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    I've taken diazepam at therapeutic doses (5mg, 10 at most). I still don't understand how people can get high on it. I mean orally. I've got some right now, am I promised a good high if I swallow, say 20mg? Should I drink a beer on it (I know I can't take much alcohol, but a beer won't kill me will it?). Is the high better than kratom or DXM (two other legal highs I don't rate very high)? I'm trying to understand what so many people find about this drug.
     

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    some people just don't get it...like myself. I enjoy some benzos but the high from some of them is very subtle. If you're getting relief from anxiety i think you enjoy them more.
     

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    you can get high off them its just a matter of dose, if you have somewhat a low tollerance try out 40mg and you should feel a buzz.
     

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    It makes me feel too "dopey". The anti-anxiety isn't worth the side effects, for me, anyways.
     

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    Nah man stick with the therapeutic dose .. those waters you speak of could drown you .. srsly it aint all that!
     

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    people who enjoy benzos must just enjoy being tired, because thats all they feel like to me.


    ok well actually no thats a lie, its more than tiredness, but for myself personally its still just a wierd fucked up state of consciousness. the only thing that makes it any better then being sober is the fact that...your not sober. i have never found it overly euphoric or anything really
     

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    it makes me feel relaxed, and because i am full of stress and tension the whole day the relief i get is the best feeling there is.
    Just sitting on the couch and feeling... well... relaxed... as opposed to every muscle being full of tension in your body and your toughts racing. It's a nice feeling to be relieved of all that every once in a while.
     

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    Very useful feedback, thanks all.

    It seems it's just a feeling relax state, not a real high. I think I'll pass on it then because a benzo addiction is a nasty thing (even if a legal one) and a benzo tolerance is something I don't need either.

    I don't feel that bad when sober, it's just I'm damned boooored !
     

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    i've gotten high from diazepam, it's the benzo that has gotten me the highest even though now it doesn't anymore whereas xanax still does. it used to give me these crazy highs where i felt like i was floating and thoughts seemed to be coming at me from all over the place plus music sounded awesome. but that didn't last long, i soon built a tolerance and it became just like any other benzo. in fact now i actually prefer other benzos.

    as for what i get off those if i try to get high, it's not an intense euphoria like an opiate high, it's more of a subtle feeling of bliss and relaxation (mind and body) coupled with a mild euphoria (which i only feel some of the time). xanax specifically feels a lot like the feeling you get from a few beers, that mood lift, coupled with the relaxation.

    basically i think if opiates are a 10 in terms of euphoria, benzos are a 2.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxl
    it's just I'm damned boooored !
    that is the worst reason to take anything, really...

    go out for a walk and make some friends
     

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    When I was benzo naive and new to benzos diazepam used to feel pretty good.
    It was very relaxing and chill - not too hard, but still noticeable (that was off of 20-35 mg of diazepam).

    Now though, I can take almost 200 mg and barely feel a half decent buzz.

    Diazepam is good when you don't have a tolerance, but if you've got a tolerance than it really isn't anything. If you have no or little tolerance start off with about 30 mg diazepam. A beer with that would be ok, but not more than one or two.

    Try some stronger anxiolytic like alprazolam (Xanax). Clonazepam is also a stronger anxiolytic than diazepam, but it has weak sedative and muscle-relaxant properties. Alprazolam has decent sedative properties (albeit, not as nice as the sedation from the hypnotics...but still). Bromazepam is a strong anxiolytic, like alprazolam and clonazepam, but it's sedative properties is somewhere in between alprazolam and clonazepam. It's not as sedating as alprazolam, but more sedating than clonazepam.

    1-2 mg of clonazepam (with little to no tolerance) would be good with a couple of beers or 1 or 2 shots of liquor, since it's not really that sedative and has weaker effects on the muscles and respiration.

    With Alprazolam, 2 mg to start WITHOUT any alcohol. If you want to drink a bit, take only 0.5-1 mg of alprazolam (with little to no tolerance) since it has good sedative effects (though the sedative effects are not like those of the hypnotics; alprazolam just makes you lazy and really tired).

    If you want to get really hardcore and want to feel a noticeable hypnotic effect and more euphoria, then try some of the hypnotic benzodiazepines. That would be benzos like triazolam (Halcion), temazepam (Restoril), nimetazepam (Ermin), nitrazepam (Mogadon), flunitrazepam (Rohypnol), lormetazepam (Loramet), midazolam (Dormicum), flurazepam (Dalmane), estazolam (ProSom), and flutoprazepam (Restas). These benzos are my favorites. I especially enjoy temazepam and nitrazepam. But if you are going to take anyone of these and you have no tolerance, take the smallest dose possible and do not drink with them. The hypnotics are designed to knock your ass out, and knock it out fast.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morphinator
    The hypnotics are designed to knock your ass out, and knock it out fast.

    ugh, i wish i had a box of those flying around somewhere, as i haven't been able to get any sleep lately and they work really well for that purpose
    Yeah, the hypnotics are awesome when it comes to stimulant crashes as well!
     

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    You can't really get high on diazepam, or other benzos I guess.
    It's just that for people with anxiety, benzo is worth gold.
    And the relief from anxiety benzos give, feels so good.
    It's good to be relaxed when plagued with anxiety.
     

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    I don't experience any sort of 'euphoria' from benzos or opioids and overall I don't actually enjoy them. Both can useful in certain situations, but that is therapeutic effect (like allaying panic), not 'enjoyment' per se. And even the therapeutic effect comes with the awful price of being tired and/or mentally sedated.

    When it comes to CNS depressants overall, I guess my feeling is: why get low when you can get high?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilosets
    You can't really get high on diazepam, or other benzos I guess.
    It's just that for people with anxiety, benzo is worth gold.
    And the relief from anxiety benzos give, feels so good.
    It's good to be relaxed when plagued with anxiety.
    yes, it can feel like the weight of the world was just taken off your shoulders. but i've also gotten high from benzos too, diazepam being really the only one though, where it made me feel like i was floating. it was an incredibly awesome feeling and no other benzo has done that for me and no amount of diazepam will do it for me anymore. but i'll never forget how awesome diazepam used to be.
     

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    I used to LOVE Diazepam but now, I can't really stand it. Every few weeks, I find myself buying about 20 of them though. I just don't have any balance at all when I am on them, I forget shit like crazy, and I always just fall asleep not expecting it. And when I wake up, I still feel fucked up, but not in a good way.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by burn out
    i've gotten high from diazepam, it's the benzo that has gotten me the highest even though now it doesn't anymore whereas xanax still does. it used to give me these crazy highs where i felt like i was floating and thoughts seemed to be coming at me from all over the place plus music sounded awesome. but that didn't last long, i soon built a tolerance and it became just like any other benzo. in fact now i actually prefer other benzos.
    perfect description of my experiances

    i really dont even take it that much anymore, even at higher doses i dont get nearly as buzzed as i did off of much less mg when i first started

    i still love Diazepam, just not as much as others, gives that nice high of well being
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by rave23
    it makes me feel relaxed, and because i am full of stress and tension the whole day the relief i get is the best feeling there is.
    Just sitting on the couch and feeling... well... relaxed... as opposed to every muscle being full of tension in your body and your toughts racing. It's a nice feeling to be relieved of all that every once in a while.
    This well worded typee-typing nails it for me too.
    When the whole day consists of worry and stress it's a comforting retreat. Tells my head to shush and my body to go "oooh". Also helps a muscle in my knee from hurting so badly... which I still don't fully know the cause of.
     

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    To the OP, I too had the exact question in my mind when I tried benzos for the first couple of times (by the time I tried benzos I had already tried opiates and opioids). I tried my first few times alprazolam, diazepam and lorazepam. Diazepam was ok in small doses but higher doses made me go to sleep and made me feel like you described.
    Alprazolam 0.5mg was like a hammer to my head and I would be completly disoriented, stumbling around and slurring my speach worse than with alcohol and not even being aware that I was that badly affected; a lot of confusion so much that I always ended up thinking the best idea was to sleep it off. Also I couldn't wait until the effects were over.
    Lorazepam was interesting because it gave me the most intesnse psychedelic (rather than deleriant) experiences of my life especially when combined with weed. IMPORTANT to tell you that at this time my weed tolerence was also VERY small and 1-2 big hits would have me laughing for 3 hours good. However without the weed it was only slightly hallucinogenic and it was more of a relaxant, though a weaker one so I didn't mind it much.

    I too, didn't find the 'magic' in the benzodiazepines and I had the most popular benzos too so to say the least I was dissapointed and could never understand how someone could say these drugs are recreational much less people who get addicted to these "non-recreational drugs", is what I was thinking.

    Then I tried a 10mg or a 15mg (it was so long ago I can't remeber) of Temazepam and everything changed for me. It was almost like an opiate, I was so extremily comfortable. I didn't think too much of the experience and left it at that.

    4-6 years later a good friend like a brother died and I was devastated, I stopped school for a semester, I drank, did a lot of opiates/opioids and eventually ended up like shit having to go in less than 2 months to the methadone clinic (went on 205mg a day too to give you an idea of my use) and my psychiatrist diagnosed me with general anxiety, panick attacks and depression. I didn't take anything for the depression (I refused to take the SSRIs and those type of medications), but for the anxiety I got 2-2mg clonazepams a day and for the first 2 months of teatment 2-0.5mg alprazolam for panick attacks.

    Now the alprazolams felt almost the same as they always did and I didn't find them very euphoric or 'good' in any way. But the clonazepam was much better and by itself I would feel euphoric even since it wasn't as strong as alprazolam or diazepam, it was much smoother and longer lasting. I would often take it with methadone and it was so much better (the high), where as with alprazolam when taking it with methadone or any opiate/opioid for that matter it would literally ruin the high, making me too confused and only want to go to sleep it off (also pissing me off for wasting and ruining my oxy high or methadone high). Still nothing like temazepam, it was the closest benzo that touched the euphoria and the smoothness of temazepam.

    BTW, I am and was always an opiate/opioid druggy, and opiates/opioids were always my drugs of choice. I found out many times that many benzos would ruin the high when combined with opiates/opioids. I would take benzos like xanax sometimes when I was low on opiates, otherwise I wouldn't take it and even then I would take a 0.5mg in halfs just to potentate opiates. But I found that clonazepam (due to the nature of its effects) goes the best with opiates, and I would always preffered if I had clonazepam to take it with my opiates.


    MY ADVICE: I say you should find a benzo that is best for you. If you are looking for EUPHOIRA from benzos, the only benzos that are guarenteed to give you euphoria are: Temazepam (#1) and Nitrazepam (#2) which I have tried and know for sure. Even though other benzos like clonazepam are potentially euphoric, they are mostly euphoric when you actually suffer from anxiety and/or panick attachs OR if you take opiates which are very synergesic (much more so than cannabis is with benzos). The hypnotic benzos are also the most euphoric benzos.

    As well most people use benozs to potentate their opiates/opioids, in small doses along with they usual doses of opiates or opioids. Diazepam is one of the more 'euphoric' benzos of the non-hypnotic benzos, though clonazepam is very different from diazepam. I would have to say that the real deal with benzos is in combination with opiates/opioids (taking benzos in small doses, along with their regular opiate/opioid doses), otherwise by themselves they are most euphoric when you #1 Find the right benzo for what you like in downers, #2 You suffer from anixety and/or panick attacks.

    If you've had barbiturates like phenobarbital if your in N.A. or others like amo-barbital if you are in Europe than you can compare/apperciate the effects of benzos much better.

    If the only concept of 'DOWNERS' that you have is that of opiates/opioids, you will be sadly dissapointed. But if you know that even in barbiturates there are so-so barbs, ok barbs, shitty barbs, and really good barbs, ofcourse though all these rating varying from person to person. I personally don't find phenobarbital euphoric, I do find it a better drug as a muscle relaxer than other drugs I can take as a muscle relaxant (Soma is illegal/not made anymore in Canada), so from that aspect I find it good, but I'm not crazy about it. Amo-barbital feels much, much better and it is euphoric even and a better feeling overall. If you have any experience with barbs, other non-benzo downers (Ambien, Imovane) you can compare the effects between these downers and see the special and unique effects in each of these drugs from each of these drug families.
     

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    diazepam is the most euphoric benzo IMO
     

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    ^^^ not like you're just gonna get Temaz after complaining about Insomnia
    for some things you just have to be smart on how to get them! Ever seen "No country for old men" ?
    Not that i encourage these things whatsoever! Be nice!
     

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    I haven't tried any of the hypnotic benzos, but the others I have.

    I take 2 x 5mg of diazepam for my general anxiety. Knowing that, 20-30mg will give me a really good buzz with a little euphoria. Xanax is nice cause it hits fast and hard, but wears off quick (so best to take before sleep). Klonopin is somewhere between, I find it similar to diazepam. Ativan I have never really gotten anything out of.

    If you are expecting a high like a good oxy or hydro high, then look elsewhere. If you want to relax and have all your worries melt away, benzos might be your thing. Good with a drink or 2 and a smoke. If you don't like the buzz off a few beers, then benzos might not be your thing either.
     

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    yeah... My girl took 30 mgs Valium once and she just said it knocked her the fuck out, she can't understand why everybody is so keen about it.

    I guess it's not for everybody. Most benzos i found are a good "tool-drug". Nice to mix or use in connection with other drugs. Hell, no night of ecstasy without a benzo for the comedown.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by rave23
    ^^^ not like you're just gonna get Temaz after complaining about Insomnia
    for some things you just have to be smart on how to get them! Ever seen "No country for old men" ?
    Not that i encourage these things whatsoever! Be nice!

    Hoe does he get the pills in that film then
    ?
     

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    no, he blows up a car in front of a pharmacy and uses the confusion to steal/rob the medicine from the pharmacy when everybody is like "wtf is going on". Pretty cool i thought, steals stuff to take a bullet out of his thigh.

    Like i said, don't even think about it
     

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