British Man, 21, Faces Death Sentence In United Arab Emirates

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

That really doesn't deserve a response, if you really think that then that's fine we all have a right to believe what we want to believe.

It's a new one on me though, I've never met a Christian before who would claim to be able to distil their beliefs in 15 meaningless words, the bible teaches much more than that, as you well know.

It's you that seems to sit in judgement of people, again not something supported by the Bible and your vehement hostility and hatred that permeates so many of your posts is totally out of kilter with the values of justice and peace clearly promoted in the Christian doctrine.

You can post what you like, it doesn't change a thing.


If the truth can be told so as to be understood it will be believed

It can be a new one to you all you like, ask your Christian friends what is required to attain salvation and they will say exactly the same thing. That is what is required to be a Christian. All the other things are things you should be trying to do, but there are many different ways of achieving the same aims. For instance is loving your neighbour allowing them to sail through life being as duplicitous as marmalade? Or would it be beneficial for her to be shaken by the ankles so that she can be who she wants to be? I fully admit that I have a strong strong dislike of this little clique, which I should probably try to work harder on to be truly repentent, but to me Christianity isn't about being a doormat and allowing people to treat you like shit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Grace_theology

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

no it hasn't. I've made a big effort with you, which you admitted yourself had resulted in a change in how we got along.

I don't see a similar effort. I only see you confessing to lying and bullshitting and as such your opinion cannot be taken seriously.

How can it?

Did you really just put up a percentage for your bullshit rate? *shakes head*

It's fine to do that when it's not in the middle of a discussion about something of a fairly serious nature, but to use that in the middle of a debate, it's just a get out clause on your part, to ensure you're always on top in some way in your eyes.

You're an unhappy, under stimulated person by your own admission. it's a pity you like to exercise your boredom in such a crass, self-aggrandising way

When have I ever said that i'm unhappy? I haven't. Once again you are saying things about me you know absolutely nothing about... Your big effort was not chiming in with pointless airy fairy bullshit which has nothing to do with what we're talking about. I didn't say it was bullshit. If I believe that taxs should be low, then I will just say that they should be extremely low. I have made an effort to understand you, and all I understand is that you have a very high opinion of yourself as a liberal tolerant person who just seeks knowledge, but that it is way way off. I'm pretty sure your big effort not to team up with your pals at every possible opportunity wasn't anything to do with being a genuine effort, but rather something you had to do to convince yourself you are who you think you are.

 

[Marmalade]

'the clique' is just something you default to just to justify why so many people disagree with you, instead of just trying to look at yourself more objectively.

Is atm part of the clique? or is anyone that doesn't throw you a bone when you need it?

it's rationalisation at its very worst. and nothing to do with truth. it's everything to do with needing to come to terms with something you're reluctant to come to terms with the reality of

 

[Marmalade]

When have I ever said that i'm unhappy? I haven't. Once again you are saying things about me you know absolutely nothing about... Your big effort was not chiming in with pointless airy fairy bullshit which has nothing to do with what we're talking about. I didn't say it was bullshit. If I believe that taxs should be low, then I will just say that they should be extremely low. I have made an effort to understand you, and all I understand is that you have a very high opinion of yourself as a liberal tolerant person who just seeks knowledge, but that it is way way off. I'm pretty sure your big effort not to team up with your pals at every possible opportunity wasn't anything to do with being a genuine effort, but rather something you had to do to convince yourself you are who you think you are.

you can't expect people to have to sieve through your opinion to be able to reply seriously when you admit it's mostly axaggerated (or 20/80) .. it's hard enough identifying as is, without your complex headfucks trying to confuse matters more

have some integrity and respect for the subject matter. or why engage in the subject in the first place?

once again, you can't have it both ways. it nullifies any genuine opinion you may have. you're a fake, bullshit artist compensating for god knows what.

you aren't genuine. what you present and argue is not true by your own admission. it's truly sad

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Yeah change the topic, pick a small part of anything i've said, classic little tactic of yours. The clique is you, Sam, SHM, MM, and within reason B&W. atm isn't part of the clique because he isn't exclusionary. PTCH isn't part of the clique because he isn't veheremently attached to the beliefs that bind your clique together. I use the existence of the clique to explain why, whenever I say anything, the same 5 people run in and team up. You never disagree among yourselves, it's just an attempt to try and make me leave so you can restore your bubble and stop your views being challenged. I am far from the only person who sees you doing this. The thing that binds your clique is that you are all feelers, your viewpoints and beliefs are in no way based on anything even closely resembling facts. You might bring up the odd fact when it corroborates what you feel, but you always do it ass backwards. You don't look at the facts and then come to your conclusion. You could sit there all day looking at figures that disagree with you and still think you're right. Black is white, right is left, and up is down.

 

[Marmalade]

is that a serious post or a 20% one?

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

you can't expect people to have to sieve through your opinion to be able to reply seriously when you admit it's mostly axaggerated (or 20/80) .. it's hard enough identifying as is, without your complex headfucks trying to confuse matters more

have some integrity and respect for the subject matter. or why engage in the subject in the first place?

once again, you can't have it both ways. it nullifies any genuine opinion you may have. you're a fake, bullshit artist compensating for god knows what.

you aren't genuine. what you present and argue is not true by your own admission. it's truly sad

You are just mirroring back what i'm saying to you to defend your ego. Please just sort through your own personal issues, which are easy for me to point out to you, rather than trying to vaguely allude to me having problems which *must* explain why I don't come to the same conclusions about the world around us. You wouldn't accept the 80% that I do believe, you never have. That's why I tacked on the 20%. In case you hadn't noticed you are so far beyond the point at which I could ever respect or like you, only a time machine could change this. 99% of everything you have ever written on here is bullshit, you just defend it to the death so you can tell yourself you are who you think you are.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

is that a serious post or a 20% one?

Well we aren't talking about a social or economic issue. It is 100% truth. In case you are genuinely interested in self help and improving yourself, here is the definition of clique:

clique

noun /klēk/  /klik/ 
cliques, plural

A small group of people, with shared interests or other features in common, who spend time together and do not readily allow others to join them

Now tell me you aren't a clique. The trouble is you all think you're right because the 5 of you are more vocal than the rest of the forum put together. But there are quite a few people who agree with me on your behaviour, but they cba with your cliques bullshit. That, or you've already bullied them off the forum.

 

[Marmalade]

before cliques and opinions, there's motivations or at least establishing whether to engage, and the main factor in that is if someone is joking or if someone is not. If this is all about piss taking and exaggerated nonsense, I get nothing out of it and it doesn't interest me even remotely

So going forward, how am I to establish whether you're bullshitting or whether you aren't?*

Are you going to declare in advance whether you're telling the truth and not bullshitting, or just agree to not exaggerate or bullshit (re: serious issues) completely?

And with that in mind, I'll tell you where I'm at with this. If you decide to engage with some integrity, and take accountability for your own opinions by speaking/arguing/debating the truth, then I'll engage. If not, then I'm not interested, and have zero faith in your honesty. I can't possibly be expected to take you seriously until you agree to stop randomly arguing bullshit. Find some other person to do that with, because that isn't me. I get zero out of it and it's not what I'm about

Which is it to be?


* and this is not about random thread tomfoolery, which is seperate, and something your hero PTCH manages to do successfully, btw

 

[botfly]

No i'm not i'm talking about vast majority. I am well aware that almost every viewpoint will have a vague and quiet dissenter who isn't a regular poster. Botfly comes to mind. And occasionally even a regular poster might have a slightly differing viewpoint. You can go to bed if you like, i'm not stopping you. If you want to prove me wrong please tell me which social or economic issue you, B&W, Sam, Marmz, MM, SHM etc. etc. disagree fervently with each other on.

I agree mate for saying drugs are supposed to open your mind there are some intolerant fuckwits on this forum. Cultural marxist brainwashing comes to mind. Illiberal liberalism. I got tastelessly attacked for my support of UKIP, distrust of the EU and questioing whether climate change will destroy the world next year instead sucking off the green party or lib dems like most here do. Screams of fascist racist and all of that tripe.

I like killing animals for fun and for food, Sam would never do either.

And i like bullfighting (though I have a problem with the morality of it now I no longer live in Madrid)

EDIT>>>sorry its just social issues there, I not too hot on the economy and shiz, us 5 figure salarymen are bit too thick for that sort of thing.

Botfly comes to mind

lulzzzzz

Why are you lulzing at me? I can be a pretty comical guy when I put my mind to it i suppose. Do you really enjoy killing animals?

 

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[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Marmalade, you have never actually engaged with a serious issue. Stop pretending that it matters what i'm saying, because all you ever do is go into vague unsubstantiated shit about motivations. You have no idea of your own motivations, let alone mine. You just chose your motivations from how you think you should be, and then went from there to protect that image of yourself in your head. It isn't actually who you are. For instance claiming that you weren't trying to hurt feelings, which as I said was a total lie. It doesn't need to have been done intentionally to have been a lie, in fact it is all the more interesting if it was subconscious. I don't take you seriously, and haven't for perhaps almost a year now? You just rapidly regress into this meanginless rubbish time and again. Do I really need to say it again? You aren't who you think you are. Your perceived motivations are a mile of what they actually are.

I have no interest in changing myself in any way for you because you will never be happy, and you are totally incapable of seeing that I would have to go very far into not being true to myself to make you accept me. That's just the way it is with intolerant people like you. So I might as well state my point, then tack on a little extra and go a little further to piss you off, because I am wasting my breath either way. I might as well prove you are total pricks while I am at it.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

I agree mate for saying drugs are supposed to open your mind there are some intolerant fuckwits on this forum. Cultural marxist brainwashing comes to mind. Illiberal liberalism. I got tastelessly attacked for my support of UKIP, distrust of the EU and questioing whether climate change will destroy the world next year instead sucking off the green party or lib dems like most here do. Screams of fascist racist and all of that tripe.


Why are you lulzing at me? I can be a pretty comical guy when I put my mind to it i suppose. Do you really enjoy killing animals?

Thank you Botfly. I am glad i'm not the only person that sees it. Maybe if they stopped using each other's tongues as toilet paper they would gain a mind of their own and actually disagree with each other on something. We live in hope huh? There are some serious mental deficiencies in this group, they are oversocialised and altogether inferior to the point that they hate anything they see as superior.

loool.

 

[botfly]

How did this arguement start again? Can't be arsed to read through the thread. Off topic to fuck.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

How did this arguement start again? Can't be arsed to read through the thread. Off topic to fuck.

I can't remember, it was obviously me who started it by expressing an opinion that wasn't held by the clique, but I think this is the 2nd or 3rd lot of arguing now? To be fair though this topic had extremely limited legs as it was. We were all going to come in and say "yeah, disgusting" etc. Maybe one person would say "what an idiot, that's stupid, deserves what he gets" then it's done. It was an altogether pointless thing to create a thread on, and should have just been put in the generic news thread.

 

[watsons torment]

botfly and MSB both joined in oct 2009... ALT ACCOUNT!

 

[Marmalade]

Marmalade, you have never actually engaged with a serious issue. Stop pretending that it matters what i'm saying, because all you ever do is go into vague unsubstantiated shit about motivations. You have no idea of your own motivations, let alone mine. You just chose your motivations from how you think you should be, and then went from there to protect that image of yourself in your head. It isn't actually who you are. For instance claiming that you weren't trying to hurt feelings, which as I said was a total lie. It doesn't need to have been done intentionally to have been a lie, in fact it is all the more interesting if it was subconscious. I don't take you seriously, and haven't for perhaps almost a year now? You just rapidly regress into this meanginless rubbish time and again. Do I really need to say it again? You aren't who you think you are. Your perceived motivations are a mile of what they actually are.

I have no interest in changing myself in any way for you because you will never be happy, and you are totally incapable of seeing that I would have to go very far into not being true to myself to make you accept me. That's just the way it is with intolerant people like you. So I might as well state my point, then tack on a little extra and go a little further to piss you off, because I am wasting my breath either way. I might as well prove you are total pricks while I am at it.

summary: you're going to continue to argue exaggerated, disengenuous bullshit and lie as and when you please

no problem

just don't expect to be taken seriously.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

botfly and MSB both joined in oct 2009... ALT ACCOUNT!

You just made me realise i'm schizophrenic. Thanks

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

summary: you're going to continue to argue exaggerated, disengenuous bullshit as and when you please

no problem

just don't expect to be taken seriously.

Haha, that isn't a summary at all. Summary: It doesn't matter if I do or I don't, you are an intolerant miserable over the hill bitch, who thinks the sun shines out of her arse, so I am not going to waste my time making a serious post aimed towards a person I can't take seriously. Just limit yourself to reading your Guardian you oversocialised inferior mess. The funny thing is, I know that i'm being horrible. I don't need to dress it up as trying to understand motivations to protect a view of myself that I am the reincarnation of a saint. I know saying this doesn't make you think about yourself in the reflective way you think you are, it just makes you more adament you are right. There is no way to crack through the bullshit, you've had a good 20 years of layering it on before I was even born after all.

 

[Marmalade]

It does matter, when discussing real subjects when genuinely wanting to learn new things or understand someone's point of view.

if you can't understand why that's important, then maybe you are a sociopath.

[edit] I have zero problem with being classed as being intollerant of bullshit in this matter. zero