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GoGaine and Synthacaine

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IMO All 'caine products, or analogues sold as cocaine alternatives are shit. If you have the money, find some decent shit. There is a bit floating around this time of year, just need to know the right people I guess. All these RCs labelled and branded as this or that are just mixtures of crap that may or may not produce an effect you want.

Then again, if you have spare cash, search offshore, you may find something you like (just watch customs they are taking a LOT of shit lately).
 
marley said:
Importing 1 gram of MDPV labelled 99.9% Pure MDPV is different to importing 1 gram of Synthacaine. You, as a reasonable person, have no knowledge of the existence of the MDPV and therefore have no intent to import MDPV. Nor were you reckless in your actions because there is no information available about this product, ie, a reasonable person could not find this information (obviously after the Ecstasy Data results are published, there is a good chance you ARE reckless).
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Nice sentiment, but apparently incorrect. It may apply to some state based drug law, but certainly does not apply to imports. Most drugs are scheduled under the federal Criminal Code Act border controlled drugs schedules and their analogue clause [this has become the new customs schedule and is enforced by customs and AFP]. Here it clearly states:

300.5 Particular identity of drugs, plants and precursors

If, in a prosecution for an offence against this Part, it is necessary for the prosecution to prove that a person knew, or was reckless as to whether, a substance or plant was a controlled drug, controlled plant, controlled precursor, border controlled drug, border controlled plant or border controlled precursor, it is not necessary for the prosecution to prove that the person knew, or was reckless as to, the particular identity of the controlled drug, controlled plant, controlled precursor, border controlled drug, border controlled plant or border controlled precursor.

.... which essentially removes the reckless or lack of knowledge defence.
 
Just out of curiousity, did anyone ever find out what was in the Synthacaine that was getting around a couple of months ago.
cheers
 
The only one ive tried that was ever any good (and it sold like crazy from the local shop in my town until the police stopped it....People were lining up outside the head shop for it... was labeled "magic" ...and even that had a horrible side to it if you took too much. Effects were the stim and numbing.

i wish i knew the story of what happend to it. maybe it got re named "go caine or synthwotsit" ...who knows. thats the point with branded chemicals...its useless for us to know what in them, but 100x harder for the law to catch up with them. marketing genius & unethical buisness

still would love to know what was in it and why it vanished from everywhere though.
 
Some of the RTI's are supposed to be as close to cocaine as you can get but to synth these you have to start off with cocaine I think which makes it very hard to acquire
 
There are heaps of coke analouge drugs hell even lignocaine is a distant relative/chemical derivative. RTS-111 and some others are possibly better than coke. One of the RTS series coke analogue drugs (can't remember but I'm sure google or wiki can tell us all the chemical in question lol) is over 100 times stronger than coke with a very long half life. It would be very easy to OD yourself with a drug that potent, especially if the psychoactive component wore off before the cardio stimulation had ended and you thought "I'll just have 1 more line..." I think RTS-111 needs to have cocaine as a precursor but it may be some other chem so not 100% on that one. The gocaine and synthacaine I've tried overseas were shit IMO probably MPA mixed with MDAI or MDPV mixed with methylone or who knows what mixed with some random shit that was laying around. I tried the branded stuff and some that came in a small plastic bag with an RC sticker with the words "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" stamped across the product description.

RC's have become very vague or deliberatly misleading concerning the chemicals in the product through necessity. The longer it takes the government to ID shit the longer the producers/distributors can sell it before it gets banned. These two were shit but if there is new stuff that uses RTS-111 or similar that would no doubt be more enjoyable. Just watch what dose etc. you take as I outlined some of these products are fucking strong and probably sold cut to fuck to try and prevent OD's. So it could be a case of 2 lines fine and then a third that contained some unmixed raw drug your fucked! RTS-111 is not the drug I'm thinking of that is 100 x stronger, or more, than coke. BTW I think RTS-111 is more potent but not a massive difference can't remember of the top of my head, longer half life though.

I would never bother with Aussie coke because, as Jakeperson has pointed out, you are lucky to get 10-15% charlie and a bunch of shit cutters/drugs added to make you feel like you didn't just set a pile of cash on fire or use a heap of cash to wipe your ass when you got a dose of burning ass diarrhea. 20-25% would be almost pure to some people who have been hitting the 10-15% stuff thinking it was 80% pure columbian marching powder. If you want coke go overseas and try some in a country with less draconian drug laws or one closer to the source. Go on a holiday to Peru, Equador or Bolivia and see the native people use coca leaf in the traditional manner. Enjoy the traditional method of enjoying mother coca.

Coca has so many uses besides making cocaine and I think many people overlook this aspect of the plant. Much rather enjoy a coca pisco sour than snort a line of poor quality coke. The quality of coke produced in SA is poor these days because potasium permagnate is becoming difficult to obtain. Also there are no longer massive cartels who want repeat customers. Now there are small syndicates or left and right wing militia groups. Their aim is to make and sell as much coke as quick as possible to earn as much money as they can. The quality is not important because heaps of it gets busted and the US love coke, any coke, especially if you can turn it into crack!! Even better mix it with some meth and make crank. Crank is not that bad I guess, it has it's own unique merits.
 
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right, ok, i tried this against my best instinct, and initially liked it, it was like coke light in small doses and a g lasted a couple of days functioning socialising etc.

very morish, ended up on binge for couple weeks. on more then off. more and more, tollerance builds fast. i did 6g in 24hrs. feel like shitty mpa comdown with some agents.

im sure EPH is not in it, it hurts like fuck and rotted my nose off so i would be screaming the house down days ago.

who knows whats in it, but its come down is lingering and nasty like base amphetamine. awake, shitty.

the come down is not like coke, but it is focused like EPH. :S shrugs.

avoid. unless you have self control that can handle coke
 
These synthacaine threads are a bit useless. This is an old thread and chances are whatever you had wasn't the same active ingredient as most of the posts before you. I'm sure there are many synthacains out at the moment with completely different ingredients. I tried it about a year ago and tbh it did almost nothing for me. Sounds like you got something stronger but still be careful when you have no idea whats in your branded products. You never know what the chinese are coming out with
Have you tried A-PVP? I found the effects similar to MPA but much more moreish and worse comedown. Wouldn't surprise me if it was common in branded stimulant products


missimoo said:
right, ok, i tried this against my best instinct, and initially liked it, it was like coke light in small doses and a g lasted a couple of days functioning socialising etc.

very morish, ended up on binge for couple weeks. on more then off. more and more, tollerance builds fast. i did 6g in 24hrs. feel like shitty mpa comdown with some agents.

im sure EPH is not in it, it hurts like fuck and rotted my nose off so i would be screaming the house down days ago.

who knows whats in it, but its come down is lingering and nasty like base amphetamine. awake, shitty.

the come down is not like coke, but it is focused like EPH. :S shrugs.

avoid. unless you have self control that can handle coke
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These synthacaine threads are a bit useless.
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Yah. But they also represent the situation happening where random chemicals are being put in a bag and sold under a brand name, so if nothing else they might have some harm reduction value in being frighteningly incohesive.

Someone who wants to try a mystery powder labelled as Synthacaine or whatever else can get online and see endless reports like this:

So I took this stuff which made me feel weird,
it was kind of like that pink stuff which was going around recently,
but not as pushy as the blue stuff,
I definitely noticed some stimulation and a desire to take a shit,
and my ears felt numb like they did on the green stuff,
had a worse comedown than anything else,
was puking and scratching myself because of all the bugs I could see crawling around on my body,
so yeah lol definitely better to just stick to real drugs,
like the ones you can buy on the street in little unlabeled bags,
from someone who doesn't know about the ingredients
 
ive been secretly enjoying synthacaine for a while now, i started to like it, regularly, friends compared it to the real thing,

only the inevitable happend.

another order, same source, different substance, same name.

appearance of white four = the same, only without the faux rocks

more painful to snort (remember i have no septum so i am very sensitive)

effect, unbelievably weak. its either been bashed to bits or its not the same thing. zero effect after maybe 2g in short period of time, is less effective then dimithocain and i hate that
 
In reply to "why would anyone buy this when plenty coke about" for me the illegal market is ...well illegal. ..and unbelievably less moral then rc scene...also the price.

The last couple weeks this has changed from a rocky substance with odd blue speck to far weaker fine white powder that has shorter duration but not as good.
 
Go easy on the 'legal' highs.

Taking an unknown substance on a regular basis just asks for a... well.... who the fuck knows.

The way you describe the product continually changing certainly doesn't appeal to me.
 
obviously its a shitty compound and although I understand the reason for the bluelight rule for not discussing unknown or branded products, given that since that rule was invented, the RC scene has grown and changed (with branding being used to hide sale of illegal substances and get around law creation) and that bluelight exists for harm reduction, some discussion should be allowed in the name of harm reduction in cases like this where a branded RC has started appearing on a lot of sites, if only for the following information;

consistency
effects
potency
risks
variations

etc.

there is no need for a mega thread, but for the protection of vulnerable people who would otherwise not have access to information from a trusted impartial resource like BL. maybe time for a rule change.
 
Gogaine, syntha are all total crap dont waste your money on em. Buy the stim powders pure not this randomly mixed shit in some cunts backyard
 
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