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.5 mg of Clonazolam (not pam) and some weed too. Don't take the Clam's often, but I've been sitting on them for so long so i figured i relax for the day lol
 
Erikmen said:
Idk how old you are and whether you depend on your parents or not. But it's your life no matter how specialist others might be. If you think you need a replacement therapy bacause of your back, you should be able to do what's best for you. People hardly quit drugs or keep on sober unless if this is what they want. You can't really "force" anyone to follow plans other than what you feel it's better for you. That's one of the reasons so many people don't follow through IME.
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I'm old enough to be on my own but I help my family out. Let's just say they are old without outing to much info out there and I like to be around before they aren't anymore. Ya I'm going to let them know the best is let me figure it out and don't keep pushing me cuz I will move and do it on my own which I know they love me being around when i am home from work. Thanks for the chat I appreciate it a lot.

I need to do some research on nerve pain which is what I have. It will be pretty much the rest my life due to me being young and dumb back in the day.

Lately I've been able to slowly drop my usage thanks to Valium lol gotta love that combo which I don't take very much at all usually half a 10mg a day really makes a difference. The high is very noticeable but don't do it more then 3 days in a row take a couple days off!

Today 50 mg oral methadone and 10 mg snorted! I'm getting like ten 30mg oxycodone soon and also getting more dones! Happy camper! Still two and half weeks up on the Arctic Ocean! It was 30 degrees today with sleet!

Joe Bean
 
OT: Woke up with a small panic attack like every morning, took 100mg trazadone last night (kinda want a script for that, makes me all dopey in a fun way) as well as a small amount of kratom with my etizolam.

Just dosed 2mg to stop my panic attack, and I honestly can't say I need to dose my sub right now. I'm going down to 1mg today. I feel good, positive even.

Question: think I should kick the sub at 0.5mg or 0.25mg? Obviously the latter would be ideal, but I'll probably lose those tiny pieces of film or miss the underside of my tongue. Maybe I could mix it in some water and add heat for a solution?
 
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OT: Woke up with a small panic attack like every morning, took 100mg trazadone last night (kinda want a script for that, makes me all dopey in a fun way) as well as a small amount of kratom with my etizolam.

Just dosed 2mg to stop my panic attack, and I honestly can't say I need to dose my sub right now. I'm going down to 1mg today. I feel good, positive even.

Question: think I should kick the sub at 0.5mg or 0.25mg? Obviously the latter would be ideal, but I'll probably lose those tiny pieces of film or miss the underside of my tongue. Maybe I could mix it in some water and add heat for a solution?
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I think even ,25 would be rough to CT as I've CT even lower on subs. You can cut them to almost microscopic size...and place under tounge in the mirror or with tweezers.
 
LucidSDreamr said:
I think even ,25 would be rough to CT as I've CT even lower on subs. You can cut them to almost microscopic size...and place under tounge in the mirror or with tweezers.
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I could add some Kratom to the equation. Jump off at 0.25 and use Kratom for any discomfort? That's what you did right? Just inferring from your posts.
 
Codeine then more codeine then more codeine. Same as yesterday. Was going to be motivated today but then arguments happened again. Much better now.
 
devilsgospel said:
I could add some Kratom to the equation. Jump off at 0.25 and use Kratom for any discomfort? That's what you did right? Just inferring from your posts.
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Oh no I just jump around these days because I use subs to get fucked up off when I want a good nod.

This was back years ago when I was an IV user of opiates and heroin, didn't know about kratom back then.

The first time i quit during my IV days was with subs, it sucked.

The next time i quite, I had mylan fent patches (the ones you can cut and still wear). I tapered down on subs, then tapered down with the fent for about two weeks using smaller and smaller patches. Then i jumped off the fent at about 1 mcg/hr sized patch and did 3 meo pcp when i went cold turkey (helps immensley) This was far easier than coming off subs.. I would suggest that with you because had the fent been in dope form and not time release patches it wouldn't have worked.

Then i discovered kratom and loved it after 6 months of being clean, and i managed to not get addicted for a while but when my back pain came back then i started taking kratom heavily everyday.

your idea might work though, as kratom is definitely less of a drug than subs. I would say about 4 g of kratom is equal to around 0.1 mg or less even of suboxone in terms of "wellness" power...except the kratom doesn't last as long of course. I base this on the fact that when i'm taking 4 g kratom doses about twice a day...when i take even a .1 or .2 of subs i feel amazing compared to the kratom
 
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LucidSDreamr said:
Oh no I just jump around these days because I use subs to get fucked up off when I want a good nod.

This was back years ago when I was an IV user of opiates and heroin, didn't know about kratom back then.

The first time i quit during my IV days was with subs, it sucked.

The next time i quite, I had mylan fent patches (the ones you can cut and still wear). I tapered down on subs, then tapered down with the fent for about two weeks using smaller and smaller patches. Then i jumped off the fent at about 1 mcg/hr sized patch and did 3 meo pcp when i went cold turkey (helps immensley) This was far easier than coming off subs.. I would suggest that with you because had the fent been in dope form and not time release patches it wouldn't have worked.

Then i discovered kratom and loved it after 6 months of being clean, and i managed to not get addicted for a while but when my back pain came back then i started taking kratom heavily everyday.

your idea might work though, as kratom is definitely less of a drug than subs. I would say about 4 g of kratom is equal to around 0.1 mg or less even of suboxone in terms of "wellness" power...except the kratom doesn't last as long of course. I base this on the fact that when i'm taking 4 g kratom doses about twice a day...when i take even a .1 or .2 of subs i feel amazing compared to the kratom
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Good that you mention 3meo, I have a G of it at home that my dumb ass should be utilizing. What dose do you recommend? I usually do threshold. You're my doctor now by the way lmao.

OT: 4mg etizolam (fuck tapering subs I feel like shit), 3g Kratom, 1mg sub, and some diclazepam blotter I got ages ago that may or may not actually have drugs on it. Gonna dose 100mg trazadone before I try to sleep.
 
Sorry to double post, I tried the desktop thing and I just got a white screen.

Just wanted to add, LSD, that's a very interesting taper story. You're very inventive with your drug usage I must say lol. Thanks for the help man, another awesome member of this community.
 
I would say dose slightly above threshold with the 3meo. 3meo and MXE (works best I think) have the Dopamine and serotonin reuptake activity that In my guess is what is responsible for the attenuation of opioid withdrawal. And when it hits you will at first feel more anxiety, but whenever the high levels out and whatever else happens pharmacology wise happens, you will feel better.

I actually think DXM is the best of all dissociatives for this purpose (very strong serotonin reuptake action), the high is dirtier though of course so you have to weight that into the mix though.

I have no idea how benzo addiction factors in.

I would try 100 mg of dxm and don't take any additional drugs util you've given it a good 2 hours to make the dxm make you feel better.
 
Smoking shatter out my vape pen someone gifted me on saturday for free :)

Going to take a kpin and knock the fuck out. Have to wake up around eleven at least.... (my day off from my ft job but work 4 to 10p at my pt job) to go running again with a coworker. Last night we went to the gym and did legs. Squats. Blah blah blah.

Then he told me he wants to try acid one day lol
 
Kratom and amphetamines, about to take more. I woke up this morning and saw a text message I really really didn't want to see, it's too complicated to elaborate but it involves a girl and her fucking boyfriend lol.
Anyway for some reason seen this first thing in the morning really messed up the schedule I had planned for today so fuck it I'm going to do what I want and get high like the addict I am.

Edit: Feeling pretty good so far on amps, kratom, a bit of alprazolam and a spliff. But I'm also going to take a brake from amps.
 
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Nothing yet. Having gone a week C/T off my methadone really decreased my tolerance. When I take my full 140 I'm high as a kite for 24 hours. I guess I'll open up a capsule later and take 1 x whole capsule & 1x like half of the contents. Cause today, unlike yesterday (fortunately) I gotta go do some stuff and I can't be as fucked up as I was yesterday for that lol. :)

Hope the other folks in w/d are doing ok.

@devil; yeah 3-MeO-PCP can really help provide relief. even moreso when you've been off your DoC for a while like you have by now. Keep up the good work! ;)
 
So this combo of Valium and methadone is pretty awesome at least I feel kinda high in a way I'm like fucking today is awesome and I love life! I'm also starting this new health crazy thing called Thrive! Anyone heard about it ? It mixes well with drugs as far as giving energy especially since I have no energy when I'm on methadone unless I have to work but now it's like I'm full of energy and I focus on everything one task to the next bam bam bam!

50 mg methadone oral
20 mg methadone snorted
10 mg Valium
Thrive
Pepsis all day and h2o

Everyone have a great day!

Ps where is methacodone? Hope he's ok! Also anyone in WD hope you are feeling better too I know how that is im sure we all know how that is :( best of luck!

Joe bean
 
LucidSDreamr said:
I would say dose slightly above threshold with the 3meo. 3meo and MXE (works best I think) have the Dopamine and serotonin reuptake activity that In my guess is what is responsible for the attenuation of opioid withdrawal. And when it hits you will at first feel more anxiety, but whenever the high levels out and whatever else happens pharmacology wise happens, you will feel better.

I actually think DXM is the best of all dissociatives for this purpose (very strong serotonin reuptake action), the high is dirtier though of course so you have to weight that into the mix though.

I have no idea how benzo addiction factors in.

I would try 100 mg of dxm and don't take any additional drugs util you've given it a good 2 hours to make the dxm make you feel better.
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I'm gonna try for 6mg of the 3meo, DXM could work too, but yeah it feels weird. I have more experience with it though (and really like the trip lol). 3meo is still mostly uncharted waters for me, but I love dissos and I know I could deal with it properly. I'll have both handy.

Reintroduced Kratom into the mix and it was a good idea. As for the benzos though I'm lost as well. Just gonna have to do that the hard way. Right now I'm considering a slight increase to 2mg 2x a day in order to soften the sub taper. I wanted to dive headfirst into tapering both substances, but that's a little unrealistic. For me at least.

Thanks again for the info, that's probably my last question. Also thanks P2C and Joe, you guys are great :)

OT: nothing atm, woke up earlier than expected. Gonna dose in about an hour.
 
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