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adderall for migraines ??

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Hi to all u bls I don't no if this is the rite place but I'm sure the mods wil put it where where it needs to b. Anyway I suffer from chronic daily headaches and migraines have dun for 8 yrs and Tryed just about everything to get sum relief.
While on the net today I came across a list of drugs use for preventative and onset of migraines and adderall was on the list with other add drugs . I have been tryin to find out more about it so I can take the info to my Dr but there's very little on the net about it .
Has anybody on bl heard of this or maybe no why it may help migraines ?? Any feedback wud b appreciated as I'm running out of options for pain relief thanks in advance for ur replys cheers
 
I would like to know where you heard this if you can post the link? As far as what I know I don't see any reason pointing to why they would help with migraines. I have suffered with them since I can remember, my doctor gave me Maxalt and it sometimes completely stops the headache if I catch it/take the medication at the time I can feel the onset of the migraine. I have also been in two car accidents due to poor judgment and getting in cars with idiot friends who had a license for less than 3 months, this has left me with cervical/lumbar injuries and i find the Adderall to actually make my muscle tighten up and spasm ...it can make your jaw clench leading to a headache....I don't know where you read that but if you have the link I would like to read up on it. Hope I was of some help!
 
Hi unfortunately I have been on a very long Road with these migraines and have tryed all the triptans I'm allergic to sumatriptan, maxalt never worked beta blockers,ssri's diet changes I drink at least 8 glasses of water per day as last resort botox injections,honesly I have had just about everything the drs can try.
Have just had a drug holiday because they thought I maybe having rebound headaches and have bee put back on morphine after three months and now looking for anything that may help that we have not Tryed . Ill put the links up about amphetamines and chronic pain hope they work thank u for ur feedback :)

www.helpforheadaches.com/articles/prev-med.htm

www.doctordeluca.com/library/pain/pain-amphetamines.htm
 
wouldnt amphs make a migraine worse cause of the increased BP and all that?
i get headaches when i coem down from amps real easy when normally i never get them...
 
Richie Rich said:
Hi to all u bls I don't no if this is the rite place but I'm sure the mods wil put it where where it needs to b. Anyway I suffer from chronic daily headaches and migraines have dun for 8 yrs and Tryed just about everything to get sum relief.
While on the net today I came across a list of drugs use for preventative and onset of migraines and adderall was on the list with other add drugs . I have been tryin to find out more about it so I can take the info to my Dr but there's very little on the net about it .
Has anybody on bl heard of this or maybe no why it may help migraines ?? Any feedback wud b appreciated as I'm running out of options for pain relief thanks in advance for ur replys cheers
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I suspect if there is very little info on the net thein it either doesn't really work or is a very new treatment and is still being looked into with clinical trials.

No one is entirely sure what helps migraines, so I have no idea why Adderall would help - my first thought is that some people think migraines are due to vasocnonstriction followed by vasodilation of bloodvessels, and Adderall is a vasoconstrictor so may help the latter stage, although there are a lot of stronger vasoconstrictors out there and that sounds far too simplistic an explanation to me (plus the vascular model may well be incorrect!)

If you could show me where you read the info that would be really useful, thanks :)

edit: duh, you already have. I'll take a look shortly :)
 
There's no real way of saying 'yes it'll work' or 'no it wont', since there are far too many variables to consider that you simply cant express here. Try it, see what happens, though personally I doubt it'd help - both from experience, and from stimulants causing constriction of blood vessels, which can worsen headaches.
I recommend trying some tryptamines - they have shown a LOT of potential in headache treatment (I think the most researched is cluster headaches, though I suspect it applies to all headache types). LSA in the form of HBWR or Morning Glory seeds is probably the easiest trypt to acquire.
 
Did the botox injections help you at all? My mother has been having them in her neck for a few years now, apparently they fill in the place where her missing cartilage should be so that her discs do not lean on each other pressing the nerve which for, in her case actually triggers and actual migraine. Do you have any actual injuries or are you just suffering with the migraines?
 
Thanku for al ur feed back. No I havn't had any injuries just lots of migraines three to four a week answer sum last up to 14 days that's about my limit then off to the hospital for treatment ..
Botox I had twice the first tym it did help a bit but unfortunately the second lot of injections did not I think its very hit and miss with Botox.I have alot of pain in my occitpital nerves which the Botox did seem to help with that but not a great deal.
I am trying to stay away from methadone which I have been on before for pain relief and the pain specialists like using it alot over here but I had awful side effects from it and went through hell to get off it but they still push it every tym I go into the clinic .
Ketamine has been mentioned and lidocaine infusions but I will need inpatient treatment for those and the waiting lists are very long so at this stage its oxy or morphine SR until they can get me in
Thanku for all ur ideas it is greatly received and as for amphetamines I will mention these to my Dr but with very little in the way of info I think he may say no thanks again
 
have you looked into non-drug alternatives? such as massage therapy or acupuncture?

With migraines a big part of the problem is simply that they are not well understood. the same treatment doesn't work for everyone. there's no magic combination which will cure you hands down.

I'd start consulting your doctor about more experimental treatments like ketamine, or tryptamines as someone mentioned, but also ask about massage therapy and acupuncture.

I know my doc recommended magnesium citrate as well but from what i read it just conjecture in how it affects headaches.
 
mgrady3 said:
have you looked into non-drug alternatives? such as massage therapy or acupuncture?

With migraines a big part of the problem is simply that they are not well understood. the same treatment doesn't work for everyone. there's no magic combination which will cure you hands down.

I'd start consulting your doctor about more experimental treatments like ketamine, or tryptamines as someone mentioned, but also ask about massage therapy and acupuncture.

I know my doc recommended magnesium citrate as well but from what i read it just conjecture in how it affects headaches.
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Hi yes I've Tryed magnesium in high doses and alternate treatments such as massage and acupuncture ,Chinese therapists bowen technique ,hypno therapists , chiropractors ,psycho therapists lol the list go's on u name it I've pretty much had it. But Thanku tho ur ideas are greatly appreciated :-)
I'm heading back to the drs Monday so I will ask him about when I'm likely to go in to hospital and hope its not to long thanks for al ur support again cheers
 
good lord dont take adderral for a migraine. that is quite possibly the last thing i would want in my system when im already puking and feeling like i have a screwdriver jammed into my left eye. as others have stated, i dont think there is any truth behind this. the jaw clenching that it would cause would make a migraine way worse imo. plus when you have a bad migraine all you want to do is sleep. it would suck not being able to sleep it off. the triptans are probably the best thing ging right now....they are crazy expensive, but when your head is pounding like that, anything that takes the edge off is welcome.
 
'medicine cabinet' said:
good lord dont take adderral for a migraine. that is quite possibly the last thing i would want in my system when im already puking and feeling like i have a screwdriver jammed into my left eye. as others have stated, i dont think there is any truth behind this. the jaw clenching that it would cause would make a migraine way worse imo. plus when you have a bad migraine all you want to do is sleep. it would suck not being able to sleep it off. the triptans are probably the best thing ging right now....they are crazy expensive, but when your head is pounding like that, anything that takes the edge off is welcome.
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Hi as I have never taken stimulants b4 for anything all the feedback is invaluable to me by wat u all r saying I may skip them or wait till more evidence comes to light thanks again
 
I've suffered from migraines for years and have taken amphetamines (specifically dextroamphetamine) during them. They usually didn't make a difference, or made the migraine that much worse. The triptans are the only drugs that work for me, I've been in the ER with an orphenadrine+Demerol+toradol IV drip because of a migraine and it took the Demerol almost an hour to have any effect on the pain.

Interestingly enough, I don't get migraines for a long time after taking LSD (we're talking 4-6 months). LSD and psychedelic mushrooms apparently work as treatments for cluster headaches [Source], and migraines and cluster headaches are related. Considering that triptan family of drugs are 5-HT1A and 5-HT1B agonsts and psychedelics are agonists for a huge range of 5-HT receptors, it makes some sense, and LSD's chemical relative ergotamine has been used in the past, combined with caffeine, for migraine treatment.

The triptan drugs (sumatriptan, rizatriptan, etc) should not be mixed with amphetamines, in the interest of harm reduction. The triptans shouldn't be mixed with SSRIs, SNRIs or other antidepressants as well.

The PubMed article mentions sympathomimetic amines (amphetamine is a sympathomimetic amines) being used successfully in treatment of migraine.

Certainly worthy of more research. Research in the pharmaceutical industry is on-going.
 
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NeighborhoodThreat said:
I've suffered from migraines for years and have taken amphetamines (specifically dextroamphetamine) during them. They usually didn't make a difference, or made the migraine that much worse. The triptans are the only drugs that work for me, I've been in the ER with an orphenadrine+Demerol+toradol IV drip because of a migraine and it took the Demerol almost an hour to have any effect on the pain.

Interestingly enough, I don't get migraines for a long time after taking LSD (we're talking 4-6 months). LSD and psychedelic mushrooms apparently work as treatments for cluster headaches [Source], and migraines and cluster headaches are related. Considering that triptan family of drugs are 5-HT1A and 5-HT1B agonsts and psychedelics are agonists for a huge range of 5-HT receptors, it makes some sense, and LSD's chemical relative ergotamine has been used in the past, combined with caffeine, for migraine treatment.

The triptan drugs (sumatriptan, rizatriptan, etc) should not be mixed with amphetamines, in the interest of harm reduction. The triptans shouldn't be mixed with SSRIs, SNRIs or other antidepressants as well.

The PubMed article mentions sympathomimetic amines (amphetamine is a sympathomimetic amines) being used successfully in treatment of migraine.

Certainly worthy of more research. Research in the pharmaceutical industry is on-going.
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Very interesting, firstly why demerol ? Wud morphine not been more beneficial for u in the er?? Strange bunch the drs are at times. Anyway lsd that's not on there list lol but worthy of a go id say :)
As for sumatriptan it makes my throat swell not nice, rizatriptan never worked unfortunately, ergots sumtimes not always if I catch it early enough maybe, dhe the hospitals have never heard of over here we r a tad behind the times since it was developed in the 50s but anyway u have been very helpful thanks alot wish u well cheers
 
goodness; if only it were easier to just talk to you doctor and say look nothing else has worked, let's talk about LSD therapy... and have it actually work rather than them hiding behind ... "well its ilegal, end of story" I'm sure there are doctors that acknowledge the good that LSD can do but few and far between that will actually help you seek out treatment simply because its schedule 1.

it makes me wonder, a while back there was a new article in DitM about MDMA getting the ok for PTSD treatment in veterans, IIRC. Anyone think LSD will ever go a similar route? or will a similar drug be manufactured specifically for treatment of migraines that lacks LSD's magic.
 
It wud b a wonderful day to walk into my drs office and say "cud i have my lsd script this week " b a nice day my friend alas no its hard enough to get a script for morphine these days I think migraines r way under treated in todays world if they can't see it they don't treat it as a chronic illness anyways.
Nice thought tho . Thanks. Cheers :)
 
although others seem to disagree with this, i have been a migraine sufferer since the age of 10, and also a meth- and opiate addict. i take triptan drugs when i have them, but thought it worth mentioning that meth HAS occasionallty allowed me to make a previously incapacitating migraine manageable. i just take a tiny line, and the amphetamine somehow works to diminish the pain and stop the vomiting. i don't feel good, but at least far better than before the line. since migraines have something to do with the blood vessels in your brain expanding, i sorta thought that stimulants help since they would cause the blood vessels to contract. the same reasoning behind caffeine being an ingredient in many migraine meds.

just my two cents.
 
Vasoconstriction works to help headaches... and can cause headaches... it really depends on the person when it comes to that stuff.

Adderall can be used as a nasal decongestant.... (the best nasal decongestant in my opinion)

BUT, people won't get Adderall for runny noses, headaches, and such just because it can help with those problems...

Adderall is a schedule II drug in the USA; the most restricted prescription medication level. Refills aren't even allowed.
Schedule I is the only level higher... and it just means 100% illegal for everyone unless you get a government permit because you are some sort of chemist.

Adderall won't be prescribed for little things it can treat, probably because just one the psychological/physical negatives or side effects FAR outweigh the positives.

kinderwhore said:
although others seem to disagree with this, i have been a migraine sufferer since the age of 10, and also a meth- and opiate addict. i take triptan drugs when i have them, but thought it worth mentioning that meth HAS occasionallty allowed me to make a previously incapacitating migraine manageable. i just take a tiny line, and the amphetamine somehow works to diminish the pain and stop the vomiting. i don't feel good, but at least far better than before the line. since migraines have something to do with the blood vessels in your brain expanding, i sorta thought that stimulants help since they would cause the blood vessels to contract. the same reasoning behind caffeine being an ingredient in many migraine meds.

just my two cents.
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Despite the fact I haven't thrown up since I was in 5th grade (I was 10 years old)
and despite the fact I just started methamphetamine use (low dose in my opinion)

I do think Methamphetamine, and possibly other amphetamine types, have some sort of anti-emetic effect, migraine or not.
I notice I have zero sense of nausea on this haha

EDIT: If a mod sees this post, don't infract me broham, merge my posts if you must (In my brain-fog I SOMEHOW mixed up "edit post" with "post reply")
 
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