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oxycontin 80mg

Oxys are popular in both the states and Australia

however in the states Oxys are much more expensive then heroin

what do yall pay for heroin out in Oz? (retorical ?)

Without discussing prices. One oxy 80mg costs here between 10-30 cheeseburgers where as a gram of h would cost 200-400 cheeseburgers. So u see the difference altho nowdays oxys have gone up to atleast 40 cheeseburgers :S Welcome to Australia's pricing.
 
Thanks for pointing that out Sust. Now that we don't have the price thread this is going to be happening a lot more.

The worst part is that cheeseburgers vary in price from one one store to the next due to location.
 
Ahhh ha ha ha ha sust... always with the macdonalds mate! haha..

400 cheeseburgers haha... i can just imagine rocking up to your dudes house with like 200-400 cheeseburgers


Forgot my next part...
 
You know I just was reading an article on oxcontin becoming the drug of choice in Australia.
And is now one of the most readily available drugs.

I found it interesting becauase in the last couple of weeks I've had a couple of mates get there hands on it.

The article wasn't a bad read either but it seems to have vanished into thin air =(

However in the article it was very clear on not mixing with valium and alcohol as people have died this way and others have ended up in a coma.
But it's pretty safe provided you're not stupid with it, it is quite addictive though don't get stuck into it too often and you should be sweet. ^.^

Party safe.
 
The hidden epidemic of prescription drugs

By Matt Carney for Four Corners

Experts fear Australia faces a new drug epidemic, and the source is not the warlords of Afghanistan or bikie gangs, but your local doctor or chemist.

Prescription opioids are fast replacing heroin, cocaine and ice as the drug of choice in the illicit markets.

On the streets of Kings Cross, users are injecting them at nearly twice the rate of heroin.

"It's the hidden heroin. It's pure heroin in a pill," said one addict.

But it is in the towns and suburbs where prescription opioids are silently taking a hold and having the greatest impact.

Everyday people who are being prescribed opioid pills such as Oxycontin, MS Contin and OxyNorm are becoming hooked, and a whole new generation of addicts is being created.

Ruth Arrigo's story is typical. She was a busy mother raising two sons, and her problems started when she strained her back working in a supermarket.

Her pain persisted and nothing seemed to help until her doctor prescribed OxyNorm.

She did not know much about the drugs but soon she had a raging habit.

"It's actually like being an addict of anything, whether it's heroin or gambling or alcohol, you look for it all the time," she said.

Ruth's addiction began to destroy her life and family, and she took an overdose of OxyNorm to end her life.

"I never want to go back there, and what you go through it's horrible," she said.

"You do get to the stage where you want to end your life because it gets on top of you."

Ms Arrigo got help and now her life is back on track, but many other Australians are not so lucky.

Sydney University's Professor Nick Lintzeris says there could be as many as 100,000 people who are addicted to the powerful painkillers.

Addiction specialist Professor Jon Currie says the problem is that GPs do not have the time or the skills to treat chronic pain properly.

"A tablet will fix everything is not the answer," said Professor Currie, who has started a campaign to educate GPs about the dangers of prescription opioids.

"The answer is to talk to the person and see what would be best for them, and often it's not a tablet and particularly not Oxycontin."

Prescription opioids are also taking a hold among recreational users, and often with fatal consequences.

Just over two weeks ago, Oxycontin took another casualty - Neumann Friar, 37, who went on a week's holiday to visit his girlfriend in Surfers Paradise.

The father of two made the fatal mistake of combining alcohol, valium and Oxycontin and died of an overdose.

His grieving parents, Richard and Wendy Friar, want some answers.

They believe Neumann had no idea how potent Oxycontin is and they want to know why it was so easy for their son to get the drugs.

"I know that Neumann would not be dead if he didn't get these tablets, and the reason he's dead is that in an opportunistic way he was able to find a doctor who wrote him a prescription," Mrs Friar said.

Health professionals say there is a solution - real-time monitoring of opioid prescription.

At the moment users can doctor shop, meaning they can go to different doctors to obtain several scripts and get the pills from chemists with no-one being the wiser.

Kos Sclavos, head of the Pharmacy Guild of Australia, says real-time monitoring will alert both doctors and pharmacists to potential misuse and abuse of the powerful medications.

"We're probably talking about hundreds of Australians perhaps losing their life to misuse of these products, when something could have been done to avoid this," he said.

Experts warn that unless a detailed response is developed soon, this potential drug epidemic may not be stopped.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/27/3022347.htm
 
Oh boy, another epidemic!

And sounds like old mate just got a hold of a script and wants to make some dosh-ma!
 
Fuck that article pisses me off, I am curious how in the fuck it is a doctors fault that Mr Friar fraudulently obtained various fucking sedatives then decided to combine them with alcohol in doses almost certainly above what the doctor reccomended. I understand they are obviously having a hard time but how could anyone with half a braincell think to blame anyone but the person who OD'd themself?

The whole article reeks of opiophobia and scaremongering and while there is often solutions aside from opioids to treat pain, the fact remains that opioids are a useful and often neccessary part of pain management.

It really shits me that they can discover OTC NSAIDS like double the risk of a stroke and nobody gives a fuck but one fella unfortunately pops it when experimenting with combining several CNS depressants and opiates are the devil.

I remember not long ago reading rates of morphine prescriptions in Darwin over a period of time and they had a sudden drop from 1999 I think it was where the next year prescriptions had halved, and they continued to practically half for a few years afterward. Maybe there was quite a high rate of doctor shopping at the time but I do have a hard time believing that they could cut prescriptions by that crazy amount and it not result in lots of people who would benefit from these drugs doing without.

The thing is, I feel bad for Neumann Friar, I really do, but not half as bad as I feel for those living in agony with chronic pain every day who can't get a script to hold them thanks to people like Neumann Friar and the media for printing shit like this. I feel worse for Neumann's family than I do for him, but ultimately common sense must prevail to say the only person truly responsible for his death is him. It is too bad information on HR isn't more widely provded, as it is quite possible if he was educated this would not have happened, but the information WAS freely available to him should he have chosen to seek it out.

I am not opposed to a doctor shopping monitoring system, although I really do question if it would be a waste of time, money and effort. I would expect most of those doctor shopping for opioids regularly supplement with heroin when they have to, so there is a good chance this would do nothing to curb overall drug use but drive property crimes up a little (heroin costs a lot more than filling a prescription).

Society REALLY needs to get over viewing a desire to get high as a moral issue because it isn't, it is pretty clear by now that exploring ones consciousness is a natural human curiosity which dates back thousands of years. I see it as a lot more important that those in pain get the treatment they need, and if a few people work the system to get high that is their business, their problem, and is probably better than them purchasing street heroin anyway.

IMO it says a lot that it is a bigger issue for a small amount of people to die getting high off their controlled medication than it is for a potentially large amount of people to die off a freely available medication just because the latter cannot provide users with a high.
 
^^Well said drug mentor

I watched the 4 corners story, and another family's grief was aired. Their son died through heavy oxy use (due to prescribing it along with antibiotics etc for his crushed leg) and blamed it on the doctor not knowing about his depression and asthma condition. To me that was more of a push to change policy so medical records on a database available to all GPs and hospitals hopefully eliminating the chance of miss-prescribing substances.
 
I just watched the 4corners report and came here to see what others are saying about it. If you missed it, you can watch it online here:

http://abc.net.au/4corners

(go to iView)

It is very similar to a US report from Current.tv, in fact the 4 corners report cites the US report.

It is a lot harder to get oxy prescribed in Aus. When I was in the US I walked into a doctors surgery, told him I used pain killers as needed in Australia, and walked out with a script (I am a legit user, though as needed). Back here it is a lot harder and they are more likely to give you lesser synthetic drugs. You can buy it on the street in the US in most major cities.

They will eventually implement a national register in AU, which will shut down all the doctor shopping.
 
^ I don't think medical records being on a database like that is neccessarily a good thing though, like I know that if all my medical records were available to any doctor I saw now it would make them treat me with a severe bias and imho it should be up to me if I want that shit disclosed.

Seriously if you are allergic to shit and don't tell a new doctor thats pretty stupid, I know shit can slip the mind but when your filling out the forms they give you on a first visit it is pretty hard to go over the allergies part and not remember shit imho.

I would be up for full disclosure in an ideal world where doctors, pharmacists and other health care professionals did not judge when certain things are made clear to them. I have had too many bad experiences being honest with doctors to think it is a good idea to make this mandatory.

The real problem is a lack of education about drugs being prescribed I reckon, but the ass backwards thing is the more you know about your meds or the meds you want the more distrust doctors and pharmacists will treat you with. I think it definately sucks that a lot of older and less educated people have been forced on to benzo's and/or opiates and got a severe addiction with no warning of what they were in for like many people I knows parents and grandparents, but that isn't a reason to be scared to prescribe them.

I am sure if any of these unfortunate people who died did their research they would of been infinitely less likely to OD. I don't understand why doctors shun their parents for being educated, I wonder if maybe they take it as an insult like if you do your own research you don't trust them? Whatever the reason it is certainly unproductive in my view.
 
^ I don't think medical records being on a database like that is neccessarily a good thing though,

If they do implement it, it would likely be at the pharmacy and would piggy-back on the existing pseudowatch network. There is no way they would ever pass a law that would allow doctors to share your private medical files between each other. That would be open to abuse, and Australia actually has very good and strict privacy laws when it comes to medical and other records.
 
You can buy it on the street in Australia as well.

Didn't know that but I figure it is possible. From what I have seen and know though the 'problem' with oxy is exponentially worse in the USA - it is just everywhere.

In vegas it has broken into being one of the popular party drugs. It was all coke, mdma powder and "o" (oxy) the last few times I was there. Crazy cheap oxy, as a lot of it is diverted from people with insurance, so they are paying a few dollars for it.

A lot of doctors also setup in Nevada, as did a lot of the online retailers. Apparently there are more prescriptions for painkillers in Nevada then there are residents. see:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jul/06/painful-truth-about-painkillers/
 
Re - medical records

I didn't take into account a personal prejudice amongst doctors and pharmacists etc, I just thought it was poor of the grief stricken mother to blame the doctor for not knowing about her son's asthma. Apologies for the knee jerk response. I appreciate your reply drug_mentor.

In relation to a patient knowing the ins and outs about chemicals over a doctor, it can be part of you showing them up and understanding more about the chemicals than they do. But instead of applauding your interest in wanting to know about 'the meds', they instead use their personal ideals and form opinions of you which colours their judgment.....despite your honest interest.

In Breecamb's utopia everyone would want to research and understand about what they consume and what effect it has on their body (whether it be mind altering substances or not)..... correct knowledge is power.
 
I have heard of these things before, but never tried them myself. What is the big deal with these things? I hear opiate users really love these and pay alot for them?

What is the big deal of oxycontin 80mg, and are they that popular within the heroin community?

Oxycodone is like 1.5 x more powerful then heroin. The BIG deal with these things is the fact that they are pharmaceutical heroin, more or less, and have killed and will continue to kill many a stupid moron on Earth who combines such a large dosage of Oxycodone usually mixed with another depressant say Baclofen/benzodiazepines and Alcohol. The media's attention is on these prescription tablets, is overwhelming.

Yes, they are popular within the junkie scene.

One tablet of 80 mg OxyContin can fetch upwards of [many] Bazingas in the junkie scene.

I for myself have never tried oxycodone nor to I intend on doing so.

Take it easy bud, and look after yourself!!
 
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This will all get deleted but you gotta remember, the person who gets the script probably isn't the one selling them for that much.
 
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