Having tried Heroin and honestly not finding anything uniquely addictive about it as compared to most other opioids I've tried I wouldn't be alarmed or against someone I knew personally trying Heroin if they're already an opioid user and know what they're doing.
However, that said, there's a huge difference between trying an opioid, and trying an opioid IV, and for a lot of people, "Trying Heroin" inherently means "Trying Heroin IV" - so if you're reading this post and thinking of making Heroin your first IV drug, or making anything your first IV drug for that matter I'd highly recommend thinking over that again.
I've tried exactly 156 psychoactive substances to my knowledge at this date and time, including Heroin and other strong/rushy/addictive opioids like Morphine, U-47700, Butyr-Fentanyl, etc. I do not regret trying *any* of those 156 substances, and I do not regret much in my life in general. I'm one of those people who has made some bad decisions but has always learned a valuable lesson from them so usually never wanted to go back and change anything..
..BUT - the one exception to that is trying IV (intravenous injection), which started with opioids just as it does for most people. Trying Heroin, and trying most opioids in fact did little to change my life really, sometimes I overdid them and spent some time temporarily addicted, but I was always able to get off without trouble, and most opioids, Heroin included, didn't actually hold my attention well enough to garner up an addiction. Trying IV opioids though was a whole other world, IV really is a whole world above other routes of administration, in such a way that even when you're taking your first shot, you know you'll never be the same again.
My first time successfully IVing was with Buprenorphine, yes the stuff that's in Suboxone or Subutex and various other similar medications - a partial agonist that doesn't even provide a high to experienced users with high tolerances, but when I IVed it with my low tolerance at the time the rush was almost on par with the likes of Heroin itself. That's the problem with IV - the rush. When you start injecting into your veins, everything becomes about the rush, you're not trying to get the most out of the rest of the high, just that first initial rush, that might only last an hour, or maybe even only half an hour or a few minutes. Once that rush fades you could be nodding away feeling great but at the back of your mind all you're really thinking about is "Fuck the rush is gone, I could do with another shot", and before long that one shot has turned into almost a year of daily IVing, your main veins are all gone from being overused, and you're laying awake at night wishing you could turn the clock back somehow.
While most people who actually end up reading this thread before making their decision as to whether or not to try Heroin probably shouldn't try it in the first place, I know most people will not be convinced either way by what someone writes in here, and many of the people who read this thread initially thinking they'll never try it, will eventually go on to try it regardless. This post is mostly directed at those people, to ask you to please consider that if you are going to try it, to at least try snorting/smoking it rather than injecting it, or to ideally avoid it entirely. The same goes for other opioids, and other substances in general, while I don't even regret trying Heroin or most opioids themselves, when it comes to injecting, I don't know anyone who tried IV who doesn't regret it.
Finally, a post that is at least
half way sensible.
The fact of the matter is, opioid and opiate agonists are "INTERCHANGEABLE". They(Most mainstream opiate/opioid agonists) ALL attach to the same receptor sites in the brain. Granted, there are various opiate and opioid peptides and analogues that attach exclusively to specific and individual receptors. For example there's an opioid agonist in Salvia that attaches exclusively to the Kappa receptor, but, I'm talking about Mainstream pharmaceutical opiates/opioids, such as hydrocodone, morphine, oxycodone, etc.
The message I want to convey is, that there is no such thing as a Heroin addict. There are only opiate and opioid addicts. That's it. To the uninitiated(intolerant), a substantial dose of hydrocodone or oxycodone is going to be just as pleasurable psychologically and neurochemically as a dose of heroin(diamorphine). It is literally the equivalent of comparing 80 proof vodka to 40 proof scotch. To say that one is more addictive than the other would be completely ludicrous.
You lock a "heroin user" in a jail cell, and offer him just oxycodone, what, do you think he's gonna turn it down and say, "WAIT, I can't, I'm just a Heroin addict, I only use Heroin". Opioid/opiate addiction DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
When in comes to opiate/opioid addiction, you're addicted the VERY FIRST TIME YOU USE AN/ANY OPIATE/OPIOID. FACT. That's just the way it is, that's how the mind works, you don't have to like it, you don't have to agree with it, but the fact is, medical science and addiction research confirms it.
So instead of spouting and encouraging drug war propaganda by attacking and demonizing individual house/brad name substances, why not re entitle this sticky thread to, "should I use the hydrocone the Dentist prescribed me for my wisdom teeth removal operation"?.
Trust me, you'd potentially "save a LOT more souls that way".
If that is in fact the purpose of this thread, to save poor people from the dangerous monster illeagal street drugs.....OH NO! LOL
Chances are, most opiate addicts get there first dose from their wisdom teeth operation, I.e. their Doctors
So my basic and simplified message to those wanting to try Heroin......
If you've tried hydrocodone, oxycodone, you've already done heroin. The nuerochemical response/reaction and activity that heroin provides has already happened in your brain. You've already experienced it. If you haven't tried opioids/opaites, and you're intolerant and "uninitiated", so to speak, then the pleasure that you would receive from a substantial dose of hydrocodone or oxycodone is going to be on par psychologically to that of heroin.
All else, is just anti-drug/drug war propaganda bullshit.
Which by the way, I am really disappointed to see this kind of crap on Bluelight.
Such a pity.
Oh yeah, I do want to add, that IVing the drug does in fact, up the stakes, but, the basic principles and fundamentals that I've laid out still apply.
Just my 2.
