The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 4)

[omicamushroom]

Shifty 38 - Thanks for the reply. What is NOS?

V-Magic - Sometimes when I am stimulated, my mind, when focusing, can allow my body to relax. This will happen if I am tripping strongly and I got a wild body buzz going. A notable time is eating 33mg of 2cb and watching some movies with a friend. The body buzz was killer. I wanted to get up and move around, but I would realize that I should probably just watch the movie. Anytime my focus was drawn to the movie I would have a very enjoyable time. Lot of fun things happening in the movies. I laughed good and hard at some stuff, got serious at other points, and was at times even distracted by strange visual patterning in the sets of movies. Pretty wild experience. I was thinking a small dose of 6-apb would be stimulating (too a much lower degree than the 2cb body buzz / stimulation I was feeling). I was just thinking maybe I could get absorbed into a movie on this drug. Perhaps not. I wouldn't use mda or mdma to go to the movies so I suppose I shouldn't use this. I was thinking that it would just make the movie going experience a little more fun / goofy.

I do have plenty of good music at home. I've been collecting cds and tapes for years. My computer is fully stocked. I got about 10 different percussive instruments, some stringed instruments, some other random music devices. Staying at home is usually a good time. I tend to just smoke weed when I am home though. Sometimes eating chems in my house gives me too much anxiety... at least my current apartment does this too me.


Jesus Green - I like putting movies on to talk through when I am at home. They can sometimes provide points of interest for the stimulation of chemicals to flirt with.... let me rephrase that. A particular scene in a movie can be relevant to many situations around the world. Lets say a quote or a person is mentioned. This can be a great place to begin a conversation when tripped out. And when that eventually tapers down someone else sees something in the film to start talking about. Movies are packed full of some relevant history and concepts to all our minds.

I agree with watching films on the come down of various drugs. This is more notable for me with the 2c family. 2ce and 2ci moreso. Probably wouldn't be opposed to using 2cc for this.

Its hard for me to say what is exactly in the pellets. I do not know the vendor personally. I had gotten them from an acquaintance. I know other people that have done them. It seems like a lot of the people in my area have them. I think someone I knew probably got a bunch from a vendor... either that or everyone stumbled into the same vendor and decided to go for it. The former is more likely though, in my opinion. Lot of good word about them. Haven't heard anything too negative about them. I read about elsewhere that they were 50mg 6apb, but haven't actually been able to confirm it. However, I have seen multiple vendors selling pellets with the combo you stated. I'm just not sure if they are the same pellets. I suppose the only way to find out would be to order em. Alas I probably won't because at this point, I don't think I really care enough. I've already got enough goofy stuff to keep me satisfied with getting into too many new things. It is cool they came through though. They were easy to grab.

 

[The King of Beans]

the problem with kob's posts are that:

1. he's obviously not that bright for posting the same crap over and over for at least a month and a half (i'm not going to look back any further than that). one member mentions 59 posts at one point. his lack of intelligence and good judgement are only further reinforced by 2 - 5.
2. he drinks on pretty much every drug he takes. not saying combining substances is always a bad thing but always combining alcohol with potent compounds that typically provide plenty of activity on their own is pretty foolish, senseless, etc. this would obviously affect any experiences he posts about and he rarely mentions this.
3. he was eyeballing doses and probably still is. i didn't see any reference to him getting a scale since he admitted to such extremely foolish practices, again making any comments on a compounds effects utterly worthless.
4. he went through what he believes to be 3g of 4-fa in 2 weeks. really dude? maybe your constant, excessive use of 4-fa affects the effects of other compounds?
5. he even made light of going to the hospital after a bad trip or whatever. that's funny to you, huh? thanks for contributing to the negative attention drawn to this community and the inevitable banning of many good, useful compounds. i wonder if the lack of a scale had anything to do with this? my guess would be yes.

these things combined with his complete bias towards 6-apb and disregard of others opinions who disagree with him makes anything he has to say completely worthless imo.

as strict as BL typically is about all sorts of things, i'm shocked that he has been allowed to post for this long. i never post here but i felt the need to reinforce the opinions of others on this board that something should be done about this guy and his posts.

Ok Dad, thanks for your advice. I know now that alcohol is not good for you and I guess I'll stop drinking it cuz I wouldn't want to do anything bad..LOL

Seriously, scale is not the issue. I realized I don't need a scale. I can eyeball fine. 4-FA is ok in pretty much any dose I take, so it won't matter if I'm even 100 mg's off it's not a big deal. What I know is that I am taking enough each time to feel the effects. That's all that counts.

As for 6-apb I also have taken many different doses. I've had the whole range of effects. I simply didn't care for any of it except the combining weed with it. We still never got to the bottom of weather or not people have been smoking weed with their 6-apb? Who takes it alone and still has good effects? Anyone? I may try another batch in the future. I certainly would love it if it were anything at all like MDA. Hope I get a good batch this time. I heard most batches simply aren't good lately though compared to the older ones. Is this true? And are pellets better than powder now? And what is the best combo for 6-apb (besides 5-apb Ive heard enough about that) and of course you don't have to recommend it, just would like to know what you thought made 6-apb much better. So far for me, it would have to be weed or 4-FA. Both of these helped 6-apb to not be so lame. Also a roxy helped too but not as much as the other two. Just induced minor eye wiggles and put a minimum to the diarrhea.

Just got an idea then I'm out for the day-

We should take a poll to see how many percentage of people get diarrhea from 6-apb

We should also have an anonymous poll to see how many % of people actually this think substance is like rolling.

"Peace kids....and dont fry your brain cells too badly this weekend!!"
(Screams mother who just bombed some m1/4fa/4mmc combo)









eyes wobblin all out of her head and shit..


BTW...Anyone ever been bitchsmacked by their mother while she is shouting(Her eyes all wobblin outta her head) at you to give her your 6-apb?

 

[idontdothizz]

Just got an idea then I'm out for the day-

We should take a poll to see how many percentage of people get diarrhea from 6-apb

We should also have an anonymous poll to see how many % of people actually this think substance is like rolling.

"Peace kids....and dont fry your brain cells too badly this weekend!!"
(Screams mother who just bombed some m1/4fa/4mmc combo)









eyes wobblin all out of her head and shit..


BTW...Anyone ever been bitchsmacked by their mother while she is shouting(Her eyes all wobblin outta her head) at you to give her your 6-apb?

1. i do get diahrea from 6-apb. girlfriend doesnt.

2. it feels like rolling without the energy.

 

[Jinux]

1. i do get diahrea from 6-apb. girlfriend doesnt.

2. it feels like rolling without the energy.

I don't get it at all and neither does my gf.

It feels like rolling with a shit ton of energy for me

 

[d-kong]

so i may just end up getting straight molly but im going to a concert soon and thought about trying out some 6-apb...my question is this...is the 6-apb better than the benzofury (the stuff thats 60mg 6-apb and 50 mg 5apb together in one tablet)? anywho...im sort of short on time as the show is in about 3 weeks so i need to order it soon..anyone with some good input here? i've still never tried this rc so it will be new to me...is really even comparable to molly bc there will be plenty of that at the show?

 

[idontdothizz]

I don't get it at all and neither does my gf.

It feels like rolling with a shit ton of energy for me

Agreed on No. 3

well then again i get some weird shits from regular ecstasy also

and i dont get the energy i do from ecstasy like where i have this incredible urge to just run a marathon

 

[Section813]

I havnt had the chance to try this one yet.

On another note its interesting that the feeling of stimulation varies so much from person to person. I wonder if this is a result of differences in batches or individuals internal chemistry or set/setting....

 

[VisualMagic]

I prefer 6-apb to MDMA for a concert and that is just because MDMA floors me real hard and I find I forget a great deal from the concert and enjoy the extra long duration. I would suggest you go for powder over any kind of pill but that is just me. Also If I were at a concert I would do 6-apb and 5-apb together (2:1 ratio 6 to 5) as 5-apb makes you a bit more stimulated and wanting to move. That being said you might want to see how you react before you go out in public, you may not enjoy it and if you have access to tested molly I'd say stick with what you know. Just my two cents!

 

[Jesusgreen]

Okay doing a little clean up.

The King of Beans, please don't double post. Use the edit button Also this is the 6-APB topic, we won't be doing any polls about whether you should be posting or not here, this is for discussing 6-APB and that's it. Although I don't think it's deserving of its own thread since I think the outcome is rather obvious to most, the idea of a poll as to whether people feel 6-APB is a roll with similarities to MDMA/MDA is a good idea, and may help show you that the effects you're getting are atypical of 6-APB.

Bone14, please don't resort to abuse, if you don't agree with a user's posts, make a point against them without abuse, and if you feel he's done something wrong and broken the rules please use the report button and we'll deal with it.

IamMe90, I removed your last post - you didn't say or do anything wrong but the combo mentioned is off-topic so I removed it just to keep the topic on track.

Let's keep this thread on topic, this is getting as bad as the MXE thread was. If you see off-topic posts here please report them and me and the other mods will remove them as appropriate. Same for any rule-breaking here. Furthermore, let's not get to repeating ourselves over and over, please let's stick to adding new information to the thread, KOB, you've made your opinion clear about 6-APB, you don't need to restate it several times on each page as I said.

But yes, I too, as already mentioned, find 6-APB to resemble the "roll" provided by MDMA rather than acting as a pure stimulant, or a psychedelic. As for diarrhoea - I don't get any during the roll, but the day after I usually have it pretty bad.

till101, I missed your post before. No-one can tell you how neurotoxic 6-APB is or isn't, but going by the fact that most of the more well known stimulants that release both dopamine and serotonin seem to be neurotoxic at least to some extent, I think it's fair to assume 6-APB is too. Given it is an analogue of MDA I'd say until we have actual data (if we ever do) it'd be best to assume 6-APB is similarly neurotoxic to MDA, or, to be on the safe side, it might be best to just assume it's more neurotoxic and apply more caution to it than its more well researched brother MDA.

We often advise a "one month rule" for MDMA, spacing rolls at least a month apart and ideally longer, and I'd recommend at the very least a similar regime for 6-APB, though to be on the safe side I'd recommend longer.

 

[XTC4Life]

Not interested in this kob guy, but just here to tell you about a combo I tried. Not saying it's safe or at all healthy but morphine and 6-apb is good stuff. It's very much more reminiscent of a XTC roll. I'm personally not a fan of heroin, but I guess morphine is just the pharmaceutical version of it so I guess I'm hypocritical (but will never touch street heroin). I just took the liquid orally and it was very nice, made me wanna dance and was more of a deeper "roll" Ok, Peace yall!

 

[6apbhmm]

I just want to add that 6-APB is only worth doing after a loooong pause from any serotonin drugs, I always considered myself as "fast serotonin recharger" but that was just my feeling - now I can confirm that doing 6-APB after 6 weeks without any affecting drugs was way better than just 2 or even 4 weeks after. Which is a huge shame, as I'd want to do this much more often but its worth to wait. Its not really addictive, despite the euphoria so it can be dobe. I only did some weed and booze in those 6 weeks and it was great, but once you take even micro dose of some clearly-serotonin-releasing drug, it will make APB weaker. :D

 

[Sepher]

I havnt had the chance to try this one yet.

On another note its interesting that the feeling of stimulation varies so much from person to person. I wonder if this is a result of differences in batches or individuals internal chemistry or set/setting....

Individual chemistry, certainly. I've had 6-APB from 3 suppliers, powder and pellets, and it always feels the same. Like most drugs, though there are broad commonalities the effects are very subjective.

 

[Redbong]

We should take a poll to see how many percentage of people get diarrhea from 6-apb

We should also have an anonymous poll to see how many % of people actually this think substance is like rolling.

I almost always have had diarrhea after, not during, 6-apb. Not as bad as 5-meo-dipt though, talk about shitting your guts out.

Definitely a wonderful roll. I feel 6-apb feels as good as MDMA, but lacks the "I love everything" factor of MDMA. 6-apb lasts a lot longer, but takes me 2.5 to 3 hours to hit peak.

 

[Transform]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...r-teen-dies-at-rockness-festival-7834602.html

Goodbye, friend.

 

[Shifty38]

Omicamushroom - NOS, Nitrous Oxide. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/nitrous/nitrous_effects.shtml

A lot of fun with 6-APB - after the peak. It'll change the whole complexion of the experience so only go there when you're ready to settle in and 'nest.' And, be careful with dosing. My friends refer to it as hippy crack. Very, very moreish. Also excellent with LSD and MDMA. Actually, it is very special with MDMA.

Transform - say it ain't so? Have to watch this one carefully. And, obviously there is also some very good advice in amongst the nonsense. Be careful with this stuff, particularly when taking it with alcohol. Only tried 6-APB and alcohol once. Had a couple of swigs of beer after the peak. Not fun.

Hope bluelight festival goers take care this weekend. Will I be seeing anyone there?

 

[Mela]

I just want to add that 6-APB is only worth doing after a loooong pause from any serotonin drugs

I had the pleasure of a serotonin-recharge of 20 years or so (bar mescaline now and again), and recently tried 6-APB - awesome :D

Given distant vague memories, seems very much akin to MDMA/MDA circa late 80s/90s. I've been reading through here the last couple of weeks and noted the variance in nausea during come-up. I tried the oft-used trick for Mescaline - split doses and consume 30 mins apart. Seemed to help, although perhaps I was always going to be a lucky soul in that regard. This was true even on a later redose. Some issues with vasoconstriction, though (nothing major). Maybe a result of the later (larger) dose.

Certainly a fan. As Transform notes, (probably) sadly soon to disappear[/noob]

 

[Jesusgreen]

^ The friends of the person who died had also taken the drug, however they all consumed "Benzo Fury" pills, which may or may not have been 6-APB. Due to the fact we haven't heard of many people having adverse reactions, and all of the group were hospitalised, I suspect they might have taken something other than 6-APB, unless they were just all on some dangerous combination or pushing the doses incredibly high as some people do..

Regarding MDA, I'd very much love to hear a side by side comparison between anyone who's tried them both. Would they be too hard to tell apart? Is one of them distinctly more euphoric etc in your opinion, or do they both have their place?

I have access to MDA but I don't have the funds at the moment and it's a lot more hassle for me to get than MDMA, 6-APB, 5-APB etc.

 

[Section813]

The friends state was described as 'comfortable'. I would venture to say it was 6-apb but this poor fellow was a victim of heat exposure compounded by the hyperthermia involved with the material. Ive witnessed similar unfortunate circumstances on mda in the 90s at warehouse parties. We have to be aware of our surroundings and the side effects of the substances we choose to consume.

 

[Mela]

Regarding MDA, I'd very much love to hear a side by side comparison between anyone who's tried them both. Would they be too hard to tell apart? Is one of them distinctly more euphoric etc in your opinion, or do they both have their place?

Back in the day, we didn't have that much insight what exactly was in each pill/cap (sadly - no testing kits and all rather new), but reliable sources (and no BZP in circulation etc) - there were two main experiences in my own experience. One would result in 'sledging' - so I think similar to what seems to now be called rolling (an opiate-style mellow sedation). I always assumed this was MDMA from reading available info at the time. The second was a more gradual upswing, with a speedier more trippy buzz (no notable sledging) - which I assumed was the MDA tabs. Both tended to produce euphoria and great times - but MDMA was just as good for a home-buzz. Of course, not entirely the most reliable insight due to time and place - pure MDMA and MDA was not readily available to compare under ideal conditions.

I felt that 6-APB had more MDMA aspects (notable sledging/rolling). Indeed, reminded me of my very first MDxx (a Disco-Biscuit, heh) - which I'm pretty damn sure was MDMA.

The friends of the person who died had also taken the drug, however they all consumed "Benzo Fury" pills, which may or may not have been 6-APB. Due to the fact we haven't heard of many people having adverse reactions, and all of the group were hospitalised, I suspect they might have taken something other than 6-APB, unless they were just all on some dangerous combination or pushing the doses incredibly high as some people do..

Sadly, doesn't matter as the moral panic the media will foster in the UK will lead to faster regulation of 6-APB (whether it was a factor or not).

 

[IamMe90]

^ The friends of the person who died had also taken the drug, however they all consumed "Benzo Fury" pills, which may or may not have been 6-APB. Due to the fact we haven't heard of many people having adverse reactions, and all of the group were hospitalised, I suspect they might have taken something other than 6-APB, unless they were just all on some dangerous combination or pushing the doses incredibly high as some people do..

Regarding MDA, I'd very much love to hear a side by side comparison between anyone who's tried them both. Would they be too hard to tell apart? Is one of them distinctly more euphoric etc in your opinion, or do they both have their place?

I have access to MDA but I don't have the funds at the moment and it's a lot more hassle for me to get than MDMA, 6-APB, 5-APB etc.

I've done MDA once before and 6-apb seemed like a much, much weaker cousin of MDA. 6-apb produced slight breathing and lame CEVs for me, with better music enhancement than MDMA. MDA produced full blown fractal tracer visuals with some of the best music enhancement I've ever experienced. It's worth noting that MDA was my first roll though, so my experience with it might be a lot more intense than someone else's.