splenda
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I've actually sampled ethylphenidate (years ago) and it was quite a bit nicer than methylphenidate. I tried snorting (mild but nice) & smoking the freebase. I don't really like stimulants so much, but smoked it was similar to cocaine (but lasted 40 minutes, unlike crack) but less intense. I preferred it to crack, in fact, but as I say, I'm not a fan.
It's probably pretty safe (with it's low potency) but it's nothing to write home about. I know of one highly shady cocaine dealer who seriously wants to cut it into crack. What a fool...
I seem to remember that 'real' nopaine is the 4-(3,4 dichloro)phenyl-piperidine based. One paper said that replacing the ester with a propyl made the (+)trans isomer gave a Dopamine Ki of 3.4 - but that means nothing without behavioral studies and there aren't any (plus the synthetic route was a real hike!).
Is this nopaine (aka L-Threo Ethylphenidate, an isomer of ethylphenidate?) simply the levoratory form of ethylphenidate (instead of racemic)? If so, is L-ethylphenidate more potent in terms of DAT/NET Ki values than D-ethylphenidate (and is this why nopaine was marketed towards the RC market)???