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LOL, how amazing.

How elegant a little puzzle the mind gives us.

Learning to unlock its power is learning not to.

Learning to meditate is learning not to.



It seems that alcohol is ago a much more ego-dissolving drug than marijuana, ironically.
 
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90mg? dude.
liek roger said, i was propelled out of my own mind from 20mg, and the rare times i do it i try to stay around 17mg. though for me the main limiting factor is the body load which gets too much for me (and im not talking nausea, theres just oo much muscle tension building up).

heh, i hope jesus comes back with a good story from last night.... (heh, the irony eh). i wonder what he'll be dropping for his b day later in december
 
Man.. wow.. 90mg 2C-E? I think I'd blast off for about a year with that much 8o

Last night's trip was something else entirely. I took the 35mg 2C-E, then 20mg 4-AcO-DMT, finally followed by 40mg oral MXE about an hour in. Let's just say I never managed to snort any more 2C-E or MXE as the trip was way too intense at that point for me to get out of bed nevermind weigh up any doses.

It was my most visually stunning trip to date short of the time I took 75mg of 4-AcO-DMT, and extremely therapeutic, I went through all of my issues and found a little relief - maybe once I integrate the trip I'll find some solutions :)

Time to write up a report methinks :D <3

Edit: Fixed. I wrote sublingual for the MXE when I actually took it orally. My mistake.
 
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It's that time of year people are putting lights up on their houses (which I like), holiday blues are a go-go baby. Hopefully I'll get some more money to buy things to drown it out with soon, I'm out of booze as of this evening.

This year kind of sucks for me, I have exams right up to the 21st, but I have the 22nd and 23rd booked for snowboarding so that sort of makes up for it. And yeah, those core days like (23-27) I always spend loafing around with the family on opiates/benzos. They're all drinking but I'm only drinking a little bit. ;) It's funny, I called it out one year; we break more dishes in those few days than we do any other time of the year; everyone's drunk :D

^ My last DXM trip was a bit of a disappointment as well, although I don't think I'd undo it if I could. At first it was actually really euphoric, but then I just started thinking about all the negative things in my life and it became darker and just really weird...

I have yet to have a 300mg DXM trip that didn't show me something. They all seem to show something in the end. Of course the body load can suck. I find MXE to be very DXM-like but with much less (if any) body load.

O.K., O.K., that was pretty cynical. I know not everyone's like that. I actually really love christmas lights, especially the multicolored ones... I could stare at those all day! Oooohh... =D

Christmas IMO is scheduled perfectly because it co-insides with the darkest (shortness of days, weak sunlight), most depressing part of the year. In the years after I was 13 and before my sister had her own kids christmas was pretty ho-hum, boring and pointless. Christmas is all for kids. When kids are in the picture it's much more entertaining and fun, even if it sometimes takes you off your nod. ;)

it may be the most cold and serious psychedelic drug I've ever ingested.

Ditto; why I don't use it. I tried it twice. Once at 20 mg oral, the other at 12mg plugged. Both of them were hellish, especially the plugged one. It's such a powerful drug and I wasn't ready for what it wanted to do. For trips like that I'll stick with LSD or 4-AcO-DMT, 2C-E scares the shit out of me.

In all honesty I don't have much desire for trips like that though. For a deep phenethylamine trip 2C-T-E (2) is my drug of choice. For the last while I've been getting good benefits from non-hole dissociative trips and empathogens but I can't do the latter anymore, the crash/week after is too much to bear. I'm going to try MDAI over the break.

I also find I never get visuals from dissociatives. It's all mental. In a low dose, non-hole I'm very open to thoughts andconnections. When I do hole it's the same thing, but stronger and I'm not aware of my body. I never actually have visual/auditory hallucinations though.

I've always been flabbergasted on how a lot of you fellas can use psychedelics so frequently (especially strong 5-HT2a agonists), for me the trips are so powerful I can't bring my self to think about doing it again until I'm back to re-integration (actual time interval depends on many factors).

I don't know if you guys ever play around with home electrical stuff, but when you get hit with 120v, you tend to have a natural tendency to wait a bit before trying again (in that analogy you obviously unplug what it is you were working on). As a hypothetical situation I think it represents what I'm saying though.
 
Jesus needs to try ecstasy....
Srsly dig, i should be rollin in the next month...so should you.
Demand free mdma on account of the second coming
 
I agree Socks, it does surprise me how often and much I used to trip. This year though I've tripped a total of I think 7 times, at least with psychedelics, I've had a couple of MXE trips too since I don't find dissociative trips tend to need much reintegration (usually because much of the experience is forgotten).

Here's an experience report if anyone's curious: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...)-Experienced-Rainbows-and-Scottish-comedians
 
I find the bodyload from any 2C-E dose very euphoric and comfortable. Whereas anyone else I know hates the bodyload from it.
 
^ I tend to find it euphoric too. Sometimes when sitting/laying down it gets uncomfortable, but getting up and moving about always solves that. :D

Why am I always so famished the morning after a trip?
 
MXE really hits hard, when using it orally. 10 mg. and I fell it no doubt. Could it be that nasal ROA is much weaker than oral? this kinda feels like 25 mg insufflated but I'm not too sure

I got a unprovoked nosebleed today, so, no more snoring for me
 
I don't know if you guys ever play around with home electrical stuff, but when you get hit with 120v, you tend to have a natural tendency to wait a bit before trying again (in that analogy you obviously unplug what it is you were working on). As a hypothetical situation I think it represents what I'm saying though.

tbf, if you don't plug it or bomb 20 mg at once it might not hit you like 120 V.
 
MXE really hits hard, when using it orally. 10 mg. and I fell it no doubt. Could it be that nasal ROA is much weaker than oral? this kinda feels like 25 mg insufflated but I'm not too sure

I got a unprovoked nosebleed today, so, no more snoring for me

Everyone seems to agree nasal is weaker than oral/sublingual with MXE, everyone who's tried both at least. A friend of mine was using very high doses when using nasal, but is now happy with 20-30mg sublingual. YMMV but generally it seems that yes, oral/sublingual is a better ROA for this drug.
 
I've always been flabbergasted on how a lot of you fellas can use psychedelics so frequently (especially strong 5-HT2a agonists), for me the trips are so powerful I can't bring my self to think about doing it again until I'm back to re-integration (actual time interval depends on many factors).

Yeah, I agree. I haven't tripped on a true psychedelic (with the exception of DMT) in a few years. I've mainly just been using light doses of MDMA (and some 2C-B sporadically) to facilitate introspection regarding tangible aspects of my life. TBH I find very little use for the complete-ego-crucifixion-with-cosmic-fractal-lightballs-flying-at-you-from-space kinds of experiences these days... at this stage in my life I much prefer the 4-halo 2C's and (reasonable dosages of) MDMA.

I used to be all about taking massive doses of LSD and dissolving my mind into a sea of pulsing electricity, but its just too damn far out for me these days. I can't really handle mushrooms anymore either, although they've never been my favorite, they have that "vibrate into another dimension" quality that is so present in DMT, but it lasts hours instead of minutes. Nooo thanks. After you have so many experiences that are utterly incompatible with everyday life, you realize how exhausting the whole thing can be; extremely interesting, but utterly exhausting. My whole thing these days is concentrating on my actual life, instead of a few madly exotic regions of my mind that are essentially devoid of meaning except in a highly abstract sense.

Ah... psychedelics, such an odd path to go down. In retrospect, the ride has been mind-shatteringly interesting, but also kind of pointless... except of course for the intrinsic value of having experienced it all.

I think I'm going to go for a real immersive psychedelic trip over christmas break, though-- I'm thinking 4mg of DOM, followed by a few strong hits of LSD several hours later, after I've had a chance to relish the pure DOM experience for a bit. :)

factors). I don't know if you guys ever play around with home electrical stuff, but when you get hit with 120v, you tend to have a natural tendency to wait a bit before trying again

LOL, I got the shit shocked out of me in physics lab because I touched some circuit thingy (that's the technical description) that we had set up and were testing with a voltmeter. I literally just said "fuck this man, I'm going home" and turned in my lab with a bunch of data missing and wrote reason: got shocked, almost died. Of course, high voltage w/ low current won't kill you -- it will just make you wish you were dead. :D Seriously though, that was remarkably painful.
 
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But is it even possible that a drug can have a qualitative difference when taken by another ROA? I mean, something else than different onset, come-up, plateau, overall intensity etc.
 
DOM always sounded amazing to me. :)

Iprocin starting to kick in..

...feeeling good.. <3 :)
 
But is it even possible that a drug can have a qualitative difference when taken by another ROA? I mean, something else than different onset, come-up, plateau, overall intensity etc.

I think pharmacokinetic factors probably play a huge role in the qualitative nature of the experience-- especially with a pharmacologically promiscuous drug like MXE. IIRC the faster you increase the plasma concentration of the drug, the primary receptor targets will reach saturation at a faster rate, and receptors that the drug has lower affinity for will get hit quicker, and since there is physical coupling and cross-talk between most receptor types (especially 5-HT and NMDA/AMPA via the glutamatergic pyramidal cells), the way that the secondary messaging pathways are effected will differ based upon the rate at which the plasma concentration of the drug increases. If someone with some O.G. pharmacology knowledge wants to chime in that'd be cool, because I'm by no means a pharmacologist I just know a few tidbits here and there from medicinal chem. courses and random papers I've read etc.
 
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