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Opioids O-Desmethyltramadol

You guys are extreme. I never binge, a one day enjoyable O-tram/tram buzz per week is enough. Done this for years, and never had any withdrawal problems whatsoever. I get bored/annoyed with the effects of the substance (especially the mind dullness part) if I take it several days at once. Also, I miss sex after a while.
 
PoppyLlama said:
man I fucking wish there was a US source for this so badly. I already got scammed once trying to order 10 grams. so everyone watch out!!!
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Damn that sounds like a solid chunk of cash you lost, sorry to hear that bro.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
I have only now just today returned back to something like full health/energy. The symptoms
Until now, I was fortunate enough as an adult to have an extremely robust immune system, ie, seldom even getting a fucking cold let alone the flu. But since bingeing on o-dt ive had the flu twice in ten days !
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Denial is a strong thing, buddy. Thats withdraw, but even after the acute withdraw is over you are still have a shot immune system during PAWS, up to a month after abrubtly stopping
 
Just got my 250mg sample today from a reliable source. I wasn't expecting much, considering its a metabolite of tramadol, but I must say o-dt deserves some attention. Prior to plugging 50mg, I had consumed 8 g of kratom and 2 mg of clonazepam, most of which had worn off. The 50 mg went up the hole effortlessly and felt i mild change in perception about 5-10 min after. It soon developed into a mild, yet blissful headspace (limbs feel light, aches are gone, mood lifted ect.). Yearning for more I topped it off with 6 g of kratom and 1mg of klonopin. This seemed to really give it that extra push it needed. The kratom played along nicely with the o-dt, compensating for some of the missing NRI properties of tramadol. All this, along with klonopin was zen-like. I highly recommend this combo for people trying to conserve their O-dt.
 
spoodle said:
Denial is a strong thing, buddy. Thats withdraw, but even after the acute withdraw is over you are still have a shot immune system during PAWS, up to a month after abrubtly stopping
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Honestly, it wasnt a case of denial. I was new to the whole thing, so genuinely couldnt tell the difference. Things have changed very quickly though. I've been stop starting o-dt for a few months now though, so withdrawl symptoms have become all too familiar and recognisable to me now.

As i currently have no source of new supplies, i have decided to go on an extended run with my remaining supplies until they are all used up. This is rather than having to go through withdrawl several times I'm just keeping going on one extended binge until its all gone. I expect its going to be one hard crash at the end now. Still its not going to kill me eh ? I am going to be as organised as possible, and have done some careful calculations of how long my supplies will last @ current dosing, and have booked plenty of time off work at the required time to get through it. I have plenty of etizolam, pregabalin, stimulants, booze, recorded TV programs, films, cigarettes, pornography & chicken soup in stock !

I must also remember to do all the dish washing up before i run out. On one previous occasion when i was pretty ill with withdrawls i hadnt been keeping on top of "domestics" during that binge, and then when i was ill at the end of it, i had no energy whatsoever, and a kitchen chaotically piled full of dirty plates, dishes, pans, cuttlery etc....Nothing clean to eat from, and not much hope of sorting things out either in that state. What a fuckin disaster that was. No wonder i got a bad case of the shits on top of everything else !!
 
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Well after a month long run of daily use of o-dt (topping out @ around 500 mg a day) i had to stop, as supplies had run out.

I have no idea why but i got off very lightly as far as WDs are concerened as it was no where near as bad as i expected. Day 1 was long and miserable as hell alright; had no energy, couldnt do much other than lie on the couch in misery. Chills + aches. Was trying PV to give me some energy but that wasnt working, so switched to etizolam which raised my mood a lot and had a very long sleep. Day 2 felt 50 % better. Day 3 75 % better. Day 4 now and i feel fine, apart from still having liquid explosive shits..

I guess its for the best (for me atleast) that supplies have currently dried up. I wonder if good quality stock from a reliable supplier will ever become easily available again. It seems far from guarenteed. I really grew to love it. Probably too much. During this 'hiatus' i guess i should consider what my future usage should be, if it becomes available again. Ive seen how easy it is for things to get out of control, and how its very hard to stick to weekend only dosing, or something like that.
 
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damn, if i had known it would disappear like this, i would have bought more than a gram. Hope for it to resurface again :(
 
Having run out of o-desmethyltramadol, I am once more unable to keep my drinking in check. This drug was, I believe, actually helping me and now it's gone. Withdrawals were insignificant but living without it is a trial, psychologically.
 
Yeah i found the psychological part of running out difficult too. Wasnt well prepared for the very low moods that came and stayed for long periods during the first two weeks. After a couple of weeks though things were improving, and then when i found alternatives to switch to my mood has suddenly improved dramatically , even though i havent actually tried the new product ! I have since heard about this being described as a "sense of loss" and this exactly describes it.

I hope you get through it OK. Things should improve after a couple of weeks IME.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Yeah i found the psychological part of running out difficult too. Wasnt well prepared for the very low moods that came and stayed for long periods during the first two weeks. After a couple of weeks though things were improving, and then when i found alternatives to switch to my mood has suddenly improved dramatically , even though i havent actually tried the new product ! I have since heard about this being described as a "sense of loss" and this exactly describes it.

I hope you get through it OK. Things should improve after a couple of weeks IME.
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I'm sure I will. My stock running out just happened to take place at the worse time, i.e. when a close relative ended up in hospital and soon thereafter died. Followed by me doing the 1600 mile round trip drive to pick up my wheelchair-bound big brother, who has Multiple Sclerosis, for the funeral. I searched but could not find the silver lining on this cloud!
 
is this shit really worth the money? i've had just about everything opiate-wise (except oxy; GAAAHH!! really want to try that. and o-dt).
i've heard it's very similar to pethidine, but i haven't tried that either (never really been keen to) and i've heard mixed reviews. my DOC is dihydrocodeine because of it's slightly stimulating high and its "just right" level of how much euphoria and nodding you get from it. DHC is sooo much cheaper than o-dt too. i find a 300-360mg dose without tolerance to be just about the best high ever; smack, i find a bit too "smacky" for me.
Is it worth a one-off try? is it a great deal stronger than dhc?
 
axe battler said:
is this shit really worth the money?
Is it worth a one-off try?
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Yes !!!! and Oh Yes, IMO. I loved the stuff. But i have no experience of other opiates to compare it to.

What country do you live in ? If it's the UK then you'll be lucky to be able to aquire any atm anyway, as it seems all known sources have dried up, at least for the immediate future.....
 
Aye it trueley is, its up there with the big dogs in term of euphoria and sedation
IV's useless though, always use it orally.
 
Sublingual or parachuting? Ah, and what's a recommended 1st dose like? Thanks.
 
For best results, IMO:

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You might start at 50mg.
 
Ouhhh, never plugged anything, but...i'm thinking about it ;) 50mg, isn't that a bit too much? Any other suggestions?
 
Start with 5mg on night 1 and each night thereafter double the dose till you get to 40, then add 10 and get to 50mg!

You're right to be cautious, I would have no hesitation to dose you (after an allergy test) with 50mg of the batch I had, although I'd keep a basin handy in case you puked (unlikely at 50mg but possible.) But maybe my batch was weaker than yours, I've only ever tried one batch.

PS If you need to think about things before you plug, I find oral dosing superior to sniffing (others disagree but they're wrong I tell ya) and doses are about equal to plugging (so still 50mg). Just do it on a properly empty stomache or you could be waiting up to three hours for the effects to kick in, orally. Plugging, on an empty colon, = full effects guaranteed after 10 minutes. Which is always a good thing ;)
 
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BTW thanks for the advices on dosage and application form. Tried around 30-35mg both ways and it worked very nice, plugged even better, as you've said =D
 
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