so stupid with this RC. It's a truly great chemical if treated with respect. Before even ordering the stuff I knew that it was MDMA-like in terms of how often you can dose. I never planned to use any more often than once a month. I became careless after my few initial doses, why I have no idea. I was a bit careless with MXE too back when it was legal, so I feel my willpower against addiction might be much worse than I thought.
 
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As a person who endured serotonin syndrome:

are you extremely warm (hot) ? are you suffering major tremors? if not, it's probably not serotonin syndrome. for me, it lasted about a week - you can't really treat SS, just stay cool (literally, temperature is the enemy here) and hydrated - ride it out. don't exert yourself too much, try not to go out alone if you're worried. you'll be fine, just stay clean and healthy - let your body recover.
 
From personal experience...

I used to take 10 pills of ecstasy in 2 days. My friends and I would snort MDMA for days on end. for the year after I moved away and stopped, I had horrible HPPD, delusions, depression, and anxiety. It's been about a year and a half since.. and I feel completely fine.

Yes, you fucked yourself up with drugs, but you will recover. Give it time, you won't be like this forever. You just gotta be strong and stick it out, as hard as it may be, it will end.
 
First of all, if you worry that you may have damaged yourself, you will feel shit.
I remember back when I was 13, after the first time I railed Ritalin, I was convinced for months that it did some sort of long term damage, when really no such possibility existed

Serotonin Syndrome is an acute condition, it is a form of drug overdose, and is not gradual. There is absolutely no chance you have serotonin syndrome

Your feeling of "something not being right" sounds more of an anxious psychological feeling than actual damage.

You are right to be concerned about potential damage from drug use. But, instead on focusing on whether you have damage and specifically treating that damage, you need to instead focus on living a healthy lifestyle.

Ensure you have a balanced diet, and exercise regularly, get a decent amount of sleep, and massively cut back on drug use. Weed is ok if you don't over do it, but certainly lay off amphetamines of any kind for a long while

In terms of supplements, I would start with a multivitamin and some 5-HTP, and then after a month or so, if you're still concerned about cognitive lapses, perhaps maybe some Piracetam

I wish you the best
 
Hi, thought I'd register to offer my unqualified opinion.

As others have said, you are not suffering from serotonin syndrome. I believe you have a form of discontinuation syndrome resulting from your brain having adjusted to the near constant presence of 6-APB in your system, and the effect the chemical will have had on your serotonin levels. Give it a few days, stick with the healthy food (especially those rich in vitamin c and fish oils), and your brain will regain equilibrium and you'll be back to normal.

There's no need to be dramatic and call yourself names, you just got a bit carried away and are paying the price. We've all been there; I imagine most of us have been a lot further.
 
g0to said:
You'll be alright, you've just drained your body for a while. Give yourself a few days, a week... I've been on MDxx/5apb/6apb/4fa binges where I thought my mind would not recover but it tends to bounce back quick! No need to berate yourself or whatever, you did it cause you had some free vacation time or something and wanted to have some fun. Just next time spread out the fun
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Or find fun without chemicals maybe. It is possible!

:-)
 
Hi, I used 100Mg of 6apb last Saturday,.first time user and I have bad stomach cramps today and yesterday, I had some mdma crystal at Christmas that did the same thing and put me off it for good. I prolly overdid it on ecstasy 15 years ago without really suffering from cramps. Any idea what causes this and is any measure to prevent it other that abstinence, thanks.
 
Pretty sure this happens to everyone when they go over board on compounds that act on the brain in a similar manner to MDA/MDMA. It's not serotonin syndrome, the opposite matter a fact. You got none left lol Just give it a couple weeks and you'll feel better. When I went on a particular nasty yet so good MDMA bender for a month of so it took me 2 weeks after I stopped taking it before I felt normal. Just mark it as a lesson learned (most have been where you are and learned the same way), you'll be back in no time. You got to give yourself time to recuperate. I'd recommend 3mths between doses, same with MDMA.
 
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