The original "tan MDPV" doesn't exist anymore unless someone stashed a bunch of it.. But the "tan PV" that's going around now is not the same.
This compound is also known as desmethyl pyrovalerone, O-2387.
Specs (units in nM, from Meltzer et al. Journal of Medicinal Chemistry, 2006, Vol. 49, No. 4)
DAT Ki: 33.7 +/- 5.4
DAT EC50: 52.3 +/- 6.2
D.R. 1.55
SERT Ki/EC50: > 10uM
NET Ki: 199 +/- 45
NET EC50: 56.0 +/- 13
Should be a worthwhile stimulant. Comedown is probably nicer than MDPV.
it is totally normal to feel tired after mainlining this chemical as well as other mdpv replacements. They are just garbage. I have Pentylone and I know this is not the chemical on topic but everyonessaying its so great and it di very little. I think all of you pv feens should look into appp if u still want to go down that route but Im not to in the know as I never did mdpvOk, sorry for the delay. I used a-pvp throughout the weekend using different routes of administration. This will probably be moved over to Trip Reports or whatever. Here is my report:
Male, 185lbs
History: Experience with all types of stimulants, opiates, psychedelics, and benzos. Been using since 16, now 27 years old.
Ok so I have used MDPV multiple times. My view on MDPV was it was not worth it. The high was indeed euphoric and very speedy but very short lived and the come down was one of the most god awful come downs I've ever had. I tried dosing various ways too. I would do a line and then wait a full hour or more for it to completely wear off before doing another. I also had nights where I would redose every half hour or so. I tried it orally (which had the least terrible come down) but all in all the come down was not worth the very short lived high for me. Ok onto a-pvp:
Friday:
10:30pm - I had a belly full of food and 2 beers in me. Eye balled a small dose (around 5-10mgs).
10:35pm - Notice slight stimulation but nothing crazy
10:40pm - Slightly more stimulated than 5 mins prior but no euphoria. I decide to wait this out 20 mins before redosing.
11:00pm - Eye ball a bigger dose.. I tried to double the first dose. Up the nose it goes
11:10pm - Ok it's kicked in and it is stimulating but not euphoric at all. I'm already convinced this shit sucks and decided to slam some dope.
11:20pm - Dope slammed in bloodstream.. instantly a happier person
11:25pm - Decide to blow another bump of a-pvp thinking maybe mixing with the opiate it will feel good
11:35pm - Feeling stimulated again from the bump of a-pvp but no increase in euphoria or feeling good. I decide to consume booze. Whisky and beer the rest of the night.
From this point on I was bumping the a-pvp throughout the rest of the night. I took some pretty larger bumps and felt awake but it wasn't pleasant at all. Now I realize I mixed it with opiates and booze (and later in the night weed) but it still feel like I can get a pretty good sense of what this is all about. Wasn't impressed.. BUT I gave it another chance all by itself the next day. Read below:
Saturday:
Decide to give it a shot by itself. I was home this night so I had my scale with me. I Starting at around 9pm (i had no other substances in my body at the time) and I ingested a accurately weighed out dose of 10mgs using my scale. After about 10 mins I felt some stimulation but again no euphoria and no good feelings whatsoever. Even caffiene puts me in a better mood.
After 20 mins I do another bump of 12mgs.. same as before
After 20 mins I do yet another bump of 15mgs.. same as before
At this point I'm convinced this stuff is not that great. MDPV gave me a way better high at least. I didn't notice as much gurning with a-pvp though and my jaw was more forgiving the next day but there was some. This is when I decided to do something VERY STUPID which is very unlike me. I don't know what got into me but I decided to shoot the a-pvp. Here is what happened:
At like 11pm after countless disappointments from bumping the a-pvp I decide I would like a shot of dope. I cook up my gear and add exactly 6mgs of a-pvp to the shot. It dissolves instantly. I load up the syringe and let it loose into my bloodstream. I get my usual rush from the opiate but did notice another feeling which I couldn't relate to coming in at the same time.. but it wasn't in your face. Kind of subtle. I thought that maybe i gave myself too small a dose but I had no desire to do more. In fact i was content being high on my dope and threw the a-pvp away right there...
... now I go downstairs to hang with my buddies and load up some hash into the bong. Me and one of my friends go out on my porch and just sit and talk. I'm about to hit the bong while he smokes a cigar and drinks. All the sudden I started to feel weird. My ears got REALLY warm and my head didn't feel all that great. Can't explain it but i felt messy and foggy in my head. This was before I hit the bong. I ignore it and just try to stay calm. It isn't unbearable or terribly uncomfortable but just kind of different. I hit the bong. I take one large hit of this delicious hash and I'm almost instantly stoned as hell! Now, I start to nod big time. It was sooo weird cause I never nod off of the amount of dope I took but the a-pvp mixed with that bong hit for some reason just made me start to nod like a cunt.
Now I am fighting the nod but I feel REALLY REALLY tired. It is bizarre because I have a stimulant in me that i just mainlined and I'm feeling tired??? Well this went on for like an hour (i didn't dare hit the bong again). After an hour that hard nod started to fade away and I was awake again. After a few hours everyone left and I continued to stay awake by myself on my computer for another 3 hours because of residual stimulation. Woke up the next morning feeling kind of hungover and shitty but nothing terrible. Like it was an unpleasant morning but nothing compared to MDPV or even MDMA the next day.
So in my opinion, all in all a-pvp isn't good at all. I know that it wasn't fair for me to mix it with dope, booze, and weed but I did try a few doses on it's own and it was generally the same as when mixed. I experienced no euphoria and the stimulation was not like regular amphetamine where I feel like I can work and get shit done. This gave me a weird foggy, confused, hazy feeling which is hard to explain. It did not seem functional to me. Oh well.. let me know if you have any questions.