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Magnesium For Anxiety? ANXIETY SUPPLEMENTATION

yteek

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I got some magnesium oxide and apparently this isn't what I was aiming for as far as using it to combat anxiety?

What kind should I look for?

Has anyone had success with as far as anxiety goes?

I'm open to trying other things, as well.

Please tell if you have any success with using supplementation to combat anxiety.

Might give 5htp another try but I don't know yet if its worth it.

Thanks in advance.
 
Magnesium oxide isn't even worth taking for any purposes IMO. I would definitely throw it out.

Magnesium chelates are the way to go, and glycinate, aspartate, orotate, and malate are some of the better forms.

**These are just the best forms in general. I've never taken Mg for anxiety pruposes.**
 
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5htp is worth trying again, imo. It's had a *profound* effect on my mood, sleep, thought patterns and cravings. I'd worry about overdoing it, imo.
 
5-htp is crap. It is toxic to your cardiovascular system.

I use a concentrated mineral blend that is more or less highly potent seawater. The most abundant mineral is magnesium. Using stimulants, even caffeine, depletes your magnesium so it's good to restore your levels with a supplements, just not the oxide form.

Meditation has been my greatest tool to combat anxiety. That and quitting weed. Theanine is great too.
 
Could anyone recommend a good brand?

I see most over the counter products contain the oxide form.
 
5-htp is crap. It is toxic to your cardiovascular system.

It's an amino acid our bodies even synthesize. What part of that could possibly be cardiotoxic? Hey, technically oxygen is corrosive, I guess we should just stop breathing.

ANYWAY... back on topic... I take Magnesium Bisglycinate from time to time and find that it improves my mood when I'm feeling really scattered, but I prefer to just get all the good nutrients by drinking lots of mineral water. Mineral water is really popular in Europe for its alkalizing effect on the body and the fact that it's loaded with all kinds of nutrients. It really should catch on elsewhere, but I guess if people who don't like the taste refuse to drink it then it's their loss.
 
Hey, our bodies naturally produce GHB, what could possibly be toxic about it?! And hey, real smart analogy with the oxygen.


The 5-HTP to serotonin conversion occurs with the assistance of l-aromatic amino acid decarboxylase; most cells in your body contain this enzyme, and the net effect is that <1% of 5-HTP actually makes it to your brain. You can do your own research on the effects of a bunch of serotonin floating around where it doesn't belong.


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just a couple quotes from a simple google search..


"5-HTP can cause hypertension by increasing plasma renin activity, when not co-administered with a peripheral aromatic L-amino acid decarboxylase inhibitor, such as carbidopa or benserazide"

"Some clinicians suggest that 5-HTP be administered with a peripheral decarboxylase inhibitor (such as carbidopa) to prevent elevated serotonin levels in the bloodstream (and the subsequent side effects)."

"Safety, Side Effects and Warnings:

5-HTP should not be used by those hypersensitive to any component of a 5-HTP-containing product. It is also contraindicated in people with carcinoid tumors, and during or within 2 weeks after discontinuation of an MAOI.

Large doses of 5-HTP can trigger excess of serotonin formation in tissues other than the target organ and cause significant adverse effects. It should not be used concurrently with any antidepressant, including SSRIS, tricyclics, or MAOIs. Concurrent 5-HTP use with an antidepressant may increase the risk of adverse reactions. 5-HTP should not be used by those with ischemic heart disease, coronary artery spasm, uncontrolled hypertension and any other significant cardiovascular disease."

"At the very best, people who take B-vitamins with 5-HTP, or
who take 5-HTP products with B6, waste their money. All this
would be merely humorous (caveat emptor) were it not for some
other facts. At worst, ignorant people fooling with 5-HTP
actually risk their health, since serotonin in the peripheral
blood is not benign. Serotonin causes not only harmless flushing
and diarrhea, but people with serotonin secreting tumors (hindgut
carcinoids) also have problems with fibrosis of the endocardium
and valves in their right hearts, which can cause heart failure.
This fibrosis is caused by the serotonin. This effect can also
be seen with dietary intake of only modest amounts of serotonin,
and there has actually been described in the medical literature a
tribe of South Sea islanders with right heart fibrosis as a
result of eating green banana mash (matuki), which poisons them
with its serotonin content. No, I'm not making this up. The
hydroxylation of tryptophan is a rate-limiting step in the
peripheral production of serotonin, and one bypasses it at one's
peril.

How much does it take? Several hundred milligrams of 5-HTP
taken per day, if converted to serotonin, would result in a
urinary excretion of the serotonin metabolite 5-hydroxyindoleac-
etic acid (5-HIAA) of several hundred milligrams also-- an amount
well within the urinary excretion range of the average person
with a serotonin producing carcinoid. Such a dose of 5-HTP
certainly would result in a serotonin blood load comparable to
that of green-banana-diet eating people who have
serotonin-induced heart valve disease. Normally, people do not
excrete breakdown products of more than 10 mg of serotonin
metabolites per day. If you take one capsule per day of 50 mg
5-HTP with 10 mg B6, however, you would be expected to go to at
least 50 mg per day of 5-HIAA in the urine. Less metabolism in
the liver (less B6) would result in less 5-HIAA in the urine. If
you are going to take 5-HTP, therefore, you probably need 5-HIAA
urine monitoring, to figure out just how big a dose of systemic
serotonin you're actually getting (and incidentally, how much
5-HTP you're wasting). See a doctor!

For all the reasons outlined above, I am presenting those
vitamin companies who sell 5-HTP with B6, or who sell it alone
but don't warn their customers about 5-HIAA monitoring or B6
intake, a special award: the Green Banana Award. This honor is
for those supplement-sellers who monkey around with people's
health before consulting with some really good nutrition and
medical specialists to make sure they don't f*&% up and hurt
somebody. Hopefully, companies which receive the Green Banana
Award will contemplate its message, and will thereby change their
behavior in order to avoid some of the less-coveted awards which
otherwise await them in the future: the Civil Damage Award, for
instance, or even the All-Expense-Paid Guest of the Federal
Government Award." -Steven B. Harris, M.D.
 
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Please tell if you have any success with using supplementation to combat anxiety.

having not tried magnesium myself, though I should.
I am having great succes with Ginkgo Biloba extract 120 mg (lowers cortisol), Aswaghanda extract 950 mg , Lithium orotate 4.8 mg.
And recently added Bacopa Monnierri 1 gram (pure organic form) and Rhodiola extract 400 mg (mainly for my ADD).
There is certainly a lot you can do with herbs good luck.
 
Are you speaking from personal experience? I have not tried it. From the reports that I have read, the consensus seems to be that the best use of it is PRN rather than ED.
 
Supplements I would recommend for anxiety (from personal experience and also my doctors advice) are vitamin b6, vitamin b12, Omega-3 DHA and EPA, inositol, and lean proteins eaten at every meal. Green tea also contains the amino acid l-theanine which can produce a calming effect in the brain. Keeping your blood sugar stable with lean proteins and vegetables at every meal will help stabilize your mood and increase the natural production of serotonin in your brain, as well as consuming foods that contain tryptophan (the 5htp you're taking, but directly ingested rather than a pill). More serotonin in your brain = less anxiety. Feel better <3


Oh, also, ditch the caffeine and alcohol if you haven't already, they do nothing but prolong and worsen anxiety symptoms. Even if you think it isn't affecting you, it more than likely is.
 
Are you speaking from personal experience? I have not tried it. From the reports that I have read, the consensus seems to be that the best use of it is PRN rather than ED.

A friend took phenibut daily for 2 months and says the WDs are 10x worse than normal benzo wd and lasted about a month.
 
Slow Mag, which has Magmesium Chloride, helps way, way better for me for my heart palpitations (I've had them since age 20, Internist and Cardiologist said I have floppy mitral valve with mild regurgitation) than Magnesium Oxide and has no side effects for me. Years ago, I took Tenormin (beta blocker), which also helped with the palpitations but made my heart rate too slow and left me feeling profoundly tired all of the time. I take 2 of the Slow Mag tablets in the morning and 2 in the evening.

The palpitations tend to make me feel anxious and uncomfortable, so the magensium does indirectly by that means decrease my anxiety.
 
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GABA was AMAZING for my anxiety. It started really working after a couple days. I just took one each morning and I was soooo much better.
I am not sure what exactly it does, but I can say it worked great for me.
There is one problem with it. I can't back this with scientific evidence, but from my experience, MDMA does NOT work when you're taking GABA supplements. I'd been taking GABA for a few weeks, tried MDMA. I just couldn't get "there". My boyfriend took the same amount and he was feeling great. I felt nice but nothing amazing. A month and a half later, I had MORE than my boyfriend, he felt it, I felt nice but that's all. I stopped taking GABA and the next time I tried MDMA, all was good.
But if you don't do MDMA, it's great!!! :P :D
 
More serotonin in your brain = less anxiety.

Er, not exactly? Note the preponderance of anxiety caused by 5HT agonists. Note that anxiety is often an adverse effect of SRI's and can be an adverse effect of 5HT release agents. Finally, at some point, it starts become psychosis and eventually a toxidrome often marked by extreme agitation and anxiety.

More is not always better. As well as the non psychogenic adverse effects like G.I. upset, tremors, etc.
 
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