Edit: I updated my post. IV TIAN BAD = sent me to the E.R. in 3 weeks w/ 2 different complications. Had done I've drugs 8 years w/o a complication. IV TIAN BAD, no matter which way you prepare it, even dilluting down the solution and using a huge 5 cc rig to negate the basic ph, the polarity's still going to be bad.
I can confirm that Tianeptine (sodium, the common powder) has fully quelled my 1 1/2 year 10 grams a dayish kratom habit w/d symptoms. I also am an I.V. drug user and know the only safe way to I.V. tianeptine is to not go over 93 mg's per 1 cc, or else your solution becomes to viscous (I know polarities and isotonics are involved in its solulation, and if you try and make too strong a concentration it does indeed become a) glue like b) caustic to veins. It does not hurt to shoot but it is definitely for people w/ 5+ years I.V. experience because it's not one you want to miss. Ever. Reports of necrosis and advanced complications are mainly linked w/ silica gel in stablon tablets. That being said this shit will screw up your veins, and if not for the fact that I already had serious vein damage anyway, I wouldn't have gone for it.
The upside: Tolerance doesn't build that fast, at least coming from a low opiod habit like the kratom one I described. It's something you can binge / use to quiet something else for about a week max. And when 2-3 cc's worth of solution are I.V'd correctly it does induce a dilaudid like rush. And that's in someone who can fire 2 8 mgs dil's with no tolerance to say of (except for a decade of natural/mental tolerance build up/receptor damage) and not feel as high from 16 mgs IV dilaudid than i would 200 mgs Tianept. But it has a slightly, just ever so slightly "different" rush and feel than Dil. Essentially for me it was like taking a fresh drug in its own class I had never been exposed to. Although I know more about the extreme side of it's use because I'm pretty sure I was I'v'ing the first day. I could see how for someone not on the other side of quitting, someone early in their addiction, could get a hold of this and really fuck their shit up. Even abusing it orally would be unwise. Think like those crazy phenibut habits. Well the reason you find reports of people abusing tianept. like me is because for us, it seems to work, like every time. I've mixed it w/ coke and found it be amazing, basically a cheap ghetto speed ball if you will (w/ one half being legal and cheap). I mean, I'm a guy whos had serious heroin habits/ binges, I could get higher for 50 cents worth of tianept than 50 dollars of my citys street dope. But it's a novelty thing in those doses, not a long term replacement / subsistute.
Sub + Tian. I took a low dose of my one 8 mg sub im using for the detox from kratom/ tianept. about 3 days ago i took 2-3 mgs of sub/nalax (btw people in case u didnt already know nalax is non active, look it up), this is like 2 days into my tianept switch from Kratom. No interference no percepitated w/d. that being said i hadn't taken any sub in weeks and weeks so I would not use that report as evidence the combo is "ok".
Also as people say, potential for a terrible large habit from say, going through more than 10 grams in 2 weeks would just get expontially worse. The short Half life means frequent re-dosing, IV coke like pin pricking, but you're clear headed enough to not hurt yourself like IV coke. I can update to let everyone know what happens after a roughly 12-16 day 5 gram binge.
UPDATE: Tian IV trashes your vein no matter which way you do it. 2-3 weeks and I had cellulitis and a supificial bloodclot. First drug to send me to the E.r. and it did in 3 weeks. again IV TIAN BAD.
If anyone is considering IV'ng this. AND I CANT TALK YOU OUT OF IT, even after reading the sentences above this, send me a pm and I will send very important, explicit directions, because I think I've got it down on multiple fronts as far as HR. (still harmful as fuck, but pm me if you want HR, HR is HR, all HR is good.)
