Ok--- so here is my current experiment status' so far.
1.) Milling / Grinding OP 80 - I have found the best way to crush OP80 with the use of a foot file / nail file. Hoseclamp did not work good. Using the file, I was able to get it to a powder around 20% thicker than the old OC.
2.) Experiment 1: Fail - My first experiment was to mill the OP80 and I left it overnight in a mixture of apple cider vinegar and lemon juice. 8-9 hours later, I drank it and received minimal if any effects except a horrible case of acid stomach. I suspect all the acid may have killed the alkaloids or something, or just failed to extract it completely.
3.) Experiment 2: Fail - Grinding up and parachuting - despite milling these OPs down, they still retain substantial time release. I found this to be a failure and it released the oxy slowly over the course of many hours.
4.) M.L.K - I read that if you put M.L.K drops (a popular, common solvent) in a spoon to saturate some milled OP 80, then let it evaporate, it dissolves the plastic and leaves a snortable powder that does not Gel. Many people report success with this, but I did not. Perhaps I did not use enough M.L.K or let it dissolve for long enough.
I posted this in the other thread, but I find this information useful and suggest you all read it here in case u missed it:
From the Purdue website, here is a summary of the info I found:
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/08/slides/2008-4356s1-05-Purdue.pdf
Besides the obvious Simple, Medium, and Complex solvent thing that has everyone confused--- here is some information you guys should consider in ur investigations:
1.) At room temperature, using commonly found solvents, the best they could do was extracting 50% of the oxycodone for SHORT DURATION Shakign Extractions at room temperature.
2.) At room temperature with some less readily available solvents, extraction was as high as 70% during a "SHORT DURATION" shaking extraction at room temp.
3.) When we are dealing with EXTENDED extraction times at ROOM temperature--- some SIMPLE HOUSEHOLD solvents extracted up to 78% of the oxycodone! That might mean if we leave oxycodone soaked in acetone, M.E.K, or Ether for some time we can get almost 80% of the OC out. How long is an extended duration, I wonder? 1 hour, 2, hour, 4 hours-- shaking and stirring it. In the end, I woudl assume we would filter out the gunk, evaporate the solvent, and be left with pure oxycodone residue. The 22% or so that wasnt extracted would remain in the gunk we filter and we could eat them or something. There was one simple solvent they listed, however, that only got 2-9% out--- in otherwords destroying the alkaloid entirely. Not sure which one that is but maybe we can research solvents known to destroy oxycodone molecules. The Medium and Complex solvents all removed most of the oxycodone when leaving them at room temperature for extended periods of time.
4.) Extraction at elevtaed temperatures had adverse effects on the oxycodone so we can safely exclude that from our experiments and stick to room temperature experiments.
5.) Some further information regarding their methods of extracting oxycodone:
“During in vitrotesting, tablets were manipulated to recover oxycodone by crushing, milling, heating, and crushing followed by boiling and filtering fragments, and crushing followed by extracting with various solvents, including ethanol.The tablets either did not break or broke into fragments that retained some of the controlled-release characteristics.When in contact with aqueous media, the tablets or the fragments formed a gelatinous mass.”
PS. IF you look on their website, the picture of their CRUSHED OP looked like shit.... it was super chunky, and with a foot file I can get my OP WAY better than their picture. Perhaps they experimented on the OP while it was all chunk like the picture to prove to the FDA their new OP was soooo good. I'll bet if we file it down fine enough, we'll get better than the results they posted.