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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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@robe11: agreed and i don't think anyone could have said it better. it's happened to quiet a few people here and in the past as well as some people i know irl. i think the medical field is taking this into consideration and are making changes albeit slowly. i hope in the future they can more effectively diagnose this and take better steps towards getting people the help they need.

sorry this was done to you. hang in there.

@zack365: why did you cry?
 
@zack365: sometimes it's an effect/symptom to randomly cry, it's like getting rid of stress.

mostly though since the zombie phase and anhedonia kick in we can't cry, like for real cry.

when you are emotionally motivated and cry it's a very good sign in the healing process, like what you just experienced.
 
Day 104

I finally, finally had a very close to what I can call a normal night of sleep and I even dreamed. I am around 97-98% recovered and that's a good feeling. The better I feel and the more I understand the destructive nature of Invega Sustenna. Lucky I had only two low doses btw. I'm glad to see Steph78's nightmare is over. 10 months is a long time compared to my three months and a half to four months recovery. My empathy goes out to all of you. No one ever mentionned this but I felt like during the process and especially during the depression phase it would have been near to impossible for me to fall in love. I don't want to sound awkward or anything but it does make you feel less emotionnally involved when you interact with others so, less emotions, more anxiety, depression and irritability.

Plus, I didn't necessarily want to add my point of view but I don't think HateInvega deserves to be banned, in my opinion he wasn't being really sexist or trying to insult anyone. Just my personal opinion though.
 
@zack365: well said about your progress. yes it is extremely difficult for us to connect emotionally with others while suffering and anhedonia is happening. even more so when we are struggling with hard thoughts and disruptive emotions from the comedown part. hope is part of love and both in one way are temporarily removed from us. you see this very clearly now. always darkest before the dawn.

HateInvega wasn't trying to do much of anything imho. a fear a lot of people with mental illness have is will their symptoms return after they are healed. i'm not part of psychiatry but it has been proven that once we do heal our symptoms return. it is a scary thought while healing but i look at it as something that is much better than dealing with this trial. i know some people have very acute symptoms or illness and that is what is hard during the transition back into being poison free. it is better they get back to a place of homeo stasis again so they can work at managing their symptoms again and living their life. it has been said that anything is better than dealing with the poison.

HateInvega is not the first one here who has lost it during the last of the healing process due to his illness. whether he was intentionally trying to insult anyone or not he was doing so. that is not conducive to the healing for everyone else. i agree he wasn't being sexist but he wasn't being mindful to everyone else here either and inferring a lot without knowing much of anything at all about the people he focused upon. i wont reveal what has been said to me about him in PM's by other people in this thread but he was definitely crossing more than one line. when i asked people to support Steph78 it wasn't to say support her in her allegation of him being sexist. it was asking for you all to pull together and give her your advice, guidance and emotional support to make this last part as easy as possible on her. or even simply share your story about why anyone got on the injection, maybe even help distracting her so she wouldn't be so focused on him.

the options are limited as to what mods and admins can do here. they are not psychiatrist, they are not law enforcement or government of any kind, they are not his parents or close to him, they have their own set of rules they have to abide by in order to preserve this site (which we are only one thread of) and also cannot tell anyone what to do. HateInvega broke the rules by attacking people and causing a lot of disruption which isn't being mindful of others situation here. bottom line he decided to take his grievances out on a few here when all have a much worse situation at hand and it made being here uncomfortable to say the least. this thread is for healing from invega/xeplion through support, understanding and trying things, not turning it into a rodeo of hate and chaos.

i don't pretend to know what the mods and admins think on what the reasons were but they made what they thought was the best decision (considering the limited options they had) and especially considering the nature of what we go through while on the poison. i agree another ban for a longer period of time would be more ideal but i also think this option is for the best as well. don't think of this as throwing the baby out with the bath water. life is not always pretty and easy, sometimes we have to take the bad with the good in this life.

feel free to talk about it amongst each other for a short time, more than that might be detrimental to the healing process and make us seem ungrateful. at the top of the page is the mental health forums guideline link and also a link for the BLUA's of this site. feel free to read them and come up with your own idea based on what is laid out of what is a fair decision to be made in this scenario. it might be a good thought exercise during a part of the trial where anyone's thinking is starting to work again.
 
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4th night in a row and all the good things about sleep keep happening.

also for the last 4 days my emotions have been staying on a good level. instead of emotions being good one day and then weak or numb the next.

for all of those who believe in an alternate path: energy and other aspects have been growing stronger as well. soul is less tormented lately.

my concentration is much better. i still have to rewind streaming t.v. 3 times a day because i miss something even though i'm putting effort into focusing on it but in a few days hopefully this will finish fine tuning.

still shaving slivers off that last %1. still adjusting for atrophy from long term healing. healed when i'm healed.

what is the first thing you would want to do when you are healed?
 
invegauser said:
@hoffsteader: how did the appointment go today?
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It went well, thanks for asking. I just told him I wasn't comfortable with the side effects and left it at that. He is concerned that I'll start to go downhill around the 2 month mark. I told him I feel stable now and think I will be fine. He didn't argue too much with me and said he can't force me to take it.

However, if they notice that I do go downhill, he told me they can have me hospitalized and then forced to take the injection again. I really don't want to be court ordered but that's the risk that I have now if ever things don't go as well as planned. He didn't really say it as a threat but just wanted to make sure I understood the risks involved.

So now I am officially Invega free WOOOHOOO feeling really happy about that. I know it will still be a while before it is out of my system. That's the second medication I quit now I'm down just to my daily Effexor which I don't plan on quitting for now.
 
Invegauser, thanks for asking. Going back to college, friends, dates, working out, sports, family. I'm looking forward to having new ideas and ambitions.
 
Hellohihey2 said:
@specified i have heard Welbutrin can help restore libido to functional when theres a medication induced erectile or libido issue
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I found it blocks meth so it's a no win situation. it's either one or the other. I think i'll stick with Wellbutrin a few days and see if theirs any improvement.
 
Can someone help with Libido?
I'm fucked i'm doomed I can't do anything
Nothing?
Anything?
what's the point?
Fucking antipsychotics
What about Wellbutrin? If I stop taking meth will Wellbutrin work?
How am I meant to make love to my Girlfriend?
She warned me she's going to leave me if I don't sort out my Libido issues.
Don't get her wrong, she's a nice girl and all but put yourself in her shoes, if she wasn't getting sex it would be frustrating and it is for both of us.
Also, If Wellbutrin works on Dopamine then I don't see how it would work seeing as Antipsychotics block Dopamine.
I could also suffer a Seizure since i'm Seizure prone.
What do I do?
I need Libido.
 
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@specified, i know how ur feeling. The worst is trying to cope with the deficits of antipsychotics and watching whats left of ur life still wither away in jeopardy. In my experience welbutrin helped my medication induced sexual dysfunction but only to the point that i could get it up and stuff, it didnt make sex super pleasurable. In our situation its best to approach it from a lot of angles. If i was literally u id stop the meth, then id get prescribed cialis or viagra, and also take L-Arginine (helps with nitric oxide and getting hard and also feelig horny- something about invega blocks nitric oxide release which is needed for engaging in sexual activities/blood flow and shit i think), zinc, and maybe L-tyrosine. The l-tyrosine and l-arginine will give u a dopamine rush that will be a little like a stimulant. Also if ur not prone to psychosis smoke some weed before having sex, it can help temporarily reverse the blockage of dopamine receptors from the invega long enough for u to have a window to be horny and actually achieve a rewarding orgasm. For example if i want to have a pleasurable orgasm i work out and shower, take l-arganine (1000mg) zinc and L-tyrosine (750mg) together. Then i also smoke a hit or two of weed and then go look at porn. Finally 10-11 months off of this poison and im able to have an orgasm that i look forward to- but keep in mind i have to take all those things leading up to it. Ignore me if this is tmi but it sucks so i thought id share what works. How long since ur last shot again?
 
@invegauser, im so fucking jealous ur on a good streak of sleep. I now have to take upwards of 20mg of melatonin and maybe 20-50mg cbd oil to sleep like i used to pre invega. I know it will come but its like fuckkk, its coming up on the holiday season and im still affected by this, when last year i had just gotten off the shot.. id like to inquire about ur tits tho (lmao)... do u have em? Have u lost em? When where and how did they subside (if they did?

Im at that point where im just staring at myself in the mirror looking at skin and stuff that just isnt the same anymore... and im still in my 20s so wtf u know?
 
Hellohihey2 said:
@specified, i know how ur feeling. The worst is trying to cope with the deficits of antipsychotics and watching whats left of ur life still wither away in jeopardy. In my experience welbutrin helped my medication induced sexual dysfunction but only to the point that i could get it up and stuff, it didnt make sex super pleasurable. In our situation its best to approach it from a lot of angles. If i was literally u id stop the meth, then id get prescribed cialis or viagra, and also take L-Arginine (helps with nitric oxide and getting hard and also feelig horny- something about invega blocks nitric oxide release which is needed for engaging in sexual activities/blood flow and shit i think), zinc, and maybe L-tyrosine. The l-tyrosine and l-arginine will give u a dopamine rush that will be a little like a stimulant. Also if ur not prone to psychosis smoke some weed before having sex, it can help temporarily reverse the blockage of dopamine receptors from the invega long enough for u to have a window to be horny and actually achieve a rewarding orgasm. For example if i want to have a pleasurable orgasm i work out and shower, take l-arganine (1000mg) zinc and L-tyrosine (750mg) together. Then i also smoke a hit or two of weed and then go look at porn. Finally 10-11 months off of this poison and im able to have an orgasm that i look forward to- but keep in mind i have to take all those things leading up to it. Ignore me if this is tmi but it sucks so i thought id share what works. How long since ur last shot again?
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Why do I need the Viagra if I can get it up with Wellbutrin?
I'm already taking four supplements so I guess L-tyrosine and L-Arginine won't hurt but I can't see them making a difference.
But If I can get it up with Wellbutrin but I have no Libido then what's the point?
I'm left with a hard on but don't have any desire for sex.
My last shot was four months ago but i'm still on forced injections of Zuclopenthixol every two weeks.
 
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Guys I need to go back to college in four months and I have memory problems and akathisia. What should I do? Please tell me that some people here had memory problems and recovered too. It?s the biggest road block to me atm because my anhedonia is not very serious but I?m so worried about my memory problems being permanent.
 
after almost 22 month no happy vivid feelings came back. Myself felt I not even in my dreams, only one time for some secunds, when I saw, that my baby was ok. But it was only a dream.
 
shadypenguin, I'm 105 days off and my memory is getting better everyday. I believe we'll recover completely and even memory problems will go away.
 
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