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Opioids IV / injecting Loperamide

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Bluelighter
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So any good addict knows one thing. That Lop during opiate withdrawl will keep you somewhat sane. Now I was doingm y own research and long and behold...some junkie has thought of the same thing

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-347206.html

Would IVing it to cross the BBB be a choice? Ofc im talking with proper filtration and sterile works to be somewhat safe. IS lope water soluble? And if so has any brave addict attempted this before? :?
 
Assuming you mean loperamide, not "lopredamine"?

It is actually a myth that loperamide does not cross the blood brain barrier. It does, most of it is just usually pumped back out into non–CNS circulation by P-glycoprotein. You can use substances or foods that inhibit P-glycoprotein to keep it in the brain or take very high doses of loperamide.

I would never personally attempt to IV it, but I assume it would be similar in risk to IVing other pills that are not meant for injection.

I did see a study that said "When loperamide-containing nanoparticles are coated with polysorbate 80 and injected, the results were similar to other opioids - long, effective analgesia. A solution prepared using loperamide coated with polysorbate 80 resulted in a very short duration of action and less effective analgesic effect. The same study concluded that loperamide does not cause any analgesic effects when taken by itself."

Of course that would be a very painstaking process and not available to the average person. But I have heard a few people claim that they got stronger results from injecting it. But IMO that is way too much risk. And you would have no way of knowing what a safe dose would be.
 
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Wat? The lengths that some people will go through to get high is beyond me...

Assuming it was safe, which I'm pretty sure it's not, can you imagine the intense constipation from IV lope if you start chasing that "high"? 8o
 
People make all these ridiculous assumptions about loperamide blocking you up for ridiculous lengths and so forth and it's silly. Drugs can only constipate you so much. Single doses (even large doses) likely won't constipate you for more than a couple days AT MOST and if you eat enough fiver and stay properly hydrated, it's likely you'll be able to go just fine within 24 hours.

If people already have a large tolerance to opioids, that means they are used to putting large doses of massively constipating drugs into their systems and should know how to mitigate the risks of such whether it be through diet/exercise and/or through supplementing with stool softeners or laxatives if necessary.

I have used loperamide a lot to taper off opioids and I even use loperamide sometimes alone for primarily analgesic purposes due to cost and availability so I have a lot of experience with doses up to about 75mg and even with those, I am rarely constipated. The first BM after a dose like that might be a bit hard but rarely does it even produce 1-2 days of constipation.

If someone is using large doses DAILY and not doing anything to ensure regularity, I could envision it being problematic but I just wanted to comment on the prevalence of ill-informed comments about the degree of constipation loperamide will cause in opioid-tolerant individuals.

With that said, IVing loperamide sounds risky and unnecessary... best case scenario, you get a shitty loperamide "high", worst case, it's more potent than anticipated and you kill yourself. I can't image either case ever being worth it.
 
^ Having never used Loperamide, I was just going off of what I had read on Bluelight. Thanks for the clarification, C2L.
 
Hey. Im sure I'm not the first junkie this came too. I got a suboxone fornted to me by a friend but I can't help but wonder.

Since it dont cross BBB if I put it RIGHT INTO my Blood...would it?
 
For the 10,000th time, it DOES cross the BBB and then is exported back by P-glycoprotein. You would need to find a way around THAT.

It's called the Bood Brain BARRIER, just putting it in your blood won't prevent it from being exported back across that barrier.
 
I use lots of pepper to get it too cross. I know it does. I mean witohut another drug. no need to be so agressive. Jesus.
 
You'd probably die, seriously we get this thread every week. Look at the fetal pig studies (incomplete BBB in those animals) and look how quickly it kills the test animals in a non-opioid overdose fashion.
 
I use lots of pepper to get it too cross. I know it does. I mean witohut another drug. no need to be so agressive. Jesus.

If you know this, why are you asking this question? Although I think you still are missing it: because you then say in the same sentence "to get it to cross", when the person above you is saying it DOES cross, but crosses BACK.

And I'd be SERIOUSLY CONCERNED about an impacted bowel. The solution to which, when all others fail (and they might when you take massive doses of lope), is getting cut open and having the shit literally ripped out of you. Sounds worth it for a "lope buzz"? Not even a little bit in my book.
 
The people I have heard of injecting it said that the high was just like the "high" from taking a lot of lope orally and lasted a very short time. Which is not really a pleasant one. So with all the risks it's best to leave lope for combatting diarrhea and helping with opioid withdrawal symptoms.
 
^ this.

I've taken larger doses with little to no tolerance and while it's true that you get some opioid effects (analgesia, pruritis, etc), it really is no where near as euphoric as other opioids and when considering the disproportionate amount of constipation it causes, it seems best to use it sparingingly only when really necessary.
 
don't IV loperamide dude, come on. just fucking IV some water to satisfy your needle fetish and swallow the lope tabs
 
Lol I'm jking. I'm just saying...I mean most of you IV roxys, dillys, heroin, coke, and anything else. Yet I talk of IVing Lope and I get asked if Im retarded. Dillys contian MAD powder and almost no drug.

I want to thank the one person who answered my question...I want to say...actually I can't cause I got 2 mods just ITCHING to ban me for good. But for you all that just jocked on me and didnt even atempt to put any thought in it...you get the idea. I got my hand on some sub. It still is an interesting concept imo.
 
mods can't ban people for good (and for good reason ;))

BL really only permanently bans spammers and alt accounts. The staff overall are pretty forgiving and will give you a lot of chances.


/tangent
 
^ Yeah it is but the central effects of high-dose loperamide are well established. The science is simple - low doses do not produce central effects because a negligible amount remains in the brain due to P-gp but with sufficiently large doses, enough remains to produce significant central opioid effects. Inhibiting P-gp with substances such as piperidine (found in black pepper) are proven to increase the central effects loperamide produces.
 
I just read through the thread you linked to in the OP, and I am actually dumb-founded. Slamming super-glue and Immodium?
Personally, anyone who tries that should be denied health-care, natural selection will quickly eradicate bathroom sealant junkies....
 
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