N&PD Moderators: Skorpio | thegreenhand
adder so you mean that 3mmc would be less speedy? maybe similar to methylone?
yes morishness is right, something like addiction but while using the substance..
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=morish
(dont know from where it comes from but it's a useful word)
I wonder why da hell has no beta methoxy analogue ever appeared in the designer drug market.
The peak with 133u is the ethylbenzoylcation showing that there was a ethylgroup on the ring so it is very likely that it was indeed 4-EMC the other peak at 103u also supports this thesis because of ethyl fragmentation and formation of the benzoylcation (so 3,4dmmc is also very unlikely)
What I cannot explain is the shoulder on the gc spectra, fragmentation results are very similar:
Im not a master at reading MS fragmentations so maybe I did a mistake? pls correct me if I got something wrong or if you have different interpretation for the data I obtained.
Come up with a super facile synthesis of beta-methoxy amphetamines and they could appear.
I know what and where this compound has. It's actually not that surprising for me it doesn't give any concrete speedy effects, 4-MEC should substitute for mephedrone better as it still has only methyl group at para position on phenyl ring and ethyl on amine. But I may be wrong, all these subjective opinions of meph-heads are really subjective if they could even find some similarity to MDMA and cocaine in mephedrone which is obviously total bullshit. I'm not into stimulants but I like MDMA and I did cocaine in the past. Nothing in this crazy series of substituted cathinones is ever going to be like a combo of MDMA and cocaine.
Anyway, whatever effects 4-EMC has on you, I wouldn't mix it either with ephedrine or methamphetamine (well, if it's so worthless, then why not methamphetamine alone logically? still it's not my advice as methamphetamine is a damned brainwasher).
absolutely not, 4-emc is shit in my opinion..
I'm not into stimulants but I like MDMA and I did cocaine in the past. Nothing in this crazy series of substituted cathinones is ever going to be like a combo of MDMA and cocaine.
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BTW: Christ, I can't really translate "morishness" into my language in one word... It means 'making urge to take more', right (more or less, you know what I mean, you want more after you're done)? I checked a lot of dictionaries and there is no entry for morishness. Where is it from? British, American, Canadian?
pofacedhoe said:have you tried mephedrone? if not then how can you be so sure what it felt like (or doesn't to be exact)