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Heroin Question about cross tolerance and first time good h use

The real world of drugs and addiction is something that most people on this site live or have lived. You're right there are a few young people on here learning, but the mission of this website is to promote the reduction of harm, to everyone, seasoned veterans included.

If you have a problem with rectal administration, why are you taking it out on me? Don't hate the player...

If you don't like the advice, don't follow it. However others may have a more open mind, and putting drugs up their ass is safer than a needle in their arm.
 
tricomb said:
The real world of drugs and addiction is something that most people on this site live or have lived. You're right there are a few young people on here learning, but the mission of this website is to promote the reduction of harm, to everyone, seasoned veterans included.
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Well you've done it. Plugging. Problem solved.
 
Anyway since noone seems intent on answering hsi question lol I will say it is impossible for us to know how much you should do..even if you know some dea seizure shit about it. Every body is different, only you can guage your tolerance.

All you can do is start small and work your way up, You can always do more but you can't do less.

As far as IVing goes..unless you are a current IVer, do not even consider this option as it is pointless.. sniffing will get you nice and high. Or you can do plugging and stuff but to me that's a fuckload of work and the results don;'t warrant it.. but thats my opinion. Scientifically plugging is better than sniffing as far as BA. But if you are just looking to use less H and thast why you want to IV, don't even think abou tit. You will very soon be doing just as much as you did when you sniffed. I highly doubt you could find a single IVer that doesn't have atleast some regret about switching from insufflation to shooting.
 
tricomb said:
The OP seemed intent on IV use? From what I got he was expressing his doubts and I wanted to try and deter him from making a mistake
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Already tried it my man and to be completely honest I didnt really know how much better it was than snorting honestly the rush ya its sorta better but snorting just lasts longer. I am not a total junked out asshole i live a relatively normallife any way
 
Did the lactose do anything? Like was the injection site irritated at all? Shooting lactose is a very dangerous idea.
 
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mr.scagnattie said:
For real dude..not every answer is to just shove something up your ass. You're pushing that angle hard, huh? Don't know what that says about you..every post I read from you is basically a suggestion to plug something.. most of us aren't so quick to just say, "Hey.. how about I start shoving shit up my ass?"

To the OP, start gradually when making the transition to IV'ing, obviously. You need to figure out your own dosage and how it converts from snorting-shooting. Good bet is to just do half your normal dose at first, but you could have probably come to that conclusion yourself. And about the lactose and tolerant thing..I've never heard of it being an issue. I don't think there is enough dairy products, (provided your stuff is cut with something lactose based), in a dose to provoke any kind of reaction.
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Thanks man I hate when people try to act like the information should not be given that im seeking if its potentially harmful it isnt really harm reduction at all. And to the ass plugger im sorry nut not all of have homosexual like tendanciess to lean towards.
 
Rectal administration has nothing to do with any sexual tendencies, if you prefer to IV that is your decision, however it is much more dangerous. If you're going to mainline, be sure to micron filter.


I'm not trying to convert anyone to rectal administration as if it's some religion, I was merely suggesting a safer alternative I could care less if you don't want to use that ROA it's your decision.
 
pantiespending said:
And to the ass plugger im sorry nut not all of have homosexual like tendanciess to lean towards.
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Well, thank god we're not all of us have homophobic tendencies to lean towards... :\ Just try to have an open mind instead of falling back on the bigotry of the (your) status quo... it can safe your life you know.
 
toothpastedog said:
Where you're from has nothing to do with it.

There are certain rules and standard you as member of this website have already agreed to adhere to. Although I don't think you were really encouraging IV use (as the OP seemed intent on such), you have no business trying to marginalize or insult someone for making a suggestion that promotes the values of our little online community here.

This is not the dope house. This is not the park.

This is BLUELIGHT...
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Swain said:
Anyway since noone seems intent on answering hsi question lol I will say it is impossible for us to know how much you should do..even if you know some dea seizure shit about it. Every body is different, only you can guage your tolerance.

All you can do is start small and work your way up, You can always do more but you can't do less.

As far as IVing goes..unless you are a current IVer, do not even consider this option as it is pointless.. sniffing will get you nice and high. Or you can do plugging and stuff but to me that's a fuckload of work and the results don;'t warrant it.. but thats my opinion. Scientifically plugging is better than sniffing as far as BA. But if you are just looking to use less H and thast why you want to IV, don't even think abou tit. You will very soon be doing just as much as you did when you sniffed. I highly doubt you could find a single IVer that doesn't have atleast some regret about switching from insufflation to shooting.
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Thank both of you these were the replies I was looking for props. Still kinda windering about the shooting the lactose being lactose intolerance
 
WAIT?! What?! Shooting lactose?!!??

Sorry, you lost me... But anyhoo, I actually prefer snorting heroin to shooting it. I've spend a bit of time doing both, and I'd take some powder up my nose to in my vein ANYday. Seems like you've come to the same conclusion?
 
tricomb said:
Rectal administration has nothing to do with any sexual tendencies, if you prefer to IV that is your decision, however it is much more dangerous. If you're going to mainline, be sure to micron filter.


I'm not trying to convert anyone to rectal administration as if it's some religion, I was merely suggesting a safer alternative I could care less if you don't want to use that ROA it's your decision.
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Reslly judt joking but i already tried that iv not ,uch better than sniffing to be honest. All im trying to say I understand the risks sor I wouldnt be asking. I am a college educated individual(and not thst thats a big deal) but not all of us are drooling dope fiends asleep at the computer
 
I don't think he or anyone was implying such (I certainly never meant to). Tricomb knows what's up. When we call people junkies we do it in a loving way (most of the time at least). And we're both also college educated (I agree, not necessarily a big thing, but it can be given what you do with it while you're there and after). And we're also pretty dashing looking lady's men (well, I shouldn't speak for Mr. Tricomb... ;)).

I think there are actually way fewer people on BL who fit the stereotypical demonizing imagery of the traditional dope fiend. But I've been wrong before ;)
 
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I don't get what you mean by your last sentence. I never implied anyone was drooling at their computer? I didn't call anyone a junkie either.

Are you micron filtering your shots? You really should be since street drugs are highly cut.
 
I think he's fine in terms of the micron filtering. Of course, it's true, such is not whatsoever a bad idea. But I would like to think, from what he's/she's said, they are gonna stick with sniffing, at least for the present.

Regardless, I'm proud of you panties for finding the virtues of snorting over shooting :)
 
Yeah man I am confused as to whether you shoot or not and also what you mean about being lactose intolerant. Do you mean you fear your dope could be cut with that and how you would react shooting it vs sniffing it? I would think if your dope had lactose or baby milk or something it would not mix up translucent like apple juice..no idea though.

But if you don't shoot honestly sniffing is seriously better. First of all learning to shoot you can do a lot of damage.. it's easy after a while but especially if your totally on your own, #1 theres noone there to call 911 if you OD, and #2 it's not as easy as you think.. you might end up doing something crazy like I remember this 14 yo posting on here about learning to shoot, he tied off and was shooting with the tie on and still managed to pass out half way through his shot, then he woke up and kind of jumped with the pin still in him and it tore out tearing the vein and blood gushing he had to go the ER.

Seriously sniffing lasts longer, and is definitely safer. Also it's easier to do on the go.. try mixing a shot adn shooting while driving (don't do that lol), but sniffing you can do wherever whenever just tear open a bag and SWOOF its in your nose.

I'll be honest.. i shoot, and I wish I could go back to sniffing. Seriously once you shoot for a while your brain develops a brick wall telling you sniffing anythign is a waste lol. And any benefit from shooting doesn't last forever.. soon you'll be spending just as much loot but with higher dependency, and its also risky. When you shoot you decide your dose prior to dosing, sniffing you can kind of guage it as you are sniffing your lines (that is assuming you do more than a line). Also you don;t have to worry about buying a new tool to bring with you that's paraphanalia i.e. pins. You don't have to worry about cotton fever, or having bite marks in weird plces on your belt lol.
 
I had about a year clean back in 05' or 06' and for whatever reason, decided to get back on the train..but I told myself I'd loose the needle and go back to snorting, (how I originally started out, all be it a very long time ago and only for a few months before switching to IV), So I did that for a couple weeks..It didn't last. Part of the reason I became so addicted to heroin and loved it so much, was because of the rush. You don't get that from snorting unfortunately. Trust me..I don't think I could name any IV user who would choose to keep jabbing needles in there body if someone told them they'd get that same feeling from sniffing. But you don't. Granted like Swain mentioned, it's a lot more work to use when your ROA is IV..so I suppose every user at some point has to ask themselves what they really like about dope. I have met people, in person and on BL, that consciously pick sniffing because they like it better, or the rush to them isn't worth all the effort and shit involved with fixing. I wish I was one of them, and if the OP is..well than, God bless. You might have just saved your life, hah. But if you do decide to go that IV route, on your own, now or sometime in the future, at least there are threads here to make the act of IV drug use as safe as possible, and it can be safe. With proper technique, a reliable drug source, fresh rigs, proper cleaning and maintenance. But you're never going to be as safe as if you elect not to inject.
 
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