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Random MSN Gibberings LXXXVIII: Possibly even some shitalin to jazz myself up

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@ Sam re thread stuff:
posters who were discussing the subject matter can determine whether it's sustained or serious and make their own decision to continue or opt out, like a number of them did. that's how to make ones feelings known. they aren't forced to take part. no harm done. different people have different debating styles, i don't like halos one bit because its counter productive and ultimately self indulgent, but as it's done very publicy, people can work that out for themselves and decide to engage or not.

but forcing that decision upon others comes to nothing positive. a number of people did want to continue and were fine with 'suffering' and dealing with the problems that occur from such flawed discourse. taking that decision away from them only creates a number of spin off problems, which are far more toxic than the debate was becoming.
those that dont want to take part, or disliked the direction can choose to not post & not return to the thread.

reported posts regarding racism/homophobia etc can be dealt with in the same way they normally are around the forum. and relevant posters warned as per forum guidelines

and if the number of reported posts is the benchmark for whether a thread gets closed or not, that's frankly bizarre.
I understand this place isn't a democracy, but at least the participants should of been given the chance to vote on its closure. if people take a lot of time and effort to think about and formulate their viewpoints and commit them to words, they deserve to be included equally in the decision.

it creates growing resentment to have something youve emotionally invested a little time and energy into participating, just taken away by what amounts to a parental decision for consenting adults who are free to make that decision themselves and can choose to opt out any time. it's paternalistic and overbearing. and as is evidenced by today's gibberings thread will only result in that discontent spreading.

a contained thread that some may find intolerable is easily ignored.
 
@ Sam re thread stuff:
posters who were discussing the subject matter can determine whether it's sustained or serious and make their own decision to continue or opt out, like a number of them did. that's how to make ones feelings known. they aren't forced to take part. no harm done. different people have different debating styles, i don't like halos one bit because its counter productive and ultimately self indulgent, but as it's done very publicy, people can work that out for themselves and decide to engage or not.

but forcing that decision upon others comes to nothing positive. a number of people did want to continue and were fine with 'suffering' and dealing with the problems that occur from such flawed discourse.

Fair enough, but what's to stop the people who want to continue a reasoned discussion from starting another thread, perhaps one with a bit more direction and structure and less focus on an individual member and their interpretation of Christian doctrine?
 
I understand what you are saying Marmz and I appreciate that there are people who wanted to continue the discussion - which was why the thread was reopened once. However as you say it was becoming toxic and it becomes increasingly difficult to justify keeping a thread like that open without resorting to serious censorship, which is far from ideal and not something I think we should be doing just to keep a thread open. I have had to defend EADD in the past and explain the difference between friendly banter/debate/arguing/abuse to people outside the forum, and the underlying community and dynamic of EADD - tis a unique place, this, and a fine line is often walked, and it is not an easy thing to do or get right every time. None of the options were ideal at all, but the decision was made to close it and I support that decision. I know Yella well and am happy to discuss it with her, and I am sorry that people feel upset by the closure - and I do understand! I also still fully agree with the other mods that it was the right decision however.

Keeping emotionally-charged threads self-containted is hard at the best of times and in that case I think it would have been pretty much impossible..

I would happily see another thread started about religion if people want to discuss it properly, and as you say anything homophobic/racist would be dealt with in the manner it is across the rest of BL.

<3
 
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If your gonna start a thread about something as inflammatory as Religon your asking for some pretty fuked up shit .

It's like politics but worse .

So b4 u start summat like that it may be worth thinking " can i handle the potential aggro n static that that this subject will without a doubt envoke "

Thats all i got to say but i think it is valid .
 
whats with all the arguing,

Ahhh what a beauty of a day %) feels like summer
 
Summer! Can't wait, I live in the park. Festivals, freeparties, everyone is happy :D
 
Well, after a shitty day of shitty work, shitty BL business and feeling shitty with the flu, I'm going to head back to my shitty abode, possibly head out and try to ensure the evening's less shitty.

By way of cheering myself up I indulged in some Google action. Tonight I would like to have dinner with:
NSFW:
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Or:

NSFW:
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But unfortunately I had to tell both Rose and Joan that I'm all booked up. Broke their blackened hearts, so it did.
 
May I suggest some shitalin? ;)

Sorry you're feeling so crap Sammy. Bit of TLC is what you need, loud tunes and something tasty to eat perhaps? <3
 
I have some of the palest skin known to man. It's only my freckles that stop me from looking like a zombie.

Never noticed them .

That last pic you posted was scarily anemic looking haha!

I've had anemia a while back it's not common for blokes .

Well nasty i was incapacitated n had no idea why the symptoms felt like Hep C which i also contracted around the same time.

Bad days .

You've seen that pic of me the one with the "rennie" hat on well that was how i should look when i'm healthy .
Mind that was when i was in Portugal n living a crazy lifestyle but something about the food n the sunshine kept it all together.
 
Afternoon all, for some reason i've been in the best of moods all day! last night got a little wierd, ended up vomiting my guts out many times, couldn't even hold liquid down! but felt amazing throughout! haha
Anyone got ant tips to combat oxy induced nausea?
Answers on a postcard ;)
 
Never noticed them .

That last pic you posted was scarily anemic looking haha!

I've had anemia a while back it's not common for blokes .

Well nasty i was incapacitated n had no idea why the symptoms felt like Hep C which i also contracted around the same time.

Bad days .

You've seen that pic of me the one with the "rennie" hat on well that was how i should look when i'm healthy .
Mind that was when i was in Portugal n living a crazy lifestyle but something about the food n the sunshine kept it all together.

Hep C? Nasty. Did you get put on interferon? I worked with someone who was effectively 'cured' of it by that.

I can probably out pasty face anyone. Very anemic as a child, probably am now due to most of my calories coming from beer and wine...
 
You've seen that pic of me the one with the "rennie" hat on well that was how i should look when i'm healthy .
Mind that was when i was in Portugal n living a crazy lifestyle but something about the food n the sunshine kept it all together.

There's a lot to be said for that - no wonder rich people used to send their sick relatives to warmer countries for recovery. This climate fucks with your health long-term if you're not careful.

I've had the pleasure of anaemia too, a good few years back. I thought I had ME or summat at first.

Oxy induced nausea BCF? I always use weed, but ginger and essential lemon oil are both good for stopping any kind of nausea in its tracks.
 
Afternoon all, for some reason i've been in the best of moods all day! last night got a little wierd, ended up vomiting my guts out many times, couldn't even hold liquid down! but felt amazing throughout! haha
Anyone got ant tips to combat oxy induced nausea?
Answers on a postcard ;)

Antihistamines? First generation ones are best, promethazine (can be got OTC as Phenargen), diphenhydramine (Benadryl) etc.. or ginger, lemon'n'ginger tea always works a treat for me.

Mmmmm oxy <3

edit: ninja Sam!
 
Sorry you're feeling so crap Sammy. Bit of TLC is what you need, loud tunes and something tasty to eat perhaps? <3

Aye, definitely. In fact, I'm going to make a phone call and beg for a tasty meal now. With the aid of my best man-flu voice.
 
Antihistamines? First generation ones are best, promethazine (can be got OTC as Phenargen), diphenhydramine (Benadryl) etc.. or ginger, lemon'n'ginger tea always works a treat for me.

Mmmmm oxy <3

edit: ninja Sam!

Awesomeness, got a few packs of nytol so thats all good :) didnt get very itchy from the oxy, did 40mg snorted, wiped me right out!

I will have another little dabble tomorrow with the last 60mg i have, maybe i will separate it into 2 30mg doses, hash helped very slightly for the nausea but i was smoking bong after bong and then i would notice my mouth filling with saliva! puked bout 3 or 4 times in total but felt amazing all the time, didn't manage sleep till bout 4.30am and chain smoked bout 6 spliffs to myself whilst mrs bcf was passed out! lol
 
There's a lot to be said for that - no wonder rich people used to send their sick relatives to warmer countries for recovery. This climate fucks with your health long-term if you're not careful.

I've had the pleasure of anaemia too, a good few years back. I thought I had ME or summat at first.

Oxy induced nausea BCF? I always use weed, but ginger and essential lemon oil are both good for stopping any kind of nausea in its tracks.

Yeah Pernicious anaemia oh my life its nasty isn't it .

Yeah i did the Interferon treatment Jed. It worked n the side effects weren't as bad as folk had told me .
Many use that as an excuse not to start the treatment but it was effective for me luckily i caught it very early so i wasn't on the intereferon as long as they thought.

One of my better decisions .
 
Adds to the sedation and removes the itch too, win! Don't take more than the recommended dose though, getting delirious on antihistamines is no fun at all.

Do you eat or snort your oxy?

Brimz, really lucky you got that sorted out! <3
 
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