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Stimulants Hints and Tips for Meth Smokers!

^you're actually right about this.
it's a psychological think.
nothing like dropping a bunch of shards in a pipe and hearing that crystal clear rattling chiming of your dope hitting the glass.
except registering. but that's different.
 
sounds like a good time in comparison x.x
i've been wreaking havoc on your forum all night, luckily i have the sense to clean up after myself.

wait slopes? like skiing? or is that some kind of drug slang?
 
Ok, I see some things I've been doing wrong, but this is a lot to take in, so I'll have to report back after giving it a try or two and seeing if I notice a difference. I'm SO thankful to you, littlepenguin, for the detailed post!!! Even the original post here didn't include all those details. See, for example, I didn't really know when to start inhaling! I was waiting for it to get a good smoke going, like enough to fill up the bowl, because otherwise I figured I'd be getting a tiny hit.

Yeah, it turns solid VERY quickly. Like, it's all I can do to rotate it without it solidifying as soon as it's not directly above the flame with each pass. You say that's a good sign for quality, right? This stuff was weird. When I got it, it was a bunch of shards in the bag, then they all stuck together like they must've been the moist/sticky kind, but they since dried again, so I've got one massive chunk that I have to break pieces off of.

I just bought this pipe when I started with this batch like a month ago. By now, it's kinda dirty, but that's not always been a problem. I'm lazy and haven't cleaned it yet, but twice I gave up on the contents of the bowl and scraped them out with a lock pick that happened to fit perfectly into the hole on top.

As far as quality, I've been doing meth for a while and have seen many batches. This is among the top based on looks and effect when snorted, so I don't think it's junk. But it does form bubbles of stuff on the inside of the bowl where the smoke would rise toward the hole, which I read was a sign it's cut with MSM?

And actually, I have indeed managed to make it smoke without it being liquid at all. But then, I was accomplishing that within about 20 seconds of beginning, so I guess I was just applying the heat way too directly.

This is such a precise art.... I had the same luck with needles, which ended up being the reason I quit using them. I couldn't get high unless someone else was around to hit my veins. But I'm better off not doing that shit anyway.

Idk if I can manage with a lighter. The flame from my candle is bigger than and theoretically hotter than (based on color) that from my lighter, so I'm just going to continue with the candle.

I'll try packing larger bowls also. I usually put a tiny amount because I know I'll turn it brown and want to add some fresh, so the bowl grows haha. Do you suggest putting in shards or crushed? I feel like it would heat more evenly if I crushed it at least into small pieces, because I have some big shards. Anyway, I'll probably post back here relatively soon, actually. Might as well put your info to the test. And I'm glad to hear the quality is good. I definitely see it turn brown more slowly, if at all, when I do it "right" by accident. So now if I can do it right on purpose, that'll be great!
 
Drumroll please.....

....SUCCESS! I'm still using the candle. I packed a bigger bowl than usual. I was very patient and held it as far away as you suggested, littlepenguin. The only thing is, the first couple of hits I started as soon as I saw smoke, and I got nothing into my lungs. Plus even though I kept it over the flame and kept rolling, when I finished my hit, it was solidified again. So it's like it's being very slow to melt. So I had to try again and try to get more of it to be liquid before I took a hit, which meant a teeny tiny bit of smoke was wasted while waiting, but that's ok, because I'm getting good hits. This stuff is seriously all but impossible to keep liquified, especially with a large amount in the bowl, because unless I twirl really quickly (which I've found out was part of my problem as well, going slower like you suggested helped) it just solidified on one side while I'm liquifying the other and vice versa.

With enough luck, I managed to get a couple of great hits with little to no wasted smoke by walking the tightrope and getting a large amount of it to liquify before any of it started smoking. I have shit for lung capacity, so if I start a slow draw when it first starts smoking, I'm spent before I've gotten a significant amount of smoke in my lungs.

Anyway, the tips really helped me out! It's even solidifying crystal clear, pun intended. :D


Edit: Still having trouble going to the extreme of not wanting to burn it so I end up not getting a hit at all, but I'm getting better. This is a very delicate art. I did just happen to get the most impressive monster hit I've ever taken of any drug in my life, though! It was difficult getting it all to melt, and I let some smoke be wasted while waiting, but once the entire amount was liquid and had been for a few seconds, I was able to get a good hit. I have to keep reminding myself not to roll too fast. In fact, I have to keep some heat kind of directly on the really thick areas for a second or two before they'll even respond at all (maybe TOO big a bowl or too thick a pipe?)
I do think I'll switch to a lighter when I can find a good, reliable one, because the candle flame wiggles too much with my breath.

Edit #2: So I notice that the times when I get the good hits is when the smoke feels warm entering my throat and the pile stays liquid for more than a brief second after removed from flame, so obviously I need to be getting it good and hot. Why would it be that I'm having trouble getting it hot? Because I'm using a candle with the thick pipe, maybe? Or is that still just my own impatience, hitting it before it's good and warm (although if I wait any longer, half the bowl will have evaporated into the air)? I also notice the first hit after I pack or after I pick back up once letting it cool down doesn't go so well, and they steadily get better, which reinforces the idea that it needs to be getting hotter. Do I need to give it more time over the flame but try to roll it/take it away as soon as it tries to smoke then resume to keep from wasting my shit? Or maybe I really do just have too much in the bowl?
I'm not sure. I need some extra advice on WHY it's behaving the way it is, though I can't thank you enough for giving me enough info to get good hits, regardless of what I have to go through to get them! I accidentally bought more than I wanted, so I don't mind some trial and error, as long as I actually do get high. :)
 
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It always matters. Shiny side down, you never put the shiny side in contact with food, or drugs, or anything you use foil with. Shiny side= sprayed with toxic coating, you can and should burn this off first and watch it go up in black smoke..;)

damn. ive been smoking 3+ years every day with the shiny side up. thought it made the fentanyl light up better.
and im a total pro at smoking. i can use a straw and suck every little bit of smoke in from the hit.
but ive just got a little self-made "pipe" i use to smoke off of foil, its cool because every once in a while i can actually burn the pipe itself (made out of foil, also) and it has enough tar or whatever of fentanyl leftovers that it gives you a few actual good puffs and a decent high, heh.
but from now on, shiny side down, always. :)
 
Nah dude, the shiny side is sprayed with a chemical coating, it's because foil is supposed to be used for food haha.

Just torch the foil like a noob would when trying to smoke and they burn everything. Apply direct flame to the shiny side for a few seconds, and I recommend doing this outside as it creates a noxious black smoke when the coating is destroyed.
 
Dude..... How could we both forget: H20???? I'm sure you have access to it.

What just washing the pipe out? Its all crystalized on the inside... but I guess it is soluble in water huh?

Think I'll just let it all collect then, some day when I want some amp to wake me up I could just put a bit of water in there, let it dissolve and have a nice small dose
 
Yeah I don't know why I listed all that other shit. I mean, it's valid advice for CLEANING your pipe, but H20 is the best, because usually I save the H20 used to clean the pipe, let most of it evaporate and then it on foil.
Be careful doing this, its like how people drink the bong water after smoking methamphetamine, it's freely soluble in water and you must be careful as dangerous levels of methamphetamine will accumulate

I no longer use glass, as I have far more precision and a great technique with foil. But I don't vaporize methamphetamine anymore, too fiendish.
 
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I didn't find smoking to be THAT much more fiendish, no more so than meth's normal crazy strong urges...

I'm actually content now, don't really need to use more at all. I want to finish this last bit up though, because I know if I dont do it today I just will tomorrow, and I'd rather start recovery tomorrow instead.

I've smoked about a point so far today, and gave my friend 25-50mgs. Gonna do 2 ~30mg lines, then smoke a few hits and see if I'm going to call it quits or not

Ive got probably .1 left, one nice fat crystal
 
Yeah I don't know why I listed all that other shit. I mean, it's valid advice for CLEANING your pipe, but H20 is the best, because usually I save the H20 used to clean the pipe, let most of it evaporate and then it on foil.
Be careful doing this, its like how people drink the bong water after smoking methamphetamine, it's freely soluble in water and you must be careful as dangerous levels of methamphetamine will accumulate

I no longer use glass, as I have far more precision and a great technique with foil. But I don't vaporize methamphetamine anymore, too fiendish.

Seriously? Dangerous levels? I take it these can be injected? (sorry, i'm intrigued, but not condoning my own reckless behavior by any means)

I just finished the last bowl of the best glass i have ever seen, and i'm disappointed i didn't have the chance to inject. i smoked like .75 between last night and today so my piece is all crystally.

I've never had any luck collecting the meth "resin" though and if you say this will work I'll take your word for it.

Also, I'm glad your plan worked Foley. Hope you enjoyed it.
 
^ Anything can be injected, but contemplating injecting meth resin is a dangerous idea. There's no telling what impurities or cuts were in the meth that you smoked. Would you be willing to inject yourself with an unknown cut(s) and risk a myriad of complications? You could always just follow tricomb's advice about consuming the meth orally.
 
^ Anything can be injected, but contemplating injecting meth resin is a dangerous idea. There's no telling what impurities or cuts were in the meth that you smoked. Would you be willing to inject yourself with an unknown cut(s) and risk a myriad of complications? You could always just follow tricomb's advice about consuming the meth orally.
the only reason i wasn't to begin with was because i didn't have a point. however you are correct: injecting anything is an awful idea and should not be attempted by anybody under any circumstance whatsoever (srsly)

also, i tried to take his advice, but this was the finest straight up glass i've ever seen and i just couldn't bring myself to eat it.
 
I have heard horror stories from people drinking the water out of a tweak bubbler. Because methamphetamine is FREELY soluble in water, as any pro knows, when prepping for IV, rectal, or any aqueous solution, good crystal dissolves in less than a second, on contact with water.

So I always wonder why people use bong water anyways? I'll bet a HUGE amount of your hit goes into the water. I've known people who drank the water from ONE smoking session, (obviously she took it orally, thank god, did not IV it or rectal) and had INSANE levels of methamphetamine in her blood after we took her the ER and got the toxicology report..... shit..... Just be so careful.

With ANY substance when you don't know it's concentration, not just meth, it's seriously russian roulette. What if someone took their normal amount of GHB and it turned out to be 100% pure? A better analogy would be heroin, like if you are shooting multiple bags in one shot, what if JUST ONE of those bags in the shot had a chip off the block SOMEHOW (MISTAKES HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY BY DRUG DEALERS).

This is why I have a strong dislike for street drugs, I need to know WHAT im putting in my body, and EXACTLY HOW MUCH.
 
Also, I'm glad your plan worked Foley. Hope you enjoyed it.

Was nice... really nice lol, especially the first few hits. I really don't see the big fuss about it though... its the same high really, it just hits faster


Got to say though, I love those 30 seconds or so after you take a nice hit.. I'm going to finish my last ~.1, going to smoke it all within a half hour probably.
 
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