[MEGA] Cannabis Quitting Thread aka I need a break

[nekointheclouds]

well thats kinda up to you. If i didnt get kinda nauseated most every morning i would prolly skip the tokes in the morning. Sometimes i feel up to it and will go without, but i find in times of breaks my issues with appetite and nausea in the morning seem to increase making it necessary for me.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I wake up with nausea too neko!

I have noticed that people who go for a break from cannabis are normally...

1) those who legitimately feel they want a break from cannabis

or

2) those who are kind of being "forced" to quit or take a break due to legal problems.

For the first group of folks (as when one has legal problems it is best to abstain from all drugs) - are you vaporizing? I have heard many theories which link smoking cannabis to many negative side effects to cannabis use that seem to never happen to me, especially since I've switched primarily to vaporizing cannabinoids such as earwax - and maybe smoking hash but not so much smoking cannabis.

 

[FnX]

I wake up with nausea too neko!

I have noticed that people who go for a break from cannabis are normally...

1) those who legitimately feel they want a break from cannabis

or

2) those who are kind of being "forced" to quit or take a break due to legal problems.

For the first group of folks (as when one has legal problems it is best to abstain from all drugs) - are you vaporizing? I have heard many theories which link smoking cannabis to many negative side effects to cannabis use that seem to never happen to me, especially since I've switched primarily to vaporizing cannabinoids such as earwax - and maybe smoking hash but not so much smoking cannabis.

Vaporizing has made me experience more negative symptoms actually, but that's just because of increased efficiency. I get more cannabinoids from the same amount of material, less is destroyed and with vaporizers it's much easier to work on breathing techniques. It's a pet peeve of mine to see people use cannabis with improper intake techniques, exhaling huge amounts of active compounds. It's like making a huge ass coke line, snorting 1/3 of it and then sneezing so that the rest is blown in the air. Afterwards you brag how huge your coke line was, ignoring the fact that most of it is actually scattered all around bathroom floor...

I'd argue that if you're using a vaporizer and there's visible vapor coming out when you exhale, you're doing it wrong. Uh, I guess I got a bit carried away sorry.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Vaporizing has made me experience more negative symptoms actually, but that's just because of increased efficiency. I get more cannabinoids from the same amount of material, less is destroyed and with vaporizers it's much easier to work on breathing techniques. It's a pet peeve of mine to see people use cannabis with improper intake techniques, exhaling huge amounts of active compounds. It's like making a huge ass coke line, snorting 1/3 of it and then sneezing so that the rest is blown in the air. Afterwards you brag how huge your coke line was, ignoring the fact that most of it is actually scattered all around bathroom floor...

I'd argue that if you're using a vaporizer and there's visible vapor coming out when you exhale, you're doing it wrong. Uh, I guess I got a bit carried away sorry.

Well you have to keep in mind while your statement may be true for vaporizing cannabis (especially with your lovely volcano or whatnot), when I use earwax to a skillet, I'm always exhaling something visible. No matter how long I hold it in.

 

[FnX]

Well you have to keep in mind while your statement may be true for vaporizing cannabis (especially with your lovely volcano or whatnot), when I use earwax to a skillet, I'm always exhaling something visible. No matter how long I hold it in.

I think that means you're taking too big hits, if you take many small hits totaling to the same amount as one big hit material-wise, more of it ends in your body. You're right though that it's different when vaporizing, if you're smoking the stuff then there's other stuff too along with the cannabinoids that you might not want in your body at all plus the fact that combustion can destroy some cannabinoids. As far as breathing techniques go, I'm not sure if holding one's breath is that beneficial anyway. Absorption-wise I believe it's better to just breathe in super slow and exhale super slow with little to no pausing. Try doing one full breath (in and out) over the course of 30 seconds for example.

 

[Folley]

^^ When I was smoking wax (just with a lighter on top of weed in my pipe) I would almost always blow a out a cloud of smoke. Mind you my flame never touched the wax, it would be a few CM above it.

The first hit would sometimes be vapor though, if I took a small hit and held the lighter quite a ways above it. It would melt and all that, but not combust. When I breathed out it would be nothing, but I could still feel the high.

Anyways when I just took a normal hit I would get a lot more smoke and I would get much higher.


and actually, if your breathing in smoke, but breathing out nothing, thats quite bad for you... it means all the tar and other non-THC type chemicals are staying in your lungs

 

[FnX]

It's a fact though that a huge portion of THC is lost even among vaporizing users because of improper breathing techniques. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16637053 <- 35% of inhaled THC on average according to that study, not sure how exactly it was measured since I don't have the access to the full study. I am 100% sure I exhale much less than that and I'm 100% sure some people exhale over 50% because of super poor breathing techniques. My lungs are also much, much healthier than any of my friends and I usually use cannabis daily, so I'm not causing any extra harm to myself either, but then again I rarely heat mine to combustion. Taking drugs through lungs isn't fire and forget like eating them would be and there's a world of difference between for example breathing shallow and breathing deep. Examining the air you exhale visually is usually a good indicator of what's going on.

Oh, and this is going to be the second night of my break from cannabis, wish me luck with sleep and empty the sweat buckets hehe. I was hoping I could last maybe three months or so, but it's a longshot.

 

[iskalla]

im at 90 days without weed today, or at least i would be if i didnt smoke last week. a friend was in town and i allowed myself to smoke for a day. it wasnt that fun and luckily i have not smoked since. i do notice however, that i am now more inclined to slip up. so i imposed another 90 days of no weed on myself. again, i have to say that both my physical and mental health have improved a lot and that i do not need it as much as i thought i did. its just hard to realize that when it has become such a habit. you think a lot of activities arent fun without weed, when in fact that is not the case. i even enjoy many typical stoner acitvities (xbox, movies, social gatherings) more when im sober.

 

[FnX]

im at 90 days without weed today, or at least i would be if i didnt smoke last week. a friend was in town and i allowed myself to smoke for a day. it wasnt that fun and luckily i have not smoked since. i do notice however, that i am now more inclined to slip up. so i imposed another 90 days of no weed on myself. again, i have to say that both my physical and mental health have improved a lot and that i do not need it as much as i thought i did. its just hard to realize that when it has become such a habit. you think a lot of activities arent fun without weed, when in fact that is not the case. i even enjoy many typical stoner acitvities (xbox, movies, social gatherings) more when im sober.

Did you smoke daily/a lot and experience problems with short-term memory? If so, how long did you have to abstain to start feeling normal again? I feel like my memory is even worse now that I haven't been using in a few days but that could also be due to the fact that my mind is getting a little bit clearer and I actually notice the deficits much better. Didn't take long though to start feeling better in other areas (although still worse than two weeks ago before the break) but that's probably thanks to me tapering my use to once a day just before sleep and then starting the break.

 

[weekend addiction]

My mind seemed to be foggy as hell after 15 days without the ganja recently. I started back to moderate daily use and feel much clearer headed. Some might say I didn't take a long enough break... I think that cannabis helps me focus and improves my mood. Its hard to think clearly when your depressed which I was until I started smoking again. But I got a break coming my way soon anyway...

 

[Jibult]

My mind seemed to be foggy as hell after 15 days without the ganja recently. I started back to moderate daily use and feel much clearer headed. Some might say I didn't take a long enough break... I think that cannabis helps me focus and improves my mood. Its hard to think clearly when your depressed which I was until I started smoking again. But I got a break coming my way soon anyway...

I'm a month and 3 weeks strong, and pretty much bi-polar these days. A little bit of good news and I'm riding a giddy, sociable natural high, but a monotonous day or negative moment is like the end of zee world.

Right now I'm all giddy and sociable because I have an interview in the morning, but let that get fucked up and I'll probably be pissed for a few days.

 

[Jibult]

So, uh.... does anybody else that's quit ever have dreams revolving around drugs? The past couple nights I keep having variations of the same dream where I'm on vacation in a hotel with a group of friends, end up taking a few tabs of acid or mescaline, and towards the end of my night in the dream I wander into a room I think is mine, find a ziplock bag full of the E-pills I first ever tried (and the best I've ever had in my life) and about half an ounce of strange looking but top notch bud. Naturally, I snatch up everything and dip out of the vacation and end up back home with all my drugs in hand and start selling the shit out of the rolls while I smoke my ill-gotten gains, and along the way my best friend just keeps handing me acid tabs/blotter like nobody's business for no reason at all.

Suffice to say, when I wake up I'm always expecting to be intoxicated with a ton of cash at my disposal only to find that I'm still broke, sober, and looking for legal employment. This shit is getting old... my dreams are better than real life, but fuck are they fun.

 

[FnX]

So, uh.... does anybody else that's quit ever have dreams revolving around drugs? The past couple nights I keep having variations of the same dream where I'm on vacation in a hotel with a group of friends, end up taking a few tabs of acid or mescaline, and towards the end of my night in the dream I wander into a room I think is mine, find a ziplock bag full of the E-pills I first ever tried (and the best I've ever had in my life) and about half an ounce of strange looking but top notch bud. Naturally, I snatch up everything and dip out of the vacation and end up back home with all my drugs in hand and start selling the shit out of the rolls while I smoke my ill-gotten gains, and along the way my best friend just keeps handing me acid tabs/blotter like nobody's business for no reason at all.

Suffice to say, when I wake up I'm always expecting to be intoxicated with a ton of cash at my disposal only to find that I'm still broke, sober, and looking for legal employment. This shit is getting old... my dreams are better than real life, but fuck are they fun.

Haha yes, my break has barely lasted a week and I've already had this dream where someone for some reason accidently, instead of mailing me a drug test kit, mailed me a drug TEST kit. It had multiple doses of MDMA, MDA, Mescaline, GHB, LSD, various amphetamines... you name it. I was so excited I woke up almost immediately upon discovering this package

 

[Jibult]

That's good to know... I thought it was kind of weird that this kind of shit was permeating into my dreams.

 

[FnX]

That's good to know... I thought it was kind of weird that this kind of shit was permeating into my dreams.

There's nothing weird about it really, intense drug themed dreams are pretty common for people abstaining from drugs. One friend of mine who quit all drugs had these dreams where he would accidently take drugs and then go all "noooooo!" once he realized what he did. Hell, last night a good friend of mine who's abstaining from meat told me he had this dream where he was all tied up and forced to eat meat, despite not wanting to do that at all cost. All kinds of weird stuff rises from subconsciousness during dreams.

 

[WalterODim]

Hello all!

Im 25, and have smoked approx. an 1/8 of high class stuff daily for the better part of 5 years.
One week in and the temptations are already getting smaller. Never been much of a drinker, so i haven't replaced my habit with any other type of drugs.
Things I have noticed ---

Dreams are VERY vivd.
Exercise helps wear me down at nights after work
Weekends are tougher than weekdays (more free time to myself)
Little to no interest in video games (sucks because ME3 is out)
I read a great deal more now...i guess its the stimulation of the brain that helps

Im taking a break for a DT that i will have to pass to get a new job.
I don't know when the spot will be opening up actually, but am refraining from MJ until after ive taken it, could be another month, could be 4 months.
Hardest part for me has been the knowledge that ill have 2 weeks notice before they need the urine sample, and with my metabolism being scary high, i know i can clean up in that 2 week period (approx).
I certainly am enjoying watching my bank account get larger, and catching up on things that ive neglected in my high bouts.

Sorry for the long first post, but now i feel as if we have been properly introduced

 

[Jibult]

Im 25, and have smoked approx. an 1/8 of high class stuff daily for the better part of 5 years.
One week in and the temptations are already getting smaller.

Damn, dude, that's a heavy habit you're dropping.

Welcome to BL, brutha, for me all the weed talk around here keeps my urge to smoke and get fucked up at bay. I hope it does the same for you.

 

[powdakilla]

Congratulations on a week! That is really the hardest part, now don't get complacent, That is what fucked me over so many times. At the end of the day, a week sober is nothing, so don't reward yourself with a hit yet because of how well you've done (that is how my brain worked at least). You know what got me off the pot? Having to pass a drug test to land a 100 K a year job, that I only work 2 weeks out of the month to do. Passing that test is such a tangible goal, when shit gets rough just keep that in your head, and keep coming to this thread. It was a huge help for me anyway, to know there were other people struggling, and that I wasn't alone in it.
I passed my test, it must have been six months now, and I have smoked a few times since then, and you know what, given enough time off, you might just find that getting stoned isn't all that you remember it to be (especially after being a chronic), you will be to fucked up to function after a month off, I couldn't go outside for a bag of chips even, or socialize the same way with friends, and most of all, I couldn't ski or ride my bike stoned like I used to, and that was a real turn off for me. Good luck!

 

[jecra]

Congratulations on a week! That is really the hardest part, now don't get complacent, That is what fucked me over so many times. At the end of the day, a week sober is nothing, so don't reward yourself with a hit yet because of how well you've done (that is how my brain worked at least). You know what got me off the pot? Having to pass a drug test to land a 100 K a year job, that I only work 2 weeks out of the month to do. Passing that test is such a tangible goal, when shit gets rough just keep that in your head, and keep coming to this thread. It was a huge help for me anyway, to know there were other people struggling, and that I wasn't alone in it.
I passed my test, it must have been six months now, and I have smoked a few times since then, and you know what, given enough time off, you might just find that getting stoned isn't all that you remember it to be (especially after being a chronic), you will be to fucked up to function after a month off, I couldn't go outside for a bag of chips even, or socialize the same way with friends, and most of all, I couldn't ski or ride my bike stoned like I used to, and that was a real turn off for me. Good luck!

Interesting thing about riding the bike and skiing. Was it because you smoked too much or was your tolerance really that low? I'm quitting for a few weeks atm so I can pass a drug test so I was just wondering. This is quite an interesting thread to me.

 

[Jibult]

I'm betting it's a tolerance thing. That low tolerance will catch your ass completely off-guard when you finally do go back to smoking. Your mind wants to pick right back up where you left off, with top-notch bud at large quantities, but in a lot of cases your body/mind just won't be able to function high the way it did back when you were a 24/7 smoker.