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Harm Reduction Cotton filter choices

I should rename this thread to-

Please tell me the safest way to inject and i will find a reason for it being too much hastle and continue to do it my way anyway -___-

That's unfortunately, usually how all these threads turn out -_____-

"Please type me up a safe way to do drugs so I can ignore your wasted time and effort"

But hey, at least you'll know what you should be doing, and hopefully eventually change for the better before you suffer major harm.

It's really not that hard to do the compacted cotton thing, or to micron, but at the very least it's important to have good, sterile, yet basic filtration knowledge and technique, AKA with a fresh cotton, a new rig, a clean mixer, and isopropyl swabs.
 
it's ok if you don't believe me that they use cotton and fiberglass in cig filters but your just putting your self at risk
I'm not putting myself at any risk because I don't currently inject drugs, but even if I did cigarette filters simply don't contain any fiberglass. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cigarette_filter

That's unfortunately, usually how all these threads turn out -_____-

"Please type me up a safe way to do drugs so I can ignore your wasted time and effort"

But hey, at least you'll know what you should be doing, and hopefully eventually change for the better before you suffer major harm.

It's really not that hard to do the compacted cotton thing, or to micron, but at the very least it's important to have good, sterile, yet basic filtration knowledge and technique, AKA with a fresh cotton, a new rig, a clean mixer, and isopropyl swabs.

Even if people don't care about their health, they might care about the fact that they will likely destroy their veins and not have any left to inject drug into if they don't use fresh syringes every time, micron filters, sterile water, proper injection technique, vein rotation, etc. So even if a person only cares about using drugs it is still totally worth it to use proper equipment and technique.
 
Purchase pharmaceutical heroin from one of the many countries where is legal would be your safest route. Smoking street heroin has nearly the same bio availability without the infections and related risks of i.v. use. The diacetylcodeine found in most street heroin is more toxic than the heroin itself.
 
@SD, I wasn't disputing that, that's kinda what I was getting at.

I know, I was agreeing with your post :) and also adding a reason for people to use HR techniques when injecting even if they don't currently care about their health.

Wtf like where? I want to know what country you can buy dilaudid or heroin or thr old school opanas over the counter haha

Are you saying such a place exists?

What? No one said they were available over the counter.
 
So i already know that micron filters are the most effectuve/safest way to IV drugs but that's not an option at this very moment

So im wondering of these 3. Choices which would work the best

1) q-tip
2) cotton ball
3) cigarette filter

Ive been using a q-tip ever since i started exceot for a few times when i suses the cotton from a cig filter cuz it was the only thing available at the time

Im surprised cig filters are normally portrayed as the worst filter out there on this site. I mean if you sat there and tore it with your hands i see how all the cotton hanging off could be risky that itd draw up and the solution could give you cotton fever :;thumbs up::


But if you cut the filter with scissors just enough to have a perfectly cylinder shaped piece of cotton it seems with how sturdh it is and hiw cottons not peeling off itd make a better filters then a q tip

I found this study which performed experiments with four types of filters, and compared the results.

Method: Permission was sought and granted from the Crown Office through the Procurator Fiscal for Grampian Region, to obtain street heroin for the purpose of this research project. Samples of street heroin from closed cases were supplied from Grampian Police after inspection of the premises and approval of the project by the Home Office. Semi structured interviews were carried out with 20 current or ex injecting drug users, to establish the methods they used to prepare their injections. Harm reduction leaflets were consulted to ensure that the preparation technique used followed the best practice advice given ( Exeter Drugs Project, 2nd Ed; HIT, 1995). From this, the laboratory method was established.

250mg of street heroin was weighed accurately. This quantity was chosen because most drug users reported injecting a 'quarter gram bag' or preparing a 'quarter gram hit' and sharing it with a partner. Citric acid was stated as the preferred additive and the quantity used described as a 'small pinch'. Ten 'small pinches' of citric acid were weighed and the average weight taken (14mg). Therefore 14mg of citric acid BP. was weighed accurately and added to the heroin. This was then transferred onto a clean metal tea spoon and 0.8ml water freshly boiled and cooled from the kettle was added. This quantity was used because 80 units (the measure on an insulin syringe equivalent to 0.8ml) was the quantity most commonly reported as used. This was then stirred with the sheathed end of an insulin syringe and heated over a flame. The point where the solid mass appeared to sink to the bottom of the spoon and the top liquid appeared clear and began to bubble was taken to be the end point of heating, as described during the interviews.

The three make shift filters were investigated: (1) A quarter of a cigarette filter, prepared by removing the outer paper, tearing in half then cutting in half again. This was stated to be the most popular filter used by those interviewed. (2) A hand rolling filter (Rizla 7mm acetate filter), no preparation necessary. This type of filter is distributed by some needle exchanges in the UK. (3) A tip from a cotton bud, removed by pulling gently with the fingers and rolling the end fibres into a thread (perceived to reduce fibre shedding). This was stated to be used by some of those interviewed, if no cigarette filter was available. The commercial syringe filter investigated was the 5 micron Acrodisk, made by Gelman Sciences. This filter is specifically designed for use by medical and scientific staff to remove particles from injections. The particles were detected using the Coulter MultisizerÒ. The size range of particles selected for analysis was between 2 to 60 microns, to ensure those of interest were detecteda. Controls were analysed using injections made with water only, both boiled and cooled from the kettle and water for injection. These were done to confirm that the heroin is the major source of particles and not the water and preparation procedure. Unfiltered and filtered injections were analysed. Each experiment was repeated three times and the average result taken. Change in concentration of diamorphine was measured using Capillary Zone Electrophoresis (Hewlett Packard), using a method developed for a separate research project (Mrs Ann Low, personal communication). The concentrations before and after filtration were compared. Each sample was assayed twice and the average result was taken. Street heroin is made up of many opiates, diamorphine usually being the principle one. Therefore it is important to note that further work is necessary to measure all opiates in the sample to gain a complete understanding of how the filtration process may affect the psychoactive effects of injections made from street heroin (source).


Percentage of particles removed by the four different filters used in this experiment

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Cigarette Filter​
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Rizla Filter​
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Cotton Bud​
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Micron Filter​
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79.4​
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90.4​
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89.4​
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95.1​
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The descriptions of these filters are in bold in the above quote. I wanted to point out that they refer to micron or 'wheel' filters as 'syringe filters.' I switched it to micron filter on the chart since we mostly refer to them as such here on bluelight. The Rizla filters are the filters you use to roll your own cigarettes (particularly in the UK), although I'm not sure if the Rizla 7mm acetate filter is the best one to use out of all the different Rizla filter sizes.

If you are not using a micron/wheel filter, then Rizla 7mm acetate filters are the second best choice. However, most people that don't use micron filters seem to use either regular cigarette filters, or cotton swabs. According to this study, cotton filters are more effective than cigarette filters, so those of you that have contemplated between the two now have your answer as to which one you should use.
 
wikipedia is a terrible source

For a list of countries utilizing pharmaceutical heroin, it's not that bad of a source.

What's so terrible about it?

^ I thought he was referring to me linking Wikipedia for him to learn that cigarette filters do not contain fiberglass.

mrflowers I don't see you posting any sources. At least Wikipedia references their sources. But if you still don't believe it, here are some other sources on what cigarette filters are made from:

HEC Montreal School
Of particular concern was the increasing awareness of a rumour that Player’s cigarettes contained fiberglass in their filters. This rumour, completely untrue, was predominant among smokers aged 19-25. Nationally, 40% of all smokers have heard that Player’s filters contain fiberglass, up from 35% in 1989. Neil Ford: "We buy our filters from the same two suppliers as every other tobacco company in Canada. In addition, the filter fibers are identical on all Canadian cigarettes. These fibers are made from 100% cellulose acetate, the same basic material found in everyday household products such as facial tissues, cotton swabs, and Q-tips."
British American Tobacco
The filter is made mainly from cellulose acetate fibres, known as tow. Cellulose acetate is derived from wood pulp. The fibres are bonded together with a hardening agent, triacetin, which helps the filter to keep its shape.
ChaCha Answers Q: Do all cigarette filters have fiber glass in them?
A:There is no fiber glass in menthol or regular cigarettes. It is nothing but a myth.
 
Awesome thanks for posting that study Tommyboy! I notice it says:
From the makeshift filters, the Rizla hand-rolling cigarette filter appears to be the most effective overall.

The Rizla [hand-rolling cigarette filter] and the cotton bud are similar in the amount of particles they remove, 90.4% and 89.4% respectively. However, the Rizla filter requires minimal handling compared to the cotton bud and is less fibrous, so less likely to shed fibres that could potentially get into injections and consequently veins. This makes it more favourable than the cotton bud.

The hand-rolling cigarette filter was found to remove more particulate matter than both the cotton bud and the cigarette filter removed from the pre-made cigarette.
 
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Awesome thanks for posting that study Tommyboy! I notice it says:


The hand-rolling cigarette filter was found to remove more particulate matter than both the cotton bud and the cigarette filter removed from the pre-made cigarette.

Haha, I was just cross-posting this in a similar thread that you started, and I quoted that same part you bolded, to answer one of your questions in the OP of that other thread.
 
Haha, I was just cross-posting this in a similar thread that you started, and I quoted that same part you bolded, to answer one of your questions in the OP of that other thread.

LOL, I was just going to that thread to copy your post from this thread to it and saw you had already posted it :)

Hopefully this ends the debate on whether cigarette filters are more likely to have fibers get into your shot and whether cigarette filters contain fiberglass :sus:
 
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