Why Widespread Panic?

alasdairm said:
sure. but that's irrelevant.

have you seen the space shuttle? a show with a capacity of less than 1000 people, filled to the max and everyone dancing can't compete with that... :)

alasdair
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Yo, this times 10000

TGhis thread's making me want to listen to widespread panic. Thank you OP.
 
Laika said:
I know of the Challenger I just didn't understand how it fit into this thread. And I still don't.
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space shuttle is to "a show with a capacity of less than 1000 people, filled to the max and everyone dancing" as "a show with a capacity of less than 1000 people, filled to the max and everyone dancing" is to the greek theatre.

:)

alasdair
 
i have seen some fucking epic phish shows in camden. the trashiest of the trash lot trash and straight dirty phish.

i love it there. it's paradise for a phish junkie. gas every where and horrible people, but epic shows.

CR, you're doin it wrong man. stop being a n00b.

coffeedrinker, good place to stream a ton of panic = www.panicstream.com
 
I will forever love wsp. Started getting into them while living in Colorado after Jerry Garcia died. I agree with the person who said the band died in 2002 with mike housers death. I'm not a big fan of studio albums, but everyday is one of the greatest.
 
i dig their studio albums, i even like ball.

space wrangler is my favorite. it's what got me into the band. i wore that tape out.
 
^Good video.
I just read a book about the Grateful Dead, and Widespread Panic became popular in light of the blowing up of the Dead scene with people who thought Touch of Grey was the best song evar or that crashing the gates to a concert was the coolest thing evar, either way the scene turned into bro-man's-land and actual music fans were forced to migrate, and that's a sensible answer to the OP's question IMO.

I really like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB-NmC-9XvM&feature=endscreen&NR=1
 
CoffeeDrinker said:
^Good video.
I just read a book about the Grateful Dead, and Widespread Panic became popular in light of the blowing up of the Dead scene with people who thought Touch of Grey was the best song evar or that crashing the gates to a concert was the coolest thing evar, either way the scene turned into bro-man's-land and actual music fans were forced to migrate, and that's a sensible answer to the OP's question IMO.

I really like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB-NmC-9XvM&feature=endscreen&NR=1
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I dont buy into these generalizations and you know I hate hippies. I have been to many phish, wsp, and even though I hate them Umphrees shows. I like the gratful dead but WSP is completely different imo. I prefer their mikey era studio albums; great melody, construction, and overall sound. The scene has possibly always been a bunch of burn outs doing balloons in the lot but the music stands for itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44g_XdtveEM
 
You don't buy into generalizations even as you make them? The balloon thing didn't get big until extremely late into the Dead scene and it wasn't the OG hippies that supported that sort of thing. I was unfortunately born into a family of druggies, and not hippies, so I got introduced to a giant balloon at my first big jam-band concert and assumed it was simply a given at the scene, but this book I read by a Dead head from the mid 80's who got introduced into the scene the classical way via acid and shrooms and looking down on the total burn-outs who couldn't stand up or speak after a concert and always drew the worst of the police and media attention. The hippies got preferential treatment in this book as an eclectic race of road warriors while the bros sucking on balloons were seen as belligerent leeches and party thrashers and gate crashing stinky bastards (and put into their rightful place by Keller Williams) who did nothing but put stress on Jerry Garcia's already fragile heart condition by being assholes. Obviously the reality is there were plenty shit-head hippies and plenty of harmless people who simply arrived to the party too late and just grabbed what was available, but they weren't always apart of the scene by any means.

I really have no love for Umphery's Mcgee btw, they're good musically, but it's like, who cares? idk, they've just always tried my nerves. I don't want my rock stars to be accountants. That was a realization I had while selling, and tripping on, acid at an Umphery's show and wishing I wasn't in a crowd of people who were showing off by counting the random time-signature changes that differentiated the otherwise monotonous music.

The Grateful Dead have encompassed a large portion of American music into their lexicon, including roots and southern music, so that's where I see the similarities with Widespread Panic. Not to mention the traveling aspect, which is no small thing. But I would certainly see more similarities with Allman Brothers and Little Feat than the Dead when it comes to Panic.
 
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great post coffee man

i had no clue you were educated on this kind of stuff

when i went to see dark star orchestra in ithaca back in november(200th show, yo) i grabbed a cup of coffee at 'gimme coffee' before the show and thought about you

ithaca might be my favorite city i've ever visited, being all lakes/wine region and rural, you've got cornell, and walking within city limits i feel safe
 
CoffeeDrinker said:
You don't buy into generalizations even as you make them? The balloon thing didn't get big until extremely late into the Dead scene and it wasn't the OG hippies that supported that sort of thing. I was unfortunately born into a family of druggies, and not hippies, so I got introduced to a giant balloon at my first big jam-band concert and assumed it was simply a given at the scene, but this book I read by a Dead head from the mid 80's who got introduced into the scene the classical way via acid and shrooms and looking down on the total burn-outs who couldn't stand up or speak after a concert and always drew the worst of the police and media attention. The hippies got preferential treatment in this book as an eclectic race of road warriors while the bros sucking on balloons were seen as belligerent leeches and party thrashers and gate crashing stinky bastards (and put into their rightful place by Keller Williams) who did nothing but put stress on Jerry Garcia's already fragile heart condition by being assholes. Obviously the reality is there were plenty shit-head hippies and plenty of harmless people who simply arrived to the party too late and just grabbed what was available, but they weren't always apart of the scene by any means.

I really have no love for Umphery's Mcgee btw, they're good musically, but it's like, who cares? idk, they've just always tried my nerves. I don't want my rock stars to be accountants. That was a realization I had while selling, and tripping on, acid at an Umphery's show and wishing I wasn't in a crowd of people who were showing off by counting the random time-signature changes that differentiated the otherwise monotonous music.

The Grateful Dead have encompassed a large portion of American music into their lexicon, including roots and southern music, so that's where I see the similarities with Widespread Panic. Not to mention the traveling aspect, which is no small thing. But I would certainly see more similarities with Allman Brothers and Little Feat than the Dead when it comes to Panic.
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definitely agree with it being more like the allmans. As a jam band fan the scene is something I can take or leave; the music and its content is all I care about.
100% agree on Umphrees they are great musicians but that doesnt mean you can write a good song and they have proven this time and time again.

How did keller put wookies in their place? That lizards song
 
Squareroot-Yeah. All of the people who were big fans of Umphery's at the show were the ones going like "1 2 3 4 5 6 7. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13. repeat" And I was thinking how lame that was. The band encouraged it. I like music to transcend the tangible, like the transition from chemistry to biology, if you catch my meaning, and there was simply nothing in it for me to grab onto. I like certain technical prog music just fine, but this just didn't impress me and struck me as a little stale or soulless. For me to like something it needed to have given me chills at one point in time. The accountant thing was a bad joke that I thought of while tripping, but the real reason why I didn't like them was the reason why I'd dislike any music. It's not even the counting thing that upset me, really, because I love listening to African folk music and other random things that aren't 4/4, but those feel natural and right and the music is soulful. Umphery's just didn't take off the ground for me.

China Rider, yeah Ithaca is such a beautiful and magical town. I have nothing but the best memories there. Going there was like a tropical oasis even when I was in the midst of the worst times in my life.

BTW, music is like the only thing I AM educated in. Literature to a lesser degree. I'm just a no-nothing asshole when I talk about anything else, but I do it anyway because I'm bored and healing from a variety of paralyzing ailments.
 
wood tour starts tonight in DC.

jimmy "too many notes" herring sounds much better with the band on acoustic. i expect great things from this tour.

jojo is playing an upright piano. should be pretty tight.

i got shut out of atlanta, and unfortunately, i'm just not even gonna fuck with getting a ticket unless something falls in my lap last minute. oh well.
 
what a horrible looking show to start this tour.

01/24/12 The Fillmore, Silver Spring

1: This Part Of Town > Worry, Fishing > St. Louis > Clinic Cynic > Wondering, Free Somehow, Genesis, Holden Oversoul

2: From The Cradle, Can't Get High, Gimme > Degenerate > Pilgrims > Travelin' Man > Saint Ex > Jam > Driving Song > Breathing Slow > City Of Dreams

E: None Of Us Are Free, May Your Glass Be Filled, Walkin' (For Your Love)
 
i do like the set up though.

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